Author Topic: Engine Rebuild (Read 17691 times)

simonm · « **Reply #25 on:** 29 March 2013, 04:16:38 pm »

Omfg. It's worse than I thought.

Given the heat/rust I certainly wouldn't be mad keen on using much of the remainder

I take it that it's classified as a write off

Good luck with that.

Dead Eye · « **Reply #26 on:** 29 March 2013, 04:38:49 pm »

Well, I'm sure it would have been classified as a write-off if the insurance company had actually been told what happened...

And the rust is only on the surface due to being left outside, a bit of sandpaper and a lick of paint it the frame should look good as new ^^

Foxwood · « **Reply #27 on:** 29 March 2013, 06:18:48 pm »

Wow, you're in the long haul with this project. If I lived closer, I'd def like to help out, just as a learning experience.

All that wiring and cleaning will be a helluva job. The frame and swingarm do look pretty badly charred. $:\$

Chris · « **Reply #28 on:** 29 March 2013, 06:21:39 pm »

Wow, that is a mess. Hope you can at least salvage some of it even if you don't restore it.

All the best with it,

Chris

Dead Eye · « **Reply #29 on:** 29 March 2013, 06:28:22 pm »

Oh yeah its definitely a long term project. Worst case scenario I end up with a 24k refurbished engine to replace my existing 85k engine when it finally goes kaput. I'll keep you all updated as I go along and make progress, will probably focus on the block first and strip it completely. I will likely replace the timing chain and go over all the valves and selector forks in the gearbox plus anything else I think of along the way. Ideally it will be back to showroom condition and in excellent health

simonm · « **Reply #30 on:** 29 March 2013, 06:29:34 pm »

I don't understand?

Surely it will cost more to fix than buying a bike would? Buying a cat d write off, a fazer from a scrappy or whatever must be cheaper than buying the parts and the time you'll spend on it and if you did that the scrapper would be easier to get going than this one.

I guess I'm just a proper lazy ass.

simonm · « **Reply #31 on:** 29 March 2013, 06:31:20 pm »

A good opportunity to galvanise a frame or go for a bare lacquer look

Dead Eye · « **Reply #32 on:** 29 March 2013, 06:56:45 pm »

You are probably right in terms of cost - certainly for restoring the entire bike. But my money will reflect exactly what I am able to do. At the end of the day, this is a hobby and plenty of people stuff lots more money into seemingly crazy things by comparison for no return other than entertainment. At the end of this, I get a bike

If I end up just restoring the engine to replace my existing one then the costs are a lot lower I think than buying a new engine.

Chris · « **Reply #33 on:** 29 March 2013, 06:58:48 pm »

A very well made point Deadeye. You'll have a bike that you'll literally know inside out when you're done.

Chris

simonm · « **Reply #34 on:** 29 March 2013, 07:11:11 pm »

It's like batman, only different.

"some men just want to watch the world burn"

Aka

"some men just want to fix a burnt out bike"

dBfazer600 · « **Reply #35 on:** 29 March 2013, 07:13:11 pm »

Deadeye I is lost for words. Go for it mate and enjoy.

Daz

Dead Eye · « **Reply #36 on:** 29 March 2013, 07:20:30 pm »

Quote from: simonm on 29 March 2013, 07:11:11 pm

It's like batman, only different.

"some men just want to watch the world burn"

Aka

"some men just want to fix a burnt out bike"

Haha, I love it!

Thanks to you all for your support, I will no doubt be needing it as this project progresses as well as some advice and knowledge I imagine ^^

Thorn · « **Reply #37 on:** 29 March 2013, 07:45:05 pm »

Good luck with the rebuild, but jesus christ, what caused the fire in the first place?

Dead Eye · « **Reply #38 on:** 29 March 2013, 07:56:58 pm »

The short version is an electrical fire in a garage whilst doing maintenance...

Dead Eye · « **Reply #39 on:** 30 March 2013, 06:58:41 pm »

Got out in to the garage again today to do some fettling. Got the cams out and the head off, looking to remove the block next then see if I can get in to the gearbox. One of the main reasons for removing the head is that during my maintenance on it, I removed one of the spark plugs apparently and due to the fire and being left outside, huge amounts of crap managed to fall inside the chamber. Now that the head is off I can give it a proper cleaning out

Here are some photos for those who are interested

simonm · « **Reply #40 on:** 30 March 2013, 07:01:02 pm »

Quote from: Dead Eye on 30 March 2013, 06:58:41 pm

Got out in to the garage again today to do some fettling. Got the cams out and the head off, looking to remove the block next then see if I can get in to the gearbox. One of the main reasons for removing the head is that during my maintenance on it, I removed one of the spark plugs apparently and due to the fire and being left outside, huge amounts of crap managed to fall inside the chamber. Now that the head is off I can give it a proper cleaning out

Here are some photos for those who are interested

Thanks for the pics. That engine looks in great shape. I guess they are designed to run at high temperatures

Dead Eye · « **Reply #41 on:** 30 March 2013, 07:04:04 pm »

Yeah, the insides don't appear to be too bad bar cylinder 1

This engine has only done 24k which isn't too high in the grand scheme of things and it was running very well before. My current 85k engine is quite rough, especially in the lower rev range despite the carbs being balanced recently.

I'll keep on taking photos as I go as it should help me remember how to put everything back as well haha

Chris · « **Reply #42 on:** 30 March 2013, 07:06:00 pm »

Looking good man!

Keep the photos coming, very interesting already. Good to see how it's all put together!

Chris

dBfazer600 · « **Reply #43 on:** 30 March 2013, 07:14:37 pm »

I is surprised on how clean it looks inside. Keep the faith.

Daz

simonm · « **Reply #44 on:** 30 March 2013, 07:29:36 pm »

Next time you need to remember to take it apart in the kitchen on one of the best bed sheets

Dead Eye · « **Reply #45 on:** 30 March 2013, 07:38:33 pm »

Haha, nah I just bought some cheap dust sheets to throw down on the garage floor to protect it against spillages etc - there's a cotton twill one on top and a then a cotton / polythene one underneath which is water proof so it won't soak through

After all, this is still a rented property and I need to get round to de-greasing the garden patio before our next inspection... woops...

Edit: Oh btw, are the images a half decent size for everyone? I scale them down before hand from the originals but if larger versions are better than that can certainly be done

Exupnut · « **Reply #46 on:** 30 March 2013, 07:44:02 pm »

Pic size good. My u have been a busy bunny. No more dodgy chargers now ya roof is on hehe

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Chris · « **Reply #47 on:** 30 March 2013, 07:49:07 pm »

Pics are a good size mate,

Chris

Stedman8 · « **Reply #48 on:** 30 March 2013, 09:57:24 pm »

good luck dead-eye and if theres anything we can do to help you know where we are

Dead Eye · « **Reply #49 on:** 30 March 2013, 10:49:01 pm »

Much appreciated, thank you

So far so good, though ideally i could do with a proper copy of the Haynes manual instead of a digital one, but that's money I don't have right now ;p

The most interesting bit is going to be dealing with the valves potentially as quickly skimming the Haynes it said that special tools are required. Though at the moment I don't think I'll have to remove them at least