How do I make my 600 fazer faster?????

[samberking]

Hi All,
I think the above says it all. My bike is 100% standard and I was looking for some good ideas.
Ta Danny

[fazed600]

K&N air filter and an end can are the easiest starting points. Probably makes more noise than power though.

[richfzs]

I had a Scorpion can on for a while, I found I rode quicker when I went back to standard  whether that was cos the horses didn't like the can, or I just didnt like the extra noise so wasn't so aggressive with the throttle, I'm not sure!

[craigybee404]

U could find out how the thundercat moter was down tuned for fazer and retune it back up

[wraith600]

how much do you want to spend 




http://fazerowners.yuku.com/topic/32785/my-600#.TrGnakMkDdx    [link to old site ]


http://s1124.photobucket.com/albums/l568/wraith600/#!cpZZ1QQtppZZ32



http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,484.0.html

[solorider]

U could find out how the thundercat moter was down tuned for fazer and retune it back up

there are not many parts on the 600 fazer that is the same as the thundercat,the crankcases,pistons,cylinder head,cams,cam chain,crank shaft,cam shaft cover and con rods are all unique to the fazer,the clutch is the same as is the piston rings,basicaly the engine is unique to the fazer 600.

[Deefer666]

As mentioned the FZS is is not a thundercat engine, and a thundercat engine will not fit in a fazer frame (not without surgery anyway). If you wanna get more power from the fazer then a freer flowing air filter is a good start along with an end can. Then it  starts to get more indepth, A G-Pack ignition unit will increase the revs and power available in the lower gears. Altering the gearing via the sprocket will give you more acceloration but rob you of the top end. You could invest in some dyno time to set the bike up perfectly but you will only gain a few more BHP this way, then there is engine tuning (IE big bores, flowed heads, etc etc) but this will start costing serious wedge.

If you want more speed then sell the 600 and buy the 1000. I went down this route but found the 1000 didn't handle as well as the 600 so sold the 1000 and went back to the 600.

[Slaninar]

You will spend a lot of time and money and get some 10hp more at best. It is hardly noticeable. You could also change sprockets - that is a bit more noticeable I think, but the best thing to do is just get another bike. It will be cheaper and simpler.

Things to consider adding more power (and riding it for all it's worth!) are suspension and frame stiffness - both not up to the task of high speed riding on FZS. They are OK. Especially for a 95 hp engine, but for over 100 hp high speed - I'd just get a Thundercat, R6 or something like that. CBR600F or RR should be fine as well.

However, if you have enough time, money and like fiddling with a bike that works, KN air filter, DynoJet kit, Arrow/Scorpion/Akrapovic end can (or full exhaust tubes as well) will give you more hp. 
To tame it all and stay on the pavement, you will also need some better, stiffer, suspension. Wilbers monoshock and fork springs.
That should make a nice tuned Fazer.

Correct me if I got prices wrong:
KN filter around 70 euros
DynoJet kit       100 e
Arrow end can 350 e
Decent Wilbers mono shock 500 e
Wilbers springs  - no idea.

That's around 1000 euros. If you have money and time, you will be happy. Forget price soon and remember the ride forewer. However, if you want quicker sportier bike, selling FZS and getting another motorcycle is the best thing to do.

[kebab19]

TTS used to advertise a 660cc big bore kit for the T'cat, however they never answered my enquiry for costs etc a couple of years back and from memory only one person on the old messageboard had successfully fitted the larger pistons to their FZS600.

A real pity as a 10% capacity hike would have given a decent performance gain.....maybe if enough people pushed TTS for a group buy they might reconsider!

[samberking]

I would just like to say many thanks for all your comments. I will take them all on board.

[Major Rant]

How do I make my Fazer faster ??

Buy something that isn't a Fazer... 
 
Before my brain fully developed at the age of 25 I put a lot of effort and £££ into aftermarket cans, fairings, bigger carbs and even nitrobenzene in the fuel.
 
In the end none of it was worthwhile cos the engine and drive-train always broke in the end or wore out faster and it would have been cheaper to buy a bike that was designed to be faster in the first place.
 
Anyway, how is 135MPH and 0-60 in 4.2 seconds not fast enough?? Whenever I try to go faster than 120 the world scares me sh*tless (trouble staying on the right side of the road round bends and small animals run under my front tyre with near fatal consequences for both of us) and when I accelerate hard the rear end comes unstuck.

[samberking]

    I had 130 the other day and want more speed. Im so glad I sold my bandit for a fazer.

[Captain Haddock]

  I had 130 the other day and want more speed. Im so glad I sold my bandit for a fazer.

Hold the throttle a bit longer then and you'll get a bit more, mine is standard apart from a stainless downpipe and delkevic stubby can (without baffle fitted), checked the speedo last weekend with gps selotaped to the bars, clock said 150mph while gps said 140mph, mind you I'm only little so maybe a diet would be the first thing to try
As said before if you want more than 140mph a budget built 600 isn't realy the right choice of bike.
How often do you get a clear enough bit of dry road to realy go that fast anyway.

[Just Anne]

It's usually the rider not the bike that needs alterations. Not meaning to be rude at all but it's worth spending your money on something like this http://www.superbikeschool.co.uk  than adding bits to your bike.

Anne

[Fazerjon]

Does Mike from Spain who tunes the 1000 fazer do the same Ivans kit for the 600?
 
He came over and did my 1000 with another bike in my garage so he killed 2 birds with 1 stone. 

[kebab19]

Dont think the original FZS600 was released in the U.S., so no Ivans jet kit for it.

You could also change the sprockets for more acceleration, but then less top speed, more gear changes and poorer fuel economy. Or perhaps just redline what you already have....

[Fazerider]

There's always the nitrous option.

[Captain Haddock]

There's always the nitrous option.

Reminds me of photo seen on here recently...

[Skippernick]

ouch

[Fazerider]

To be fair, that wasn't caused by a nitrous kit, and a quick skim through NOSWizard's forum showed people have fitted kits to 600cc Bandits... a Fazer would probably be just as suitable.
Having said that, there's no way I'd risk it with my bike. I'd like it to last a while longer and am quite capable of scaring myself silly with a mere 90-odd horsepower anyway.

[samberking]

It's usually the rider not the bike that needs alterations. Not meaning to be rude at all but it's worth spending your money on something like this http://www.superbikeschool.co.uk  than adding bits to your bike.

Anne

LOL Ive been looking at things like this before. Your spot on there Anne. Have you done a course there before? If so whats it like?
Ta Danny

[kebab19]

Sounds to me like most people here want midrange performance improvement, and are happy with the 600's top speed?

[JoshVaughan]

Hi does anyone what i would have to get tuned or changed if i was to put high rise cams in it 

[Hedgetrimmer]

Simple answer to the original question - trade it for a gen 1 thou 
Seriously though, what gave you the idea to go for high lift cams? Curious.

[ChristoT]

Simple answer to the original question - trade it for a gen 1 thou 
Seriously though, what gave you the idea to go for high lift cams? Curious.

Out of curiosity - what would that actually do?