Nice little upgrade

[teecee90]

Just overhauled he rear end with new swing arm and shock linkage bearings, pins and seals. Decided to upgrade the shock while I was at it.... R6 shock has gone into the spares box for now.

[celticbiker]

Nitron  shocks are the badgers nadgers.
One question though, is it just the camera angle or is that nut securing the shock to the linkage a little closer to the link arms?

[teecee90]

Nitron  shocks are the badgers nadgers.
One question though, is it just the camera angle or is that nut securing the shock to the linkage a little closer to the link arms?

Yes, it is quite close but doesn't snag. The shock came with free fitting and set-up so I didn't fit it myself. Apparently it comes with a new bottom bolt in the kit. Was tempted to refit the original bolt, but cant see it being a problem because there is no lateral movement at that point so don't think the clearance is that critical.

[SkidT]

Looks very nice. Significantly [size=78%]cheaper than an Ohlins equivalent? Which model did you go for? [/size]
Looks like real tidy bike you’ve got there.

[teecee90]

Looks very nice. Significantly [size=78%]cheaper than an Ohlins equivalent? Which model did you go for? [/size]
Looks like real tidy bike you’ve got there.

Went for the R2 model .... NTBKY09T

[Falcon 269]

I'm surprised no-one else has commented on the complete absence of oil, grease, dirt or other crap on any single component of the bike in those photos. 

Seriously, when was the last time you saw the underside of a Fazer look that clean unless it was sitting new on the showroom floor?

[teecee90]

I'm surprised no-one else has commented on the complete absence of oil, grease, dirt or other crap on any single component of the bike in those photos. 

Seriously, when was the last time you saw the underside of a Fazer look that clean unless it was sitting new on the showroom floor?

Everything got a good clean when I took the swing arm off. Hate working on greasy filthy components.

[Capt]

Hi just wondering what spring rate you ended up with based on your rider weight and if you have set up your sag settings, what pre load did you end up with to get them?


I just fitted an R1 and still having issues over the spring rate they recommended, also the video on there website changing the spring yourself is wrong, [size=78%]it can’t be done on this model anyway.[/size]

[easym5]

Hi where did you get the alloy swingarm bungs/caps from,cheers

[Timbo]

Ooh oooooh .... so very nice. I have Nitron on my Tiger Sport.


I am very tempted to do the same for the Fazer ... enjoy. Have you had the forks modified at all.


P.S very clean too ... Royal Navy standard cleaning there! Top man 

[teecee90]

Hi just wondering what spring rate you ended up with based on your rider weight and if you have set up your sag settings, what pre load did you end up with to get them?


I just fitted an R1 and still having issues over the spring rate they recommended, also the video on there website changing the spring yourself is wrong, [size=78%]it can’t be done on this model anyway.[/size]

According to the service sheet the spring rate is 525lb. Rider weight with kit is 84kg, pillion weight with kit 54kg.


My local supplier fitted the shock and did all the set-up for me ..... http://www.tyres4bikes.co.uk

[teecee90]

Hi where did you get the alloy swingarm bungs/caps from,cheers

Ebay - from a breaker.

[teecee90]

Ooh oooooh .... so very nice. I have Nitron on my Tiger Sport.I am very tempted to do the same for the Fazer ... enjoy. Have you had the forks modified at all.P.S very clean too ... Royal Navy standard cleaning there! Top man 

I overhauled the forks in the winter. New seals, bushes, oil and Hyperpro progressive springs.

[Timbo]

Standard dog-bones or modified?

[celticbiker]

Hi just wondering what spring rate you ended up with based on your rider weight and if you have set up your sag settings, what pre load did you end up with to get them?


I just fitted an R1 and still having issues over the spring rate they recommended, also the video on there website changing the spring yourself is wrong, [size=78%]it can’t be done on this model anyway.[/size]

According to the service sheet the spring rate is 525lb. Rider weight with kit is 84kg, pillion weight with kit 54kg.


