Author Topic: Brake pads (Read 20526 times)

Anarch · « **Reply #25 on:** 20 July 2013, 06:53:42 pm »

Quote from: darrsi on 20 July 2013, 05:37:54 pm

Got SBS ceramics on the rear which bite well, but too early for me to comment on longevity.

My Galfer pads on the front though are just ridiculously long lasting, they brake really well but i just can't understand how they aren't wearing at all, and they're not wearing the discs either?

And they're way under priced on Ebay, at just over half price http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Galfer-HH-Front-Brake-Pads-Yamaha-FZS600-FZS1000-Fazer-FZ6-FZ8-FZ1-/141014149710?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item20d5192a4e

There is something wrong with this listing - the compound they mentioned is for rear brakes, and those pads are double the price on their website.

Which galfer pads do you have - is it 1375 or 1370 ?

darrsi · « **Reply #26 on:** 20 July 2013, 07:13:19 pm »

I know they're double price, that's why i nearly bit their hand off when i saw them, but they are the same one's as i have.

They haven't had them on there for a while, they must have new stock.

Here's another place selling them http://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/60148

Anarch · « **Reply #27 on:** 20 July 2013, 08:04:22 pm »

You nearly convinced me - but still HH and semi-metallic ?
OK I've found some info about the pads:
http://www.galfer.eu/index.php/en/products-moto-eng/brake-pads

Btw how long did you have to bed them in ?

darrsi · « **Reply #28 on:** 20 July 2013, 08:43:25 pm »

What's wrong with that compound, i've had no issues at all?

The rear one's ate a new EBC Pro-Lite disc though, but i was using it a lot due to a front brake problem i had for months.

Didn't take long to bed in, i've had them on for months but they look like i put them on yesterday.

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #29 on:** 20 July 2013, 09:04:53 pm »

I've always found that a combination of sintered pads front, standard rear work well? Don't know about the 6s, but the thous can lock up the rear easily. 50 miles of careful use is usually enough for pads and new discs to bed in.

marksfazer · « **Reply #30 on:** 20 July 2013, 11:26:27 pm »

Fitted a set of SBS Sintered to the fronts today, will have to see how good they are. One thing has already improve and thats lever movement. The lever only move a small amount compared to my old pads.

I just went down the end of my road to make sure everything was good and when i got back into the garage i noticed the front wheel does not spin as easy as it did. There's a small amount of binding going on and assume they just need to bed in and hopefully this will free up with some miles??

darrsi · « **Reply #31 on:** 20 July 2013, 11:34:53 pm »

Quote from: marksfazer on 20 July 2013, 11:26:27 pm

Fitted a set of SBS Sintered to the fronts today, will have to see how good they are. One thing has already improve and thats lever movement. The lever only move a small amount compared to my old pads.

I just went down the end of my road to make sure everything was good and when i got back into the garage i noticed the front wheel does not spin as easy as it did. There's a small amount of binding going on and assume they just need to bed in and hopefully this will free up with some miles??

You'll get a tiny bit of binding just through the sheer width of new pads, as long as your calipers are functioning okay it'll free up after a while.

marksfazer · « **Reply #32 on:** 20 July 2013, 11:59:27 pm »

Quote from: darrsi on 20 July 2013, 11:34:53 pm

Quote from: marksfazer on 20 July 2013, 11:26:27 pm
Fitted a set of SBS Sintered to the fronts today, will have to see how good they are. One thing has already improve and thats lever movement. The lever only move a small amount compared to my old pads.

I just went down the end of my road to make sure everything was good and when i got back into the garage i noticed the front wheel does not spin as easy as it did. There's a small amount of binding going on and assume they just need to bed in and hopefully this will free up with some miles??

You'll get a tiny bit of binding just through the sheer width of new pads, as long as your calipers are functioning okay it'll free up after a while.

Coolio, thought it would, cheers darrsi.

BluprintZ · « **Reply #33 on:** 21 July 2013, 12:11:31 am »

Just checked out the ebay link Darssi but a bit confused as to whether the pads are a full set, ie: four pads for both discs, or just two pads, it doesn't seem to mention it.

Cheers.

G ; )

elbrownos · « **Reply #34 on:** 21 July 2013, 12:18:44 am »

Two pads. "Listing is for a set of pads for one brake caliper."

BluprintZ · « **Reply #35 on:** 21 July 2013, 11:22:50 am »

Cheers bud.

G ; )

Anarch · « **Reply #36 on:** 21 July 2013, 08:32:15 pm »

I might have some pistons for FZS 600 rear caliper - I remember buying some from wemoto, but in the end I went for FZS 1000's caliper (I wasn't able to get the pistons out from the old one in the first place).
Will check later and let you know

marksfazer · « **Reply #37 on:** 22 July 2013, 03:59:01 pm »

Bloody typical! Just brought and fitted some new pads for my bike and then found this>>
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_224422_langId_-1_categoryId_246903
Looks like Halfords are getting rid of some old stock. Going by the Ferodo website those pads should fit the fazer.>>>>>> http://www.ferodoracing.com/catalogue/search.php?search=motorcycle_vehicle&cat=brake_pads

For anyone else who needs pads.

