caroline flack

[YamFazFan]

I'd spend a bit more time examining why your beloved Labour party, who have the answer to everything, were led to their heaviest defeat since the 1930's if I were you Grahamm.
It's all very well constantly carping and whining about the incumbent Tory government but don't you think Labour should have been offering a credible, effective, alternative government instead of an unelectable, far left cult led by a Marxist who's stuck in the 1970's?.
Oh of course I forgot, the voters "Got it wrong again"

[YamFazFan]

Or the constant stupid and unfunny/offensive cartoons against Boris Johnson which could quite easily be classed as bullying.
In fact it really is thinking about it.

My, my, imagine that, bullying a bully, a racist, a homophobic and misogynistic racist liar.

..and how useless must that mean the official opposition is if they go down to their heaviest defeat since the 1930's against such a man?.

[darrsi]

I'd spend a bit more time examining why your beloved Labour party, who have the answer to everything, were led to their heaviest defeat since the 1930's if I were you Grahamm.
It's all very well constantly carping and whining about the incumbent Tory government but don't you think Labour should have been offering a credible, effective, alternative government instead of an unelectable, far left cult led by a Marxist who's stuck in the 1970's?.
Oh of course I forgot, the voters "Got it wrong again"

Wasting your breath with these few, as was quite apparent months ago.

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Oh of course I forgot, the voters "Got it wrong again"

It's a Tory government, lead, yes, by a homophobic and misogynistic racist liar.  Strange things, not surprisingly are happening, as nationalism and patriotism sweeps across England.

Oh of course I forgot, the voters "Got it wrong again"

Do try and remember that this a government elected by England.  Here this might help.......

[Grahamm]

I'd spend a bit more time (blah blah blah)

Ah, so we've gone from shooting the messenger to an ad hominem attack on me.

Fabulous technique!

Oh and, by the way, they're not MY "Beloved Labour Party". I'm not a Labour member. I'm not even a Labour supporter. What I *am* is someone who opposes the current Tory Party because of the mess they have got this country into.

[darrsi]

I'd spend a bit more time (blah blah blah)

Ah, so we've gone from shooting the messenger to an ad hominem attack on me.

Fabulous technique!

Oh and, by the way, they're not MY "Beloved Labour Party". I'm not a Labour member. I'm not even a Labour supporter. What I *am* is someone who opposes the current Tory Party because of the mess they have got this country into.

A bit like the small fact that i'm not a supporter of ANY party, as i have made it quite obvious from an early stage that i can't stand any of these politicians whatsoever, because they are most certainly all made from a similar mould, it's just that some are clearly more incompetent than the others.
Whether Boris Johnson appears to be fucking things up in a big way, lying about whatever, or not keeping promises in an impossible and thankless job, i do strongly believe that if Corbyn was in his shoes then he would fuck things up even more.   
It was a no win scenario this time around when the voting was going on, and the most accurate description i ever read was on here when it was suggested it was like choosing whether to cut your throat or your wrists!
I don't know what kind of scenario you have in your mind if Steptoe had been put in charge, but i just can't see why you'd think he could do any better than the shower of shite we have now?
Remember, HE is the sole reason Labour got the worst results ever.
If any of the Labour Party had any savvy whatsoever, they'd have binned him years ago, but no, they let him bring the whole party down even though historically his background was appalling.

[darrsi]

So, when presented with evidence, one person decides they don't like the message, so they're going to shoot the messenger and the other one can't be bothered to even look at it, because that would involve a bit of effort (despite the fact that there's a simple 16 line Abstract at the top which tells you everything you need to know about the article).

Now *what* does that remind me of...?? 

Ok, whatever, i can live with that.
We're having a quickfire discussion, and i'll openly admit i can't be arsed reading a novel length borefest of uninteresting scripture.
I don't want to, i don't need to, so i just won't.

[YamFazFan]

I'd spend a bit more time (blah blah blah)

Ah, so we've gone from shooting the messenger to an ad hominem attack on me.

Fabulous technique!

Oh and, by the way, they're not MY "Beloved Labour Party". I'm not a Labour member. I'm not even a Labour supporter. What I *am* is someone who opposes the current Tory Party because of the mess they have got this country into.

OK. We've heard what you're against. Now who, or what, is your solution to to 'the mess'?.

