Author Topic: My bike is ticking... (Read 11650 times)

Dead Eye · « **Reply #25 on:** 17 October 2012, 02:22:46 pm »

Picked up some bits to clean the carbs today and have been disassembling them. Unfortunately I can't undo the screws for three of the diaphrams

I was hoping to clean the carb bodies as I had noticed one or two little bits of grit (though these could have been my fault when I took the carbs off).

Obviously I can't use carb cleaner near the diaphrams as they will be destroyed but I did come across this ~~home made ultrasonic bath~~ (read down) - in this they used Tesco's Cola, would this be too harsh on the diaphrams? I've got all the parts for the bath so its definitely something I intend to try on the other bits and if it works well I'll feedback

His Dudeness · « **Reply #26 on:** 17 October 2012, 08:28:16 pm »

an impact driver will get the screws out and they're not too expensive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_driver

Dead Eye · « **Reply #27 on:** 18 October 2012, 12:09:37 am »

Ah yeah, thats probably a good idea - another tool to add to my collection... my poor bank account...

Also just another quick note - the default position for the mixture screws is 2 to 2 1/2 turns out on ALL the carbs right? Mine were all over the place and ranged from 1.5 turns to 3.5 turns :S

The tensioner seems to be fine, I counted 7 clicks which should leave 4 or 5 left for chain wear and leaves me on course for about 30-35k before I need to replace the cam chain. Just need to finish cleaning the carbs, balance them and reassemble everything...

His Dudeness · « **Reply #28 on:** 18 October 2012, 02:04:08 am »

sounds good. keep at it

think its two turns out on the 600

John Silva · « **Reply #29 on:** 18 October 2012, 10:06:31 am »

Yup 2 turns out is the standard setting.

Dead Eye · « **Reply #30 on:** 19 October 2012, 11:59:44 am »

So everything has gone horribly horribly wrong

I was cleaning the carb bodies yesterday ready for reassembly and then this happened

My poor 600 is gone

Not likely to be getting another one any time soon - the excess on my insurance policy is half of what the bike is insured for, plus there is the no claims discount that will disappear and cost me more money in the future - long story short is that even if I did claim I wouldn't be able to afford to buy another.

Oh and I'm not certain what started the fire, but the leading guess is that it was the home made ultrasonic bath - so DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME

budgiemurray · « **Reply #31 on:** 19 October 2012, 12:09:20 pm »

Bloody tragic.. Hope you wasnt in there when it went up..

Budgie

sent from somewhere beyond the rim.

darrsi · « **Reply #32 on:** 19 October 2012, 12:32:00 pm »

OH NO !!!

Dead Eye · « **Reply #33 on:** 19 October 2012, 12:36:27 pm »

Thankfully no one was injured and the house was fine, garage has been totalled though as you can see.

All of my tools are basically ruined (and not covered by contents insurance...), plus all the booze in the fridge and all of my housemates underwear (which was in the dryer)

The truely lucky part was that the fuel tank didn't explode as it was resting against the garage wall - the fire started at the rear right hand side and the fuel tank was front left. But still, 5 days after moving in to a new property and I manage to burn the garage down - pretty sure the landlord isn't impressed...

CRH · « **Reply #34 on:** 19 October 2012, 12:54:14 pm »

bad shit there deadeye/....dont despair though matey?...claim off your ins, get what you can off the robbing bstds and pick up a insrnce write off!! plenty of cat d and c"s out there!!!

....bet there still some stuff you,l be able to salvage off toasty!!

John Silva · « **Reply #35 on:** 19 October 2012, 01:10:51 pm »

Sorry to hear and see the aftermath of this.

I expect the sparks from the electric motor on your home made ultrasonic bath ignited petrol fumes.

Think of this as a challenge for a winter project

or not...

wezdavo · « **Reply #36 on:** 19 October 2012, 01:17:56 pm »

That is a nightmare

Dead Eye · « **Reply #37 on:** 19 October 2012, 02:33:35 pm »

Quote from: John Silva on 19 October 2012, 01:10:51 pm

Sorry to hear and see the aftermath of this.

I expect the sparks from the electric motor on your home made ultrasonic bath ignited petrol fumes.

Think of this as a challenge for a winter project or not...

Its a fair guess and may be right - but there was no smell of fuel and no rags / containers nearby that had been subjected to fuel / flammable liquids (that weren't sealed - there was a can of Carb Cleaner that I'd just bought on the dryer - the bath was on the floor). I'd used the bath the day before for over an hour and a half and there were none of the smells for electrical burnout and no excessive heat on the sander or box... Obviously it was the sander that started it, but how is a complete mystery to me at current.

