Author Topic: Scooter issues (Read 3518 times)

green_rider · « **on:** 22 September 2012, 02:51:29 pm »

My sister decided to leave her scooter for long enough that it now wont start. I've so far drained and refilled the carb (which looksclean), replaced the spark plug, checked for a spark, fully charged the battery. Had the cover off the air intake, and even used some easy start spray. At this point I'm not sure what else to check! Any suggestions?

His Dudeness · « **Reply #1 on:** 22 September 2012, 04:58:12 pm »

is it a 2 stroke or a 4 stroke? how long was it parked up for?

ade the blade · « **Reply #2 on:** 22 September 2012, 05:33:26 pm »

does it have a `kill` switch?

green_rider · « **Reply #3 on:** 22 September 2012, 06:16:33 pm »

Its a 4 stroke. Ade I did think that after trying to electric and kick start it but no go, kill switch is set to run.

ade the blade · « **Reply #4 on:** 22 September 2012, 06:25:59 pm »

you say you`ve drained / refilled carb, so have you renewed all fuel in the tank ?

green_rider · « **Reply #5 on:** 22 September 2012, 08:12:52 pm »

Yep replaced the fuel with fresh initially. Its been in there for about a week and a half.

His Dudeness · « **Reply #6 on:** 22 September 2012, 10:18:13 pm »

was it running when it was parked up? if you have another battery that you know is definitely good stick that in and try and start it.

green_rider · « **Reply #7 on:** 22 September 2012, 10:24:52 pm »

I went the whole hog and connected it to the car battery, but no luck

His Dudeness · « **Reply #8 on:** 22 September 2012, 10:26:20 pm »

and it was running before it was parked?

green_rider · « **Reply #9 on:** 22 September 2012, 10:36:26 pm »

Yes was running ok but may have been sat on and off in-between. Getting meaningful history from my sister is like trying to get a refund from the tax man!

His Dudeness · « **Reply #10 on:** 22 September 2012, 10:46:57 pm »

haha i know what you mean. it is hard to describe to someone whats happening if your not sure how it works. so you ruled out the battery, the starter is turning over the engine and your getting good spark, there's fresh petrol in it and you've had a look at the air filter but it still wont start. is that right? what condition were the plugs in after you tried to start it?

green_rider · « **Reply #11 on:** 22 September 2012, 11:02:15 pm »

The plug seemed dry but there was a smell of unburnt fuel after cranking

His Dudeness · « **Reply #12 on:** 22 September 2012, 11:12:47 pm »

i think you'll have to strip and clean out the carbs fully and go from there. but if you have a compression tester test the compression first.

solorider · « **Reply #13 on:** 23 September 2012, 09:49:11 am »

did you have the rear brake on when trying to start it?

green_rider · « **Reply #14 on:** 23 September 2012, 11:00:48 am »

Yes rear brake was on. Will get the Carb ultrasonically cleaned this week.

james43 · « **Reply #15 on:** 23 September 2012, 02:48:38 pm »

Had exactly the same problem with my sisters,

Turned out it was the side stand switch, get undernesth disconnect the switch and plug the wires in together to complete the circuit.

hope its that it was driving me insane.

Cheers james

green_rider · « **Reply #16 on:** 23 September 2012, 03:05:31 pm »

Only a center stand on this one...

His Dudeness · « **Reply #17 on:** 23 September 2012, 04:18:07 pm »

a can of carb cleaner would do the job. only cost a few quid too

green_rider · « **Reply #18 on:** 23 September 2012, 05:08:47 pm »

Carb cleaner is a good plan. Once it stops chucking it down I'll give it a shot

Panthor · « **Reply #19 on:** 24 September 2012, 09:58:42 am »

If it has the switches on the brakes you need to pull to start it, make sure they are cleaned and ok as mine rusted up after being stored for a few months

green_rider · « **Reply #20 on:** 25 September 2012, 10:18:19 am »

Ok, carb cleaned (although couldn't see any varnishing or blockages). The brake switch is ok because as soon as I let go of the brake it stops cranking the engine. Will reinstall the carb once the battery is charged again, am trying to keep it full between starting attempts so it doesn't drop too low.

green_rider · « **Reply #21 on:** 25 September 2012, 10:52:29 am »

ok, fired it up just now and it started straight away then died within seconds. kick starting will run it for about half a second before it cuts out again.

CRH · « **Reply #22 on:** 25 September 2012, 12:08:26 pm »

Quote from: green_rider on 25 September 2012, 10:52:29 am

ok, fired it up just now and it started straight away then died within seconds. kick starting will run it for about half a second before it cuts out again.

.....are you sure its getting fuel????....

green_rider · « **Reply #23 on:** 25 September 2012, 12:20:33 pm »

monged it. the drain screw was still loose from the rebuild. it's finally started!

Andy FZS · « **Reply #24 on:** 25 September 2012, 12:23:11 pm »

Well done, it sounds like your sister owes you a drink

Andy