[YamFazFan]

Oh of course I forgot, the voters "Got it wrong again"

It's a Tory government, lead, yes, by a homophobic and misogynistic racist liar.  Strange things, not surprisingly are happening, as nationalism and patriotism sweeps across England.

Oh of course I forgot, the voters "Got it wrong again"

Do try and remember that this a government elected by England.  Here this might help.......

So it's alright when nationalism and patriotism sweeps across Scotland then?

[agricola]

and as I predicted in another thread, the 3 Amigos continue to pollute other threads with shite.

[ogri48]

yup. it was about caroline flack, wasn't it originally? im just giving up on threads once they turn to boris/Brexit bashing. its fucking ridiculous.

[VNA - BMW Wank]

 

So it's alright when nationalism and patriotism sweeps across Scotland then?

Nationalism most certainly has not swept across Scotland.  There is a world of difference between an inclusive movement for self-determination and home rule, which has swept across Scotland, and indeed has strengthened as a result of BREXIT, and the nationalism that is sweeping across England.
 

[VNA - BMW Wank]

yup. it was about caroline flack, wasn't it originally?

Yup YamFazFan decided to make it about Boris, The Labour Party and a general election.

[steve 10562cc]

Perhaps the English have had enough of mouthy know all Scots

[YamFazFan]

yup. it was about caroline flack, wasn't it originally?

Yup YamFazFan decided to make it about Boris, The Labour Party and a general election.

Grahamm tried to politicise it first with a dig at the Conservative government in his post #41. My posts were a response to that.

[Grahamm]

Remember, HE is the sole reason Labour got the worst results ever.

No, HE is the ONLY person or thing that you are heaping all the blame on.

And the Brexit topic is over there ---->

[Grahamm]

who, or what, is your solution to to 'the mess'?.

You already know the answer to that, but you won't accept it "Because DEMOCRACY!!!11111!!!!oneoneoneeleventyone!!!111!!!"

And, as I've said to darrsi the Brexit topic is that way ---->

[darrsi]

On a more relevant side note, i just read that Kirk Douglas left his entire $61million fortune to charity.
That's a very generous thing to do, and it's not like his immediate family was short of a few quid, but i think i would've left some to them regardless if it was me.

[YamFazFan]

who, or what, is your solution to to 'the mess'?.

You already know the answer to that, but you won't accept it "Because DEMOCRACY!!!11111!!!!oneoneoneeleventyone!!!111!!!"

Nope, can't fathom what any of that is supposed to mean

[fazersharp]

On a more relevant side note, i just read that Kirk Douglas left his entire $61million fortune to charity.
That's a very generous thing to do, and it's not like his immediate family was short of a few quid, but i think i would've left some to them regardless if it was me.

Not a lot really I would of thought he had a bit more than that. If he was sparticus today in a movie he would be paid 61M for one film.

[darrsi]

On a more relevant side note, i just read that Kirk Douglas left his entire $61million fortune to charity.
That's a very generous thing to do, and it's not like his immediate family was short of a few quid, but i think i would've left some to them regardless if it was me.

Not a lot really I would of thought he had a bit more than that. If he was sparticus today in a movie he would be paid 61M for one film.

Family friend of ours scored a goal in a very early 1960's FA Cup Final match, i'm sure i remember him saying he was on about £30 a week wages back then.


Michael Douglas is worth about $300million, so he hasn't done too bad either.

[robbo]

Up until December 1960, the FA had a maximum wage ceiling of £20 a week for footballers, so early 60's and 30 quid a week is very likely. Johnny Haynes became the first £100 a week player after the players union, led by Jimmy Hill, overturned the FA maximum wage ruling in January 1961.

[darrsi]

Up until December 1960, the FA had a maximum wage ceiling of £20 a week for footballers, so early 60's and 30 quid a week is very likely. Johnny Haynes became the first £100 a week player after the players union, led by Jimmy Hill, overturned the FA maximum wage ruling in January 1961.

Money these days for football, and boxing, is obscene.

[YamFazFan]

who, or what, is your solution to to 'the mess'?.

You already know the answer to that, but you won't accept it "Because DEMOCRACY!!!11111!!!!oneoneoneeleventyone!!!111!!!"

Nope, can't fathom what any of that is supposed to mean

...I'll take that as 'No I don't have an alternative solution' then

[Grahamm]

You can take it as anything you want. It doesn't make you right.

The answer is obvious (to anyone who isn't wedded to an ideology).
PS And the answer can be found in that thread over there --->