His Dudeness · « **Reply #38 on:** 19 October 2012, 03:41:48 pm »

Holy crap! Thank God no one got hurt. I feel bad for encouraging you to clean the carb now. The poor bike is wrecked. Could you put up the link to ultrasonic machine I didn't get a look at it the first time. It would serve as a warning to anyone else thinking of using it. Feck sake what a disaster I'm really gutted for you Dead Eye

Dead Eye · « **Reply #39 on:** 19 October 2012, 04:09:49 pm »

Don't feel bad, its not your fault at all - the carbs really did need cleaning. Kind of annoying how I finally bought the Morgan Carbtune and now its sat inside (thankfully) without ever having been used.

The link for the ultrasonic bath is here but after my events I'd suggest using a toothbrush and carb cleaner or get a company to do it for you

I was just getting to that point of withdrawal from not having ridden for a while... looks like I'm going cold turkey. One final annoying part is that I have a car that I needed to replace the gearbox on to get it roadworthy - unfortunately all of my tools have been disintegrated and I can't afford to replace them at current so I can't even work on that.

His Dudeness · « **Reply #40 on:** 19 October 2012, 05:11:14 pm »

Maybe the sander overheated or the motor was a bit sparky. Was turned on for a long time? Was crap luck that it spread over to the bike.

Fazerider · « **Reply #41 on:** 19 October 2012, 05:47:06 pm »

I was scrolling slowly down those horrific pics thinking this must be a wind-up... truly sorry that it wasn't.

Was the dryer in use at the time? Just wondering if that might've been the start of it rather than your ultrasonic(ish) cleaning contraption.

richfzs · « **Reply #42 on:** 19 October 2012, 06:22:00 pm »

Nightmare! Any chance fluid splashed onto the sander? water and leccy don't go too well...

Dead Eye · « **Reply #43 on:** 19 October 2012, 06:48:14 pm »

@His Dudeness - Potentially yes, but it wasn't on for long at all. I had the system running for over an hour and a half the day before and there were no electrical smells and the box and sander weren't hot at all.

@Fazerider - Unfortunately not a wind up

I'm fairly certain the dryer wasn't in operation, but its not something I'd thought of - potentially a road worth investigating.

@richfzs - The box had a lid on it that was sealed so I would be surprised if any fluid got out...

phillywilly · « **Reply #44 on:** 19 October 2012, 09:09:07 pm »

Quote from: Dead Eye on 19 October 2012, 11:59:44 am

So everything has gone horribly horribly wrong I was cleaning the carb bodies yesterday ready for reassembly and then this happened

My poor 600 is gone

Not likely to be getting another one any time soon - the excess on my insurance policy is half of what the bike is insured for, plus there is the no claims discount that will disappear and cost me more money in the future - long story short is that even if I did claim I wouldn't be able to afford to buy another.

Oh and I'm not certain what started the fire, but the leading guess is that it was the home made ultrasonic bath - so DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME

what a screwed up system this country has when multi billion pound insurance companies charge you so much for excess that its not worth claiming on an item when you really need their help !!!
feel really bad for you dead eye
p.s couldnt you say the fire started with the tumble drier and claim off your landlords insurance ?

His Dudeness · « **Reply #45 on:** 19 October 2012, 09:38:36 pm »

phillywilly has a point there. if the garage is technically part of the house then you might be able to claim for the bike under the contents cover of the house.

Dead Eye · « **Reply #46 on:** 20 October 2012, 12:46:34 am »

The contents cover is arranged by us (the tenants) for which the bike isn't covered unfortunately. It's under the same section saying that no vehicle accessories or tools are covered either which again sucks.

Just going to have to save my pennys (the few I have remaining) and take it from there... I think the exhaust might be salvageable so I'll take a stab at removing it and cleaning it up but I don't hold much hope.

richfzs · « **Reply #47 on:** 20 October 2012, 05:50:35 am »

Frame & logbook worth money?

Fazerider · « **Reply #48 on:** 20 October 2012, 09:33:07 am »

The front end may be salvageable. Obviously it's a bit messy having had the fairing melt all over it, but it doesn't look like it got particularly hot. Forks may be fine after a cleanup and new seals, likewise the wheel and brake calipers.
Was second gear good? Engine internals like the drum, selector forks and gears should have survived the heat.

red98 · « **Reply #49 on:** 20 October 2012, 09:42:12 am »

bl**dy hell deadeye

.......iam glad you were not in there....gutted for you mate,absolutly gutted

......i think you might be supprised at the amount of parts you can salvage,not a nice situation to be in but if you get yourself back out to the garage and strip the bike down theres probs quite a few parts that are still useable

could offer them on here or ebay

really sorry for you matey

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