My local supplier fitted the shock and did all the set-up for me ..... http://www.tyres4bikes.co.uk

How can the local dealer 'set up' the the rear shock for you?
He doesn't know your
Front rear weight balance preference
Braking technique
Weight transfer speed/control preference under braking and acceleration
Did he ask about your tyre choices ( stiffer or softer side wall)
Indeed did he ask you anything?
Shock set up is not a game, your life can depend on it!
You can lose the front under braking if the rebound is wrong or under acceleration if the compression is wrong.
There are a million ways it can go wrong when you trust someone else with the set up.
If he isn't YOUR mechanic and he hasn't spent hundreds of hours working and talking to you he can't know how to set up your shock only you can do it correctly.

[teecee90]

Hi just wondering what spring rate you ended up with based on your rider weight and if you have set up your sag settings, what pre load did you end up with to get them?


I just fitted an R1 and still having issues over the spring rate they recommended, also the video on there website changing the spring yourself is wrong, [size=78%]it can’t be done on this model anyway.[/size]

According to the service sheet the spring rate is 525lb. Rider weight with kit is 84kg, pillion weight with kit 54kg.


My local supplier fitted the shock and did all the set-up for me ..... http://www.tyres4bikes.co.uk

How can the local dealer 'set up' the the rear shock for you?
He doesn't know your
Front rear weight balance preference
Braking technique
Weight transfer speed/control preference under braking and acceleration
Did he ask about your tyre choices ( stiffer or softer side wall)
Indeed did he ask you anything?
Shock set up is not a game, your life can depend on it!
You can lose the front under braking if the rebound is wrong or under acceleration if the compression is wrong.
There are a million ways it can go wrong when you trust someone else with the set up.
If he isn't YOUR mechanic and he hasn't spent hundreds of hours working and talking to you he can't know how to set up your shock only you can do it correctly.

He asked lots of questions, took lots of measurements, sent me on test runs and asked questions after each run. All I can tell you is that it worked a treat for me.... handles great now.

[celticbiker]

In that case absolutely well done that man.
Don't find many that go to that trouble and as you didn't mention it I thought I would.
Keep an eye on the tyre wear though, one or two clicks more or less on compression make the difference between squaring off the rear or keeping its profile.

[teecee90]

Standard dog-bones or modified?

Lowering dog bones (I'm a short arse). I had standard bones on with the R6 shock but needed to put the lowering (longer) ones back on for the Nitron as it isn't one of the adjustable ones. The R6 shock is shorter than the stock shock so standard bones worked fine.

[teecee90]

Decided to change the bottom bolt after all. Plenty of clearance now. Better safe than sorry....

[celticbiker]

Keeps you awake at night doesn't it?

[kralik]

very, very nice and clean, overall!


enjoy!

[teecee90]

I've informed my insurance company (Bennetts) about the shock upgrade and they have sent me a bunch of questions before deciding the impact on my premium. One of the question is....and I quote.... "Whether there has been any increase in power or BHP and by how much"


Unbelievable ....I thought Bennetts specialised in bike insurance.... 

[old son]

Maybe they sent you a generic form? I'm sure some riders upgrade their engines and they would receive the same form.

[teecee90]

Maybe they sent you a generic form? I'm sure some riders upgrade their engines and they would receive the same form.

True, although you would think they would be able to apply a little bit of common sense.


To be fair to them, they have now confirmed that there is no change to my current premium and no admin charge for updating the policy. I bet it will affect my renewal price though (due in a couple of weeks time).

[Gnasher]

There's no need to tell them about shocks or fork upgrades, you can't ride the bike without either of them they aren't additions.   They don't enhance performance, albeit, you be able to ride slightly faster over any given stretch of road, but power isn't increased.

Even additions that don't enhance power like legle end cans (providing they cost no more the a standard system) most companies aren't interested.  Things like screens, heated grips, tail tidy, luggage systems, rearsets, air filter changes, huggers, steering damper, crash bungs/bars, brake hoses.