The Covid thread

[YamFazFan]

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[fazersharp]

At the time there was no approved hotels in Turkey for the purpose of quarantine. And tourists had no restrictions once there so it was "just like an extra Holiday" they may well of tested negative before arrival in Turkey but than caught it there during their "extended Holiday" and then not isolated for the 10 days at home like they should.   

Not true. Travellers from India required to stay 14 days in approved dormitories
https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/europe/perfectly-legal-uk-citizens-flouting-hotel-quarantine-by-flying-to-turkey-1.1218009

Travellers from Pakistan did not need to stay in designated dormitories 

Here from your link

But the deals are causing anger in Turkey, where a 7pm curfew is in place until May 17. Everyone entering Turkey must present a negative Covid-19 test, but only travellers from India are required to quarantine for 14 days in designated dormitories. Most tourists on short-term stays are exempt from the curfew.

Also from your link 

Vision Travels and Tours, also based in Pakistan but which lists a UK phone number, tells travellers: “No worries, be happy … travel back to UK from Pakistan and have holidays in Turkey during Covid 2021.”

  “No worries, be happy … travel back to UK from Pakistan and have holidays in Turkey during Covid 2021.”
Murat Emir, a deputy with Turkey’s main opposition party, questioned how many travellers from Pakistan and India had used the loophole to “wander around freely” before travelling to Britain. He suggested the quarantine requirement on travellers was not being applied consistently in Turkey.
“British citizens coming to Turkey from Pakistan can wander around freely, causing the Indian variant to spread here,” he said.

[fazersharp]

I would of thought that If they can afford to go in the first place they should be able to afford to properly quarantine

Yep that's what I told you. £600 per person to quarantine in an approved hotel in Turkey, plus negative tests before and after, as opposed to £1750 to do the same in the UK. So for a family of 4 that's a difference of £4600. Plus, legally you have been tested as negative earlier.
And you wouldn't do that?

No because I wouldn't be traveling abroard in the first place. Why do you keep defending these people who are ‐ in the first place being irresponsible in traveling anyway and then deliberately circumventing measures put in place to try and protect our population.
 Especially when you are quick to jump on those people who thought it would be safe and an open space to go to the beach, just so happens that a lot of other people thought the same thing at the same time. Those people were getting out for some fresh air after dutifully staying g at home.
Contrast that to ‐-  [size=0px]  [/size][/size][size=0px]“No worries, be happy … travel back to UK from Pakistan and have holidays in Turkey during Covid 2021.”[/size]

[mtread]

Odd how the left were so keen to follow the results table when the UK had the worst fatality figures in Europe, yet when we flew ahead on the vaccine rollout they keep saying how 'it isn't a race' and 'no one is safe until we're all safe'

Yes the NHS have done a fantastic job with the vaccine rollout. All that on a 1% increase in pay.
Just as well the job wasn't given to a private contractor like Serco. Otherwise it would have been another Test and Trace disaster, costing billions

[mtread]

With the vast majority of the elderly and vulnerable now vaccinated, surely there shouldn't be all that many people who end up hospitalised on a ventilator now.

In line with the fewer who need to self isolate now.

[mtread]

No because I wouldn't be traveling abroard in the first place. Why do you keep defending these people who are ‐ in the first place being irresponsible in traveling anyway and then deliberately circumventing measures put in place to try and protect our population. Especially when you are quick to jump on those people who thought it would be safe and an open space to go to the beach, just so happens that a lot of other people thought the same thing at the same time. Those people were getting out for some fresh air after dutifully staying g at home.

I'm not defending anybody. I'm pointing out that there are a large number of areas of risk and reasons for spread. Rather than targeting just one group.....

[mtread]

Travellers from Pakistan did not need to stay in designated dormitories 

I thought we were talking about the Indian Variant 
Don't think there is a 'Pakistani Variant'.  They are two different countries you know.

[fazersharp]

Travellers from Pakistan did not need to stay in designated dormitories 

I thought we were talking about the Indian Variant 
Don't think there is a 'Pakistani Variant'.  They are two different countries you know.

Ah that's ok then I don't need to worry about the Indian variant as clearly it doesn't like country borders.

[fazersharp]

No because I wouldn't be traveling abroard in the first place. Why do you keep defending these people who are ‐ in the first place being irresponsible in traveling anyway and then deliberately circumventing measures put in place to try and protect our population. Especially when you are quick to jump on those people who thought it would be safe and an open space to go to the beach, just so happens that a lot of other people thought the same thing at the same time. Those people were getting out for some fresh air after dutifully staying g at home.

I'm not defending anybody. I'm pointing out that there are a large number of areas of risk and reasons for spread. Rather than targeting just one group.....

Not targeting anyone. I looked at the BBC and Sky for an explanation why the same towns were always the same ones when it comes to covid and couldn't find anything apart from the story about people bypassing quarantine. Its not my fault they were all from one group. 

[YamFazFan]

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[YamFazFan]

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[fazersharp]

Stand by ----- Borris is about to do what I said yesterday and lock down Bolton and others.
 At the very least the coming May 17th will be put on hold (not that keeping the pubs shut will bother the "locals" )   

[mtread]

Yet if it had been a monumental foc-up like in the EU, it'd have been Boris's, sorry Johnson's, fault wouldn't it

His name isn't even 'Boris' 

[YamFazFan]

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[fazersharp]

Well he bottled it, missed the chance to contain this, I can see why though as mtread so obligingly demonstrated he dosent want to be accused of.
 

targeting just one group.....

[mtread]

Next you'll be telling me Starmer's name isn't 'Sir'

 
Not sure. He hasn't got a County Court Judgement we could check against 

[fazersharp]

Next you'll be telling me Starmer's name isn't 'Sir'

 
Not sure. He hasn't got a County Court Judgement we could check against 

Ah yes the conspiracy theorist who is a serial claimant who has also launched legal actions against Marks and Spencer, Royal Mail, Chancellor Rishi Sunak and numerous public companies.
Her claim was for defamation.
For £25 anyone can make a claim against anyone and if it is left unanswered it will stand against you.
Needs fixing. She should be prosecuted for wasting court's and the PMs time.

[YamFazFan]

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[mtread]

It'll still have his real name on it though. Otherwise it certainly would be invalid 

[YamFazFan]

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[fazersharp]

It seems that the goal posts are on wheels. This Pakistani variant as Mtread calls it  -looks like it has stuffed the Gov and sage into a state of oregano. On one hand we were told take the vax and life can normalise, on the other we have the Pakistani variant ( Mtreads words )

'Pakistani Variant'

But the Gov cannot just lock down the areas involved for fear of being accused of

targeting just one group.....

But if it all runs out of control and we are forced to lock down again -the general covid law abiding public will blame those communities. So the gov have played the only card they have which is to send in the army and tests test test and vaccinate the sh1t out of them. 

[YamFazFan]

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[fazersharp]

Can't they just make vaccination compulsory unless the individual concerned has got a valid medical exemption?.

It will be but by the back door ( oooh stop making your own jokes) so it will not be compulsory as such but without a vax passport you will not be able to to anything that normal society used to do. Go on holiday, get a mortgage, see a gp, go to the pub - restaurant --- ect     

[YamFazFan]

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