Author Topic: Are there pro-republic British? (Read 6486 times)

Motorbreath · « **on:** 11 May 2012, 10:37:37 am »

Just curious. Here in Spain we are a lot of people who do not want a king (worse if it is a stupid french king like this one and all his ascendants, put in charge after the death of a traitorous dictator who started a civil war to eliminate the republic). But a lot of foreign people think most of the spaniards are strongly monarchic.

I suspect that your kings and queens have made a far better job so I understand you like them. Also they are British too, not a family of retards dumped by the french. I just want to know if you are as monarchic as you seem. How many british prefer a republic?

I hope it does not turn to an angry argument. Sorry if it is not adequate to start a topic like this.

mcyoungy · « **Reply #1 on:** 11 May 2012, 11:29:50 am »

They're great. Love em to bits, them Germans.

mcyoungy · « **Reply #2 on:** 11 May 2012, 11:30:43 am »

Quote from: mcyoungy on 11 May 2012, 11:29:50 am

They're great. Love em to bits, them Germans.

We had a republic. That was shit too, so they brought the monarchy back.

ddtwelve · « **Reply #3 on:** 11 May 2012, 11:35:32 am »

Yep there crap our Germans

DILLIGAFF · « **Reply #4 on:** 11 May 2012, 11:49:56 am »

orf with their heads.........................

Tefer · « **Reply #5 on:** 11 May 2012, 12:09:44 pm »

I myself am not a fan of the Monarch's could be as i am Scottish though and feel aggrieved by the story's in History. I see no real point to them, i argue that the do nothing and get paid for it, i have been told that they make up for that up in Tourism though!

Scotland looking to become independent, but unfortunately for me we are keeping the Monarchy as head of sate!

Anyway that's my opinion on it, but each to there own!

Hodge · « **Reply #6 on:** 11 May 2012, 12:18:54 pm »

I love the monarchy. God bless the Royal family. Lizzie rocks.

mcyoungy · « **Reply #7 on:** 11 May 2012, 01:04:11 pm »

Quote from: Tefer on 11 May 2012, 12:09:44 pm

I myself am not a fan of the Monarch's could be as i am Scottish though and feel aggrieved by the story's in History. I see no real point to them, i argue that the do nothing and get paid for it, i have been told that they make up for that up in Tourism though!

Scotland looking to become independent, but unfortunately for me we are keeping the Monarchy as head of sate!

Anyway that's my opinion on it, but each to there own!

Wasn't it a Scottish king that united England and Scotland?

Skippernick · « **Reply #8 on:** 11 May 2012, 01:04:59 pm »

Love the monarchy, of course our monarchy is respected across the world and the alternative is a President oohh lets be like the yanks etc.

DryRob · « **Reply #9 on:** 11 May 2012, 01:17:18 pm »

We had this argument at work a few months back, the main points seem to be

Republicans:
Tourists would visit the UK without a royal family
They are unelected and could seize power from the government
They cost us money despite having massive wealth
France and the USA have done pretty well without a Royal family

Royalists:
They attract tourism
They won't seize power, their role in government is purely symbolic
They don't cost that much per person per year and do a lot of charity work
There are a part of our heritage and the rest of the world envy us

I honestly don't care either way but people on both sides are very passionate. It's all very interesting watching them argue about it.

steeeve66 · « **Reply #10 on:** 11 May 2012, 01:31:47 pm »

little point in getting shot of them unless there's a better alternative - President Boris anyone? Ken even?? No thanks.

Australia had a vote on it a few years back and decided to keep the Royals, not out of any particular loyalty, but in the main because the alternative didn't look any better.

locksmith · « **Reply #11 on:** 11 May 2012, 05:08:02 pm »

Just got to look at the crowds who turn out for royal events to realise how much they are wanted!
The Jubilee events will enforce that I'm sure.

Skippernick · « **Reply #12 on:** 11 May 2012, 05:21:14 pm »

And its proven that they cost less than a president aswell.

mcyoungy · « **Reply #13 on:** 11 May 2012, 05:24:34 pm »

Well you know if we had a total monarchy with just one of them on the take it would be much cheaper than the 650 odd self effacing tossers in parliament.

chris.biker · « **Reply #14 on:** 11 May 2012, 08:29:52 pm »

I tend towards a republic, how you can be proud of a family in charge with an ancestry of murders i do not know. But moving on I think the fairest compromise is PRIVATISATION.

