Author Topic: Replacement oil return/feed pipe (Read 13727 times)

BBROWN1664 · « **Reply #25 on:** 23 August 2016, 03:41:27 pm »

Take the pipe off, cut the pipe where the hole is and push a rubber fuel pipe over both cut ends to rejoin the pipe. Use jubilee clips to secure it and job done.

cnw180 · « **Reply #26 on:** 23 August 2016, 08:27:21 pm »

Yeah, the bit in the middle is a bracket..... I managed to get a used one from a breakers today for £10, but it doesnt have much life left in it. It will do for now.....

In the meantime, the search for a new one continues, might have to get it made, however I now have a set of spare bolts and the old pipe!

cnw180 · « **Reply #27 on:** 23 August 2016, 08:29:11 pm »

Quote from: cnw180 on 23 August 2016, 08:27:21 pm

Yeah, the bit in the middle is a bracket..... I managed to get a used one from a breakers today for £10, but it doesnt have much life left in it. It will do for now.....

In the meantime, the search for a new one continues, might have to get it made, however I now have a set of spare bolts and the old pipe!

Nice idea, but the pipe was a write off by the time I got it off the bike. it was split, a couple of inches long!

joebloggs · « **Reply #28 on:** 23 August 2016, 08:35:48 pm »

Quote from: BBROWN1664 on 23 August 2016, 03:41:27 pm

Take the pipe off, cut the pipe where the hole is and push a rubber fuel pipe over both cut ends to rejoin the pipe. Use jubilee clips to secure it and job done.

I'm not saying you can't do this but my brother lunched an FJ1100 engine doing the same thing although it was for the oil cooler hose.

Bretty · « **Reply #29 on:** 25 August 2016, 12:58:38 pm »

I just found this in my bits bucket outside. It has a couple of minor dinks which won't affect it's performance or life and with a bit of wire wool, would come up quite nice and shiny.

Make me an offer if you like, I'm in NW London

BBROWN1664 · « **Reply #30 on:** 25 August 2016, 03:42:30 pm »

Joe - How? All you are doing is bridging the rust hole. The only reason to cut the pipe is to let you feed the rubber hose over as it wont fit over the banjos.
Obviously, the rubber pipe needs to be able to handle the temperature too.

joebloggs · « **Reply #31 on:** 25 August 2016, 05:16:07 pm »

Quote from: BBROWN1664 on 25 August 2016, 03:42:30 pm

Joe - How? All you are doing is bridging the rust hole. The only reason to cut the pipe is to let you feed the rubber hose over as it wont fit over the banjos.
Obviously, the rubber pipe needs to be able to handle the temperature too.

Oil pressure blew the hose off. With a plain pipe there was nothing preventing the pipe from slipping off.

joebloggs · « **Reply #32 on:** 26 August 2016, 11:55:24 pm »

Had a chat with my local engineer today, he thinks there would be no problem using a flexible hose. He's going to remove mine and check what fittings would be needed to replace the stock items

Tefer · « **Reply #33 on:** 27 August 2016, 08:23:15 am »

Quote from: joebloggs on 26 August 2016, 11:55:24 pm

Had a chat with my local engineer today, he thinks there would be no problem using a flexible hose. He's going to remove mine and check what fittings would be needed to replace the stock items

Top man

BBROWN1664 · « **Reply #34 on:** 27 August 2016, 09:22:27 am »

Joe - You would obviously need to make sure the surfaces were spotlessly clean of oil and make sure the jubilee clips are tight. The pipe shouldn't come off if done properly.

Fazerider · « **Reply #35 on:** 27 August 2016, 09:42:07 am »

Quote from: joebloggs on 26 August 2016, 11:55:24 pm

Had a chat with my local engineer today, he thinks there would be no problem using a flexible hose. He's going to remove mine and check what fittings would be needed to replace the stock items

The difficulty with using a flexible hose is that it's hard to control the route it takes accurately. There are lots of things it can rub against, some of them very hot.

joebloggs · « **Reply #36 on:** 27 August 2016, 11:13:03 am »

Quote from: Fazerider on 27 August 2016, 09:42:07 am

Quote from: joebloggs on 26 August 2016, 11:55:24 pm
Had a chat with my local engineer today, he thinks there would be no problem using a flexible hose. He's going to remove mine and check what fittings would be needed to replace the stock items
The difficulty with using a flexible hose is that it's hard to control the route it takes accurately. There are lots of things it can rub against, some of them very hot.

I thought about the routing and heat from the exhaust, if you took the hose around the side of the block then down this would solve that issue, hose is cheap enough, fittings are the biggest expense. Hardest job for me would be making it look like it was meant to be there not just hanging off the bike.

