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bellycgb

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there may be trouble ahead...
« on: 21 July 2013, 01:50:33 pm »
The more i strip down the bike the worse it gets! :'(
what i need so far is:-
battery - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS-600-Fazer-2002-CT12B-4-CT12B-BS-Motobatt-Motorcycle-Battery-Upgrade-/280954519119?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item416a31be4f (not for £1000 though  :eek )
chain and sprockets - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-FZS600-FAZER-9803-DID-XRING-CHAIN-SPROCKET-KIT-/270978385558
new brake hoses all round
rear brake seals (hoping the pistons aren't shot)
rear brake pads
looks like the front calipers may need replacing as from what i can see all of the pistons are rusty
sprocket cover gasket
fork seals
oil and filter
coolant
air filter


god knows what else  :wall

bellycgb

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Re: there may be trouble ahead...
« Reply #1 on: 21 July 2013, 01:52:32 pm »
take a look

bellycgb

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« Reply #2 on: 21 July 2013, 01:54:59 pm »
by the looks of it the pistons are shot this is gonna be bloody expensive

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« Reply #3 on: 21 July 2013, 02:27:35 pm »
Yeah those pistons look stuffed.
I got rear caliper seals and pistons from
http://www.bitzforbikes.co.uk/Yamaha/FZS_600/Fazer_98_-_03/Caliper_Piston_and_Seal_Kits_
and they were fine.

Expensive job eh. Almost £180 to replace all your pistons & seals.
Anybody know why there are different kits for front left & right?

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« Reply #4 on: 21 July 2013, 03:30:42 pm »
Hi
   Ive not tried them myself yet but might be worth contacting this place for a price
 
http://www.powerhouseautomotive.co.uk/content/brake-caliper-service-sheffield-yorkshire.html
 
 

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« Reply #5 on: 21 July 2013, 03:32:36 pm »
IF YOU'RE interested in too semi used ones and your not too far away
you can have them free

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« Reply #6 on: 21 July 2013, 07:32:43 pm »
Don't bother buying new pistons for 180, I got both front calipers for 50 and a thou rear (better) for 50 from breakers. You might get some decentish pads with them and they could be serviced to bolt on. Another set of seals might cost you 50 but you'll have some spare calipers to preclean before your next stripdown and you might be able to sort the messed up pots out when you're on the road.

Everything else seems like servicing jobs that won't need doing for another few years. Stick with it and do as much as you can yourself, you'll learn more about your bike and it's very rewarding.

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« Reply #7 on: 21 July 2013, 07:37:04 pm »
IF YOU'RE interested in too semi used ones and your not too far away
you can have them free


wow thats very kind of you! i'm in bognor regis, west sussex. Where are you? i would quite happily pay for postage if distance is a problem?

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« Reply #8 on: 21 July 2013, 07:42:04 pm »
Don't bother buying new pistons for 180, I got both front calipers for 50 and a thou rear (better) for 50 from breakers. You might get some decentish pads with them and they could be serviced to bolt on. Another set of seals might cost you 50 but you'll have some spare calipers to preclean before your next stripdown and you might be able to sort the messed up pots out when you're on the road.

Everything else seems like servicing jobs that won't need doing for another few years. Stick with it and do as much as you can yourself, you'll learn more about your bike and it's very rewarding.


That is true i'm always up for doing stuff myself but never really worked on motorbikes. like you say i'm learning as i go and its a great feeling knowing you did it yourself :D

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« Reply #9 on: 21 July 2013, 07:50:24 pm »
Might be worth keeping an eye out for a cheap fazer on the bay.  If your parts are gonna cost £500 you could buy a complete bike on the bay and strip it to make your money back.

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« Reply #10 on: 21 July 2013, 09:45:01 pm »
Might be worth keeping an eye out for a cheap fazer on the bay.  If your parts are gonna cost £500 you could buy a complete bike on the bay and strip it to make your money back.


might be an idea, i'll keep an eye out. just stripped both front calipers and as expected the pistons are in a right state. rust and pitting on all of them, mild to very bad. how would i go about cleaning the calipers? as in what cleaner to use?

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« Reply #11 on: 21 July 2013, 10:10:49 pm »
Any sort of strong degreaser should be a good start. I tend to use Ultra Gunk which isn't too bad, but I've taken to using the Muc Off Chain Cleaner for most hard to tackle jobs as it seems to just eat through anything - use it at your own perile, this is not advice, it's just what I do. Can't say for sure if I should be using it so usual internet disclaimer...