Mark

darrsi · « **Reply #38 on:** 22 July 2013, 04:12:19 pm »

Quote from: marksfazer on 22 July 2013, 03:59:01 pm

Bloody typical! Just brought and fitted some new pads for my bike and then found this>>
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_224422_langId_-1_categoryId_246903
Looks like Halfords are getting rid of some old stock. Going by the Ferodo website those pads should fit the fazer.>>>>>> http://www.ferodoracing.com/catalogue/search.php?search=motorcycle_vehicle&cat=brake_pads

For anyone else who needs pads.

Mark

That certainly is a bargain but you have chosen a very good set of tried and tested pads for your bike, so don't be too disheartened

wezdavo · « **Reply #39 on:** 22 July 2013, 10:00:49 pm »

Quote from: marksfazer on 22 July 2013, 03:59:01 pm

Bloody typical! Just brought and fitted some new pads for my bike and then found this>>
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_224422_langId_-1_categoryId_246903
Looks like Halfords are getting rid of some old stock. Going by the Ferodo website those pads should fit the fazer.>>>>>> http://www.ferodoracing.com/catalogue/search.php?search=motorcycle_vehicle&cat=brake_pads

For anyone else who needs pads.

Mark

Thanks for that

just reserved a set to keep as spares

darrsi · « **Reply #40 on:** 23 July 2013, 01:02:48 am »

Let me think.......

elbrownos · « **Reply #41 on:** 23 July 2013, 06:36:44 pm »

Good find, I won't need new front pads for a while but I've reserved 2 pairs for when I do. They look reasonable.

Punkstig · « **Reply #42 on:** 23 July 2013, 07:04:47 pm »

Good find but just to. Let people know it appears to be for reserve and collect, if they don't have them anywhere local to you then tough!

These are the brake pads I've got on atm and used for track, they're more expensive than the platinum series they do, personally I prefer the platinum for road riding but these are good!

elbrownos · « **Reply #43 on:** 23 July 2013, 08:36:04 pm »

Another good deal on at Halfrauds at the moment - £10 oil
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchCmd?storeId=10001&catalogId=10151&langId=-1&action=discount&promotionCode=232174
Halfords 5W30 Fully Synthetic 4L (usually £34)
Halfords 5W40 Fully Synthetic 4L (usually £34)
Halfords 5W30 Semi Synthetic 4L (usually £24)
Halfords 10W40 Semi Synthetic 4L (usually £17)

Which of these would you put in the Fazer? I usually use Castrol GTX 10W40

darrsi · « **Reply #44 on:** 23 July 2013, 08:56:55 pm »

Quote from: elbrownos on 23 July 2013, 08:36:04 pm

Another good deal on at Halfrauds at the moment - £10 oil
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchCmd?storeId=10001&catalogId=10151&langId=-1&action=discount&promotionCode=232174
Halfords 5W30 Fully Synthetic 4L (usually £34)
Halfords 5W40 Fully Synthetic 4L (usually £34)
Halfords 5W30 Semi Synthetic 4L (usually £24)
Halfords 10W40 Semi Synthetic 4L (usually £17)

Which of these would you put in the Fazer? I usually use Castrol GTX 10W40

The only one that says 10w40

Anarch · « **Reply #45 on:** 27 July 2013, 09:53:19 pm »

Hi,
Can you guys hear the brake pads binding on the discs when you push the bike ?

Up to around 3 weeks ago I had OEM pads, replaced them with Nissin NS (they were rubbish), and three days ago I've put on SDS Street Excel - they brake quite well, but as soon as I've put them on the binding started - I can rotate the wheel without a problem, if I push it, it will stop after half a turn. I've checked, cleaned and put some rubber grease on the pistons - they seem to be fine, I was able to push all of them in with my fingers. I've also made sure that the master cylinder is not overfilled with brake fluid.

Is it normal for Sintered pads ?

Dead Eye · « **Reply #46 on:** 27 July 2013, 10:26:35 pm »

Since you've just put them on I'd suggest you need to wait for them to bed in properly with the discs which can take a while if you aren't aggressive with them

elbrownos · « **Reply #47 on:** 27 July 2013, 11:01:27 pm »

The dust seal is supposed to retract the piston slightly, so if your pistons aren't retracting I'd suspect the dust seals.

andybesy · « **Reply #48 on:** 28 July 2013, 12:08:08 am »

Hi Anarch,

After fitting my new SBS pads I had exactly the binding you described. Wheel would rotate by hand, but you could really hear the binding like a whoosing noise, and after a firm push the wheel would rotate only half a turn. Exactly as you describe.

Since it was the first time I'd fitted pads in ages I had em checked out at local Yam dealership and they said it was fine, binding wasn't too bad. They did do a little copper grease for me.

Mine have now freed up just fine, and it's since gone through an MOT with no advisories. With a bit of luck yours will be fine, but meanwhile take care in the wet!

Andy

Anarch · « **Reply #49 on:** 28 July 2013, 12:50:46 am »

Quote from: andybesy on 28 July 2013, 12:08:08 am

Hi Anarch,

After fitting my new SBS pads I had exactly the binding you described. Wheel would rotate by hand, but you could really hear the binding like a whoosing noise, and after a firm push the wheel would rotate only half a turn. Exactly as you describe.

Since it was the first time I'd fitted pads in ages I had em checked out at local Yam dealership and they said it was fine, binding wasn't too bad. They did do a little copper grease for me.

Mine have now freed up just fine, and it's since gone through an MOT with no advisories. With a bit of luck yours will be fine, but meanwhile take care in the wet!

Andy

You Sir are a Hero !

Thanks a lot

I was worried that my discs might melt in the middle of Alps