Major Rant · « **Reply #15 on:** 11 May 2012, 08:32:08 pm »

I didn't vote for her!

mcyoungy · « **Reply #16 on:** 11 May 2012, 09:15:24 pm »

Quote from: chris.biker on 11 May 2012, 08:29:52 pm

I tend towards a republic, how you can be proud of a family in charge with an ancestry of murders i do not know. But moving on I think the fairest compromise is PRIVATISATION.

Interesting. Cromwell's lot never murdered anyone?

BIG MAC · « **Reply #17 on:** 11 May 2012, 09:43:51 pm »

What kind of question is that for a bike forum.....Ask Madderv he's up to speed on Queens etc lol

chris.biker · « **Reply #18 on:** 11 May 2012, 10:44:57 pm »

Quote from: mcyoungy on 11 May 2012, 09:15:24 pm

Quote from: chris.biker on 11 May 2012, 08:29:52 pm
I tend towards a republic, how you can be proud of a family in charge with an ancestry of murders i do not know. But moving on I think the fairest compromise is PRIVATISATION.

Interesting. Cromwell's lot never murdered anyone?

Cromwell lot is a whole new subject, we all know what the house of commons is full of.

DryRob · « **Reply #19 on:** 12 May 2012, 09:19:15 am »

don't forget to include the house of lords in that sentiment

VNA - BMW Wank · « **Reply #20 on:** 12 May 2012, 06:46:21 pm »

I'm a Scottish Nationalist, and yes a republican.

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They won't seize power, their role in government is purely symbolic

Try telling that to the British Citizens Diego Garcia, our lovely Queen was only too happy to sign a Royal Decree (bypassing parliament) to have them forcibly removed and dumped in Mauritius and the Seychelles, in order that the British could lease the island to the USA as an airbase.

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There are a part of our heritage and the rest of the world envy us

Did anybody watch the Queens speech? No of course not, OK did you see clips of it, is the rest of the world not laughing at us.

And of course we are all in this together - oh yes!

dolau · « **Reply #21 on:** 12 May 2012, 08:00:13 pm »

Every day I watch the world news and thank whoever it is up there that I was born in Britain. Before you all want to rip this great country to pieces- fancy a day or two in Baghdad or Tel-Aviv? Fancy running a street market stall in downtown Kandahar?

I like the Monarchy- its pagentry that Britain is built on not politics- who gives a monkeys what DC signes his love texts to Rebecca Brooks and what Clegg thinks and as for the boy Millipede

- but when the Queen comes out of Buck house - the streets are lined with people wanting to get a glimpse- she came to our village during the last Jamboree ten years ago- a tiny village in mid Wales and I was stood no more that three feet away from her burly bodyguard.... and she is tiny!

The thing I saw on the news this week was tree huggers trying to get the Empire taken out of the OBE, CBE etc. If you have done good things and Queenie would like to give you a gong are you really worried that this countries wealth was built on oppression and empire several hundreds of years before you or the tree huggers were born and at a different time and circumstances

A few hundred years ago we all lived in mud huts and life was cheap- it is no good asking for an apology for what was done all that time ago to ancesters you never knew. If you must think back to say Queen Vickies time- think how under the empire things improved in the countries that were part of the empire and how quickly they reverted to tribalism and barbarism as soon as we left... think of most of the African countries for example- Rhodesia- now Mugabe land- I dont think our history is too bad as an influencing nation.

I say keep the monarchy - it does more good than harm- which is more than can be said for the current Government and the Lords

chris.biker · « **Reply #22 on:** 12 May 2012, 09:12:03 pm »

On the subject of empire it has crossed my mind how strong and successful would it be if it was still together now? But I have in mind an empire as multi-cultural and PC as the UK is today

dolau · « **Reply #23 on:** 12 May 2012, 09:37:50 pm »

Thats not very though is it Chris! $:\$

Slaninar · « **Reply #24 on:** 13 May 2012, 07:15:43 am »

In my country there was socialism for some 50 years (1945 - 1990). That was the only period when a normal, average working man could get a job, educate his children (for free), get decent health care (for free), travel to the sea, mountains, get a car, a flat etc.

Before 1945 my country had kings.
After 1990 my country has democracy.

Both those periods have: poor working class, few rich people. If I had to choose between rotten democratic politicians and mad autocratic king, I'd go for the king, because I respect vilains and despise spineless politicians. Best solution is a good king IMO.