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« Reply #12 on: 21 July 2013, 10:51:06 pm »
Hmm, think those calipers need more than just degreaser. I'm sure I've read of restoration jobs where such things were brought back to pretty new-ish standard. Sand/shot/bead blasting? (obviously with suitable precautions taken to protect fluid ways, piston bores etc?) Check classic bike type magazines and sites, they usually have such services advertised, might be worth it.
If you're going the 2nd hand calipers route, you might try Partfinder UK. They have a number of breakers on their books. You phone them with details of what you're looking for plus name and a contact no., which they pass on to these breakers, who then contact you if they've got what you want, and tell you condition and what they're asking. you just take the details if you're not sure and can call them back later once you decide - no obligations. Can't seem to find a web address for them, but phone no. is 09060 300123.

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« Reply #13 on: 21 July 2013, 11:51:18 pm »
Personally, i would take up yamy's offer of the second-hand calipers....then bin yours, i fear they are beyond servicing really.

G ; )

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« Reply #14 on: 22 July 2013, 12:08:21 am »
Yes, you're probably right - it'd be silly to turn down a couple of freebies when in need.

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« Reply #15 on: 22 July 2013, 07:41:11 am »
yep if they are still available i'll snap his hand off! gonna order chain, sprockets and battery today will also get a new front sprocket locking washer and uprated nut. At least then i can then get the bike running so i can do and oil and filter change etc

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« Reply #17 on: 22 July 2013, 08:53:05 am »
yep if they are still available i'll snap his hand off! gonna order chain, sprockets and battery today will also get a new front sprocket locking washer and uprated nut. At least then i can then get the bike running so i can do and oil and filter change etc

Even if you get the second hand ones from Yamy, don't throw your old ones out. Spares like that (albeit in bad condition) are still worth having around just in case. I got saved last week from having kept all my old rubber brake lines after I upgraded to braided hoses. The rear caliper fell off (don't ask) and completely destroyed the braided brake line 2 days before MOT time - needless to say I was very thankful for having the spare line around :)

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« Reply #19 on: 22 July 2013, 09:29:05 am »
I managed to get a Heavy Duty DID chain plus sprockets for about £95 on eBay :) I'll dig out the link if I can

Edit: Found it! It's actually gone up by a few pounds since I bought mine, but it's still sub £100

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190769843274?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

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« Reply #20 on: 22 July 2013, 05:35:22 pm »
I've just replaced the front brake hoses on my 99T with 23K on the clock with braided ones. You are welcome to the rubber ones if it'll help you out. There's nowt wrong with them, they stopped me fine.

Let me know.

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« Reply #21 on: 22 July 2013, 05:51:35 pm »
I've just replaced the front brake hoses on my 99T with 23K on the clock with braided ones. You are welcome to the rubber ones if it'll help you out. There's nowt wrong with them, they stopped me fine.

Let me know.


thank you for your kind offer, i might take you up on that :D i'm wondering if i actually need to change them, my bike has done 16,370 miles since new, they don't look perished in any way.

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« Reply #22 on: 22 July 2013, 07:15:32 pm »
Sorry my bad. When you posted you need hoses all round I assumed they were perished.

I may have a braided one that fits the rear. I'll have a look in my parts bin.

If I do the offer is there for a full working set FOC.

If they ain't perished I personally would bother just yet as you've got loads to do.

By the way I'd have a go cleaning them pistons up with wire wool and emery paper. New seals defo but I'd have go with those pistons.

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« Reply #23 on: 22 July 2013, 07:25:18 pm »
I brought a second hand calliper like that one about a year ago and spilt it and cleaned it up, new set of pads and a braided brake pipe, still working fine.

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« Reply #24 on: 22 July 2013, 08:39:57 pm »
Sorry my bad. When you posted you need hoses all round I assumed they were perished.

I may have a braided one that fits the rear. I'll have a look in my parts bin.

If I do the offer is there for a full working set FOC.

If they ain't perished I personally would bother just yet as you've got loads to do.

By the way I'd have a go cleaning them pistons up with wire wool and emery paper. New seals defo but I'd have go with those pistons.


i thought using any form of abrasive on a piston was a no no?