whats better k and n or genuine part air filter ?

[yambam46]

Right guys am gonna buy a new air filter as the one thats in is 12 year old so i thought id give her a treat !!
What do you guys think is better k and n which are slightly dearer(£30) or yamaha genuine part (£25.90)
Anyone notice any difference performance wise,fuel economy etc.

[darrsi]

12 year old air filter, seriously ???
I've always stuck with the original ones personally, but i don't think your bike will care, it'll just take a big gasp for air and be thankful.....lol   

[Gnasher]

Put in the K&N it will clean up the low to mid range very nicely giving you improved throttle response 

[yambam46]

hA ha ha, had to get my moneys worth out it !! K and Ns for me i think might get 20 year out that  !!!!! cheers !!

[Motorbreath]

12 years 

Put in the K&N it will clean up the low to mid range very nicely giving you improved throttle response 

I think the same (BMC in my bike). I also cut the inlet plastic from the cap. Maybe it is just our imagination but the air intake noise is louder, that's great.

There are also paper ones, made by aftermarket brands, just like the OEM one, but much cheaper.

Anybody else has messed with the cap silencer?

[Slaninar]

I think the same (BMC in my bike). I also cut the inlet plastic from the cap. Maybe it is just our imagination but the air intake noise is louder, that's great.

There are also paper ones, made by aftermarket brands, just like the OEM one, but much cheaper.

Anybody else has messed with the cap silencer?

OFF TOPIC:
Spaniard, from your recent posts, I wander what part of your Fazer is left in original state? You've created a monster!
You can chase Ninjas, R6s, CBRrs, Gixxers etc with Fazer now? 

OP:
K&N (or BMC - whichever is easier to find). Best thing.

[Motorbreath]

Haha I do not know, I'd like to test a full standard one, maybe I have just ruined it .

Really I do not know I just chase faster bikes like everybody does, it is more related to rider's capability (and craziness  ).

[clayt74]

Haha I do not know, I'd like to test a full standard one, maybe I have just ruined it .

Really I do not know I just chase faster bikes like everybody does, it is more related to rider's capability (and craziness  ).

a colleague of mine has an R6 and is an adrenalin/sports junkie!!! only been riding 2.5 years (first bike was his R6) race exhaust, power commander and dyno tuned.
he is insane and rides day to day as i never would
however around the B and small A roads, in our little somerset he cannot out do me on my FZS600??? his torque is too high up the rev range for him to keep it on the limit?
on long straights he leaves me for dust.
is it the fazers great range??? or just difference in style?? who knows?

[Motorbreath]

That's why the FZS600 is the best road bike ever made. Also this year I only pay 100€ for insurance , try that, sporty ones 

[Slaninar]

That's why the FZS600 is the best road bike ever made. Also this year I only pay 100€ for insurance , try that, sporty ones 

In my country, insurance is based on CC only. So it is the same for all the bikes between 500 and 750 cc. It's around 200 euros per year for all the registration costs (technical correctness test, taxes, insurance etc).   

But R6 seating position and need for higher revs is just crap for most public roads - like a suicide machine.

[keno]

That's why the FZS600 is the best road bike ever made. Also this year I only pay 100€ for insurance  , try that, sporty ones 

Cost me £35 for insurance last year for the 98 fazer & £86 for the 2006 zrx1200r..

[Motorbreath]

That's why the FZS600 is the best road bike ever made. Also this year I only pay 100€ for insurance , try that, sporty ones 

In my country, insurance is based on CC only. So it is the same for all the bikes between 500 and 750 cc. It's around 200 euros per year for all the registration costs (technical correctness test, taxes, insurance etc).   

But R6 seating position and need for higher revs is just crap for most public roads - like a suicide machine.

So you pay more for a Dragstar than for a R1??
My new company just do the opposite. They do not want to insure an old FZR600, but the are happy with the Suzuki B-king or Aprilia Tuono

That's why the FZS600 is the best road bike ever made. Also this year I only pay 100€ for insurance  , try that, sporty ones 

Cost me £35 for insurance last year for the 98 fazer & £86 for the 2006 zrx1200r..

Amazing. You cannot find those prices in Spain, for sure, no matter how old are you.

[bwizz]

Ive tried BMC and KN's on  my various 600's they are both better than standard. Improved midrange !

[Slaninar]

So you pay more for a Dragstar than for a R1??

No. R1 is 1000 cc so it costs a bit more. 500 to 750 cc is about 200 euros. 750 to 1000 cc is about 230 euros. Under 250 cc costs about 100 euros.

[Motorbreath]

I meant a Dragstar 1100, or a big harley

[Slaninar]

I meant a Dragstar 1100, or a big harley

I think that over 1000 cc it is some 20-30 euros more expensive than under 1000. So 1100 DragStar would cost some 260, while R1 would cost 230 per year registration insurance. Many people here ride R1. A saying goes: "R one, or none!" 

[JZS 600]

Had a moment of wierdness when I changed from a VFR 800 to the Fazer 600.
 
Insurance went up a fraction!
 
I was told that this was because the Fazer was in a different insurance bracket,,,, WTF?

[Slaninar]

Had a moment of wierdness when I changed from a VFR 800 to the Fazer 600.
 
Insurance went up a fraction!
 
I was told that this was because the Fazer was in a different insurance bracket,,,, WTF?

Nothing strange: Honda is a safer, pensioner's bike, for slow old farts.   

[solorider]

I pay £136 for my fazer thou,I paid £22 more than my vfr750 a year.One thing you have to be carefull with the k&n is it can allow too much air through so I would not use one if you live in a dusty area

[Slaninar]

I pay £136 for my fazer thou,I paid £22 more than my vfr750 a year.One thing you have to be carefull with the k&n is it can allow too much air through so I would not use one if you live in a dusty area

No, quite the contrary. KN is good at filtering dust, but doesn't get clogged so easily. It should do good in dusty conditions. No engine was damaged from dust let in through oiled and well maintained KN/BMC filter. Just old wives tale. Same as fully synthetic oil damaging "older" bikes.

[Dead Eye]

Holy hell... I really can not wait until im a bit older and actually have some no claims discount - my insurance was £470! That was the cheapest I could find it

Mind you, I was 21 and had passed my test 4 days before getting my bike / insurance...


Just to note as well, im running a K&N Air Filter. I did change the entire exhaust system at the same time though so its impossible for me to say whether the Air Filter improved anything.

[DaxPlusPlus]

If I could pay £470 per year to be 21 again I'd gladly pay  but I know what you mean - it's one of the better things about growing older.

I just got a Fazer and I'm paying £84 TPFF - with NO NCB  but again I know which I'd rather have.

[Andy FZS]

My insurance also £82 without any NCB and I got £20 back by buying it through "Top cash back" so really only £62 but sadly I not 21 or even 21 the second time around.

[Dead Eye]

Haha, this is very true. Oh the joys of being young... I'd say care free but thats not quite true

[fazersharp]

Anyyyyy hu backk to the op
I too have a 98 fazer still with origional air filter - done 13,000 miles. Had it for 10 years
Still as good as it ever was ---Unless it has degraded so very slowly as for me not to notice.
I do though have a new yam filter all ready to put in, so would be a good test to go for the same run befor and after