Author Topic: Older motorcyclists 'more likely to be injured' (Read 5281 times)

Robbie8666 · « **on:** 08 February 2013, 09:40:48 am »

just read this on BBC website

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-21350883

red98 · « **Reply #1 on:** 08 February 2013, 09:50:09 am »

so older bikers are buying the bigger bikes ..........dont know what there on about

DryRob · « **Reply #2 on:** 08 February 2013, 09:51:54 am »

"more likely to be injured" is that by total number in the same crash scenario?

It would have been nice to see some of the data they used for this conclusions

The type of bike could play a part too, smashing into a set of handlebars on a cruiser is going to be a lot more painful than flying over the set on a sports.

red98 · « **Reply #3 on:** 08 February 2013, 09:53:31 am »

sounds like a dig at the "born again brigade"

DryRob · « **Reply #4 on:** 08 February 2013, 09:58:02 am »

they didn't even mention the age groups, they could have been 17-20, 21-24, 25-28 ... 56-59 60+

adeejaysdelight · « **Reply #5 on:** 08 February 2013, 09:58:26 am »

It makes sence. The older you get, the less bouncy you are, reactions slow and eye sight worsens. On the flip side, older people are more cautious and less inclined to take an unnecessary risk (sometimes creating a new danger to others..?). I know this is going to provoke a reaction, but I would like to see a free driving/riding test for OAP's here in the UK. Sitting it every year, to ensure compitance and road awareness. If you fail, you get 3/6 months to re-sit and pass. If you fail again, that's it with the driving. Time to get the free bus!

richfzs · « **Reply #6 on:** 08 February 2013, 10:03:32 am »

Read this yesterday, and this sentence really pissed me off.

Data on motorbike size was not available to the researchers, but they suggested that older adults were more likely to buy bikes with larger engines - leading to more severe injuries.

Complete bullshit on the researchers part - we've got no numbers, so let's just make up a story, putting bikers in a bad light, because it makes us look good.

I don't have the numbers to hand, but I've got a feeling most ksi accidents happen on town, where the power of the machine is irrelevant (and are more likely to be small commuter machines), and are as a result of myopic cages anyway.

Fecking shoddy journalism /rant

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DryRob · « **Reply #7 on:** 08 February 2013, 10:08:57 am »

sounds like half arsed research to me. They must have used hospital records because it is very short sighted to not ask what bike someone was riding in motorcycle crash research.

adeejaysdelight · « **Reply #8 on:** 08 February 2013, 10:10:50 am »

Most KSI are men aged 40 - 49 on 600 - 1000cc sports bikes (in UK anyways). That is most, as in more than any other one group, not more than all other groups combined. More minor injurys happen in sub 126cc capacity with under 20's.

Andy FZS · « **Reply #9 on:** 08 February 2013, 10:19:03 am »

I seem to remember reading there are more 40+ motorcyclists than there are under 40. When I was younger I would have remembered where I'd read it......

Grahamm · « **Reply #10 on:** 08 February 2013, 10:22:45 am »

There is a good comment at the end of the article from Chris Hodder of the BMF that "There are plenty of post-test courses in the UK. If you are coming back to motorcycling it would be good to look out for refresher training. Those that ride regularly should keep their skills up".

I'm not so sure about the "bikes with bigger engines" argument, yes, they may buy bigger bikes, but it's the way that you ride that's important rather than just the engine size.

DryRob · « **Reply #11 on:** 08 February 2013, 10:27:49 am »

Considering it's written by a health reporter you'd hope she'd be more meticulous when writing a story considering the potential for the wrong interpretation to cause health scares.

richfzs · « **Reply #12 on:** 08 February 2013, 10:31:21 am »

Aye Rob, you'd hope so, but then motorcycles are dangerous, so let's just scare everyone anyway. No danger of nobody's on one, eh?

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Streetbudgie · « **Reply #13 on:** 08 February 2013, 01:10:05 pm »

I wonder how much this 'Research Group' got paid to write this complete drivel, I could have summed the whole thing up in one sentence - older people are more susceptible to injuries following slips, trips and falls or other kinds of impact accidents.

Shock horror - old person gets broken hip when younger person gets bruises from same accident

Old bones lose their ability to flex. Nothing more to it that that.

The capacity and style of the bike has sod all to do with it, slide off a moped at 30mph and hit a tree or slide off a GSXR1000 at 30 and hit a tree - same result - you hit a tree at 30mph - ouch for the youngster, time in hospital for an oldie.

That's why kids ride like they are indestructible - they think they are and they are to a degree, more so than the over 50s.

Tori · « **Reply #14 on:** 08 February 2013, 02:50:03 pm »

Older folks 3 times more likely to need hospital care after an accident. I can believe that. Throw a 50 year old down the stairs, throw a 2 year old. Kids are more resilient, older bones are not so. Though throwing either is probably not a great idea.

Older folks are probably less likely to ahve that accident in the first place. That's what's missing isn't it?

DryRob · « **Reply #15 on:** 08 February 2013, 04:27:49 pm »

Quote from: Tori on 08 February 2013, 02:50:03 pm

Older folks 3 times more likely to need hospital care after an accident. I can believe that. Throw a 50 year old down the stairs, throw a 2 year old. Kids are more resilient, older bones are not so. Though throwing either is probably not a great idea.

Older folks are probably less likely to ahve that accident in the first place. That's what's missing isn't it?

We'll never work it out from the BBC article, I found the research paper though:
http://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/early/2013/01/24/injuryprev-2012-040619.short?g=w_injuryprevention_ahead_tab

Poodyboy · « **Reply #16 on:** 08 February 2013, 04:40:58 pm »

'OF COURSE old people are more likely to be hurt riding motorbikes. Have you SEEN them in cars.

Plus, all that old people shaking stuff would play buggery with your counter steering.

popeye72 · « **Reply #17 on:** 08 February 2013, 04:46:35 pm »

Counter steering what is that again

JZS 600 · « **Reply #18 on:** 09 February 2013, 09:56:09 am »

plus some of the older bikers still think they are indestructible!

(having come off my bike in 2011 and fractured my hip, I've taken myself off that particular list)

caretaker · « **Reply #19 on:** 09 February 2013, 06:10:04 pm »

tori, i thought your comment "throw a 50 year old down the stairs" was a suggestion. now my wife's in hospital with a broken hip. you'll be hearing from my lawyers.

Tori · « **Reply #20 on:** 10 February 2013, 09:44:03 am »

And if you're an overweight car driver....

http://money.aol.co.uk/2013/01/22/fat-crash-victims-80-more-likely-to-die/?ncid=webmail4

Lol@Caretaker!!

red98 · « **Reply #21 on:** 10 February 2013, 09:58:32 am »

tori.....my 2yr old grandaughter is coming for sunday roast today,i`ll throw her down the stairs and see if your right

Tori · « **Reply #22 on:** 10 February 2013, 05:26:45 pm »

Do you have an OAP to compare injuries with though? A neighbour would do?