Jules-C · « **Reply #37 on:** 27 August 2016, 11:17:25 am »

The steady point for the existing pipe can be used to keep the new pipe away from most of the exhaust but you would have to be careful what angle the top banjo fitting ends up at and the curve of the pipe

joebloggs · « **Reply #38 on:** 27 August 2016, 11:58:44 am »

Thinking about it, a p-clip off one of the exhaust studs would hold it place (assuming you can get the focer undone)

daviee · « **Reply #39 on:** 04 December 2016, 04:19:56 pm »

anyone tried the fzr600 oil pipe looks very similar and plenty on ebay

Tefer · « **Reply #40 on:** 04 December 2016, 09:06:40 pm »

Quote from: daviee on 04 December 2016, 04:19:56 pm

anyone tried the fzr600 oil pipe looks very similar and plenty on ebay

Different part numbers?

Jules-C · « **Reply #41 on:** 05 December 2016, 02:46:43 pm »

Looking at the ones on eBay the FZR ones look like they have more bends so no guarantee they will fit and no way to tell without trying one.

daviee · « **Reply #42 on:** 06 December 2016, 05:10:31 pm »

it was just a thought as in pretty sure it could be made to fit without too much hassle also what about the gsxr cam oil pipe wonder how close they would be

Fazerider · « **Reply #43 on:** 08 December 2016, 03:36:58 pm »

One (used) available on ebay at the moment...

tommyardin · « **Reply #44 on:** 08 December 2016, 03:57:24 pm »

Quote from: Fazerider on 08 December 2016, 03:36:58 pm

One (used) available on ebay at the moment...

I followed the link in Fazeriders post/link to look at the oil link pipe, Looks OK, but it has been tarted up for sale it say Used item, but looking at the mating faces on the Banjo unions and the central mounting bracket there is not a mark on them, zooming in on the pipe you can see rust on it but looks like the whole thing has been sprayed with silver paint to tart it up, prob still OK as looking at mine it has some signs of rust on it too.
But I do think a lot of sale hype and scaremongering is going on in the advert. take a look see what you think.

His Dudeness · « **Reply #45 on:** 08 December 2016, 04:20:46 pm »

would that style pipe work? not that exact one just using it as an example http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-Motorcycle-Brake-Oil-Hose-Line-Banjo-Fitting-Lightweight-60cm-24-/131689106735?hash=item1ea9484d2f:g:cz8AAOSwc1FXbk7E

Fazerider · « **Reply #46 on:** 08 December 2016, 05:39:16 pm »

Quote from: tommyardin on 08 December 2016, 03:57:24 pm

Quote from: Fazerider on 08 December 2016, 03:36:58 pm
One (used) available on ebay at the moment...

I followed the link in Fazeriders post/link to look at the oil link pipe, Looks OK, but it has been tarted up for sale it say Used item, but looking at the mating faces on the Banjo unions and the central mounting bracket there is not a mark on them, zooming in on the pipe you can see rust on it but looks like the whole thing has been sprayed with silver paint to tart it up, prob still OK as looking at mine it has some signs of rust on it too.
But I do think a lot of sale hype and scaremongering is going on in the advert. take a look see what you think.

Yes, I misread the listing initially and thought it was a new one.
Posted, then realised it wasn't new, but could only amend the post not delete it.
Repainted s/h ones do pop up from time to time, but how much metal is left under the new paint is anyone's guess.

tommyardin · « **Reply #47 on:** 08 December 2016, 07:46:19 pm »

Quote from: His Dudeness on 08 December 2016, 04:20:46 pm

would that style pipe work? not that exact one just using it as an example http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-Motorcycle-Brake-Oil-Hose-Line-Banjo-Fitting-Lightweight-60cm-24-/131689106735?hash=item1ea9484d2f:g:cz8AAOSwc1FXbk7E

I'm with His Dudeness on this one if these steel braided pipes can withhold the forces involved in hydraulics braking systems then I would imagine that the pressures involved within the oil pressure system on a motorcycle would not pose a problem. The only real difference is that the engine oil would be quite a high temperature as apposed to brake fluid.
You could also have one colour coded to suit the braided pipes on your braking system.
seems to me to be win/win.
I am certainly going to look into it, you know ask the question.

daviee · « **Reply #48 on:** 08 December 2016, 08:22:58 pm »

you can buy high pressure braided oil pipes an fittings on ebay

daviee · « **Reply #49 on:** 08 December 2016, 08:32:48 pm »

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUDI-A3-A4-A6-1-8-20V-TURBO-STAINLESS-STEEL-BRAIDED-TURBO-OIL-FEED-HOSE-PIPE-YT-/152292231314?hash=item2375530892:g:6qIAAOxyVLNSqIba