Author Topic: How to get away with murder: Be an American Diplomat's wife... (Read 22796 times)

mtread · « **Reply #125 on:** 28 May 2020, 10:59:38 pm »

Harry Dunn's family to bring a private prosecution against Dominic Raab

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/may/28/family-of-harry-dunn-to-bring-private-prosecution-against-dominic-raab

They claim that Raab did not have the authority to allow Anne Sacoolas to return to America after the incident, while there was an ongoing police investigation and while the issue of her diplomatic immunity had not been resolved. They also allege that Raab misled parliament in statements he made about Sacoolas’s return to America.

mtread · « **Reply #126 on:** 18 June 2020, 04:51:27 pm »

High Court stops Government releasing Foreign Office documents

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/18/harry-dunns-parents-setback-legal-action-against-foreign-office

darrsi · « **Reply #127 on:** 11 September 2020, 08:42:17 am »

So she's now admitted driving on the wrong side of the road, and is considering a "virtual trial" which will obviously be from the safety of America.
Not quite sure what that accomplishes if she's found guilty, because i can't see her rushing over here in a hurry to deal with any sentencing?

Oh, i just read that the parents will only take part in a virtual trial if it's under UK Law and she agrees to serve or deal with any sentence that may be given, if found guilty obviously.

Can't see that happening!

mtread · « **Reply #128 on:** 12 September 2020, 04:30:16 pm »

Odd that she should now publicly admit an offense, from the safety of the US of course. I think there is more of this to come.

mtread · « **Reply #129 on:** 11 November 2020, 03:32:04 pm »

Foreign Office looking rather complicit

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-54904234

Grahamm · « **Reply #130 on:** 11 November 2020, 06:06:01 pm »

The family have said that they "feel hopeful" now that Biden is going to be President, but I think those hopes will be dashed quickly.

Yes, Biden isn't Trump, but he's still going to look after American citizens first...

mtread · « **Reply #131 on:** 11 November 2020, 07:04:52 pm »

I agree. The problem (and the current court case) is the Foreign Office. At best they took their eye off the ball. At worst they are complicit.

Oldgit · « **Reply #132 on:** 12 November 2020, 10:19:37 am »

Special Relationship with Hamerica????

mtread · « **Reply #133 on:** 03 February 2021, 11:46:04 pm »

So now it appears that Ann Sacoolas did work for US Intelligence, and was not 'merely the wife of a serving military'. So the anomaly that she was covered by diplomatic immunity for criminal acts never applied.

This whole thing continues to stink.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-55927568

Oldgit · « **Reply #134 on:** 05 February 2021, 10:35:30 am »

Or even better still have a name like Blair or Bush.

mtread · « **Reply #135 on:** 05 February 2021, 02:17:07 pm »

It proves one country was lying.

Either the UK knew she was staff and didn't have immunity, and was complicit in getting her out of the UK.
Or the US lied to the UK about her role, so she could leave without the UK's interference.

The so called 'Special Relationship' is we are America's lapdog.

agricola · « **Reply #136 on:** 05 February 2021, 08:36:25 pm »

and, of course, we have "diplomats" doing similar stuff in most other countries around the world, all with immunity. The system is rotten, but is not going change. Id be in favour of a bit of extraordinary rendition, but that would shake the relationship wouldnt it

fazersharp · « **Reply #137 on:** 05 February 2021, 10:06:37 pm »

Quote from: agricola on 05 February 2021, 08:36:25 pm

The system is rotten, but is not going change. Id be in favour of a bit of extraordinary rendition,

Can't we do what the Americans would do and employ a drone

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Streetbudgie · « **Reply #138 on:** 11 February 2021, 11:11:08 am »

Oops, just noticed somebody already said she worked for the CIA

b1k3rdude · « **Reply #139 on:** 06 March 2021, 08:35:24 am »

So it looks like a US judge has allowed civil proceed against her in the US -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-us-canada-56246511?

mtread · « **Reply #140 on:** 06 March 2021, 02:18:55 pm »

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So it looks like a US judge has allowed civil proceed against her in the US -

and her husband, for allowing her to use his car.

fazersharp · « **Reply #141 on:** 06 March 2021, 03:04:45 pm »

Quote from: mtread on 06 March 2021, 02:18:55 pm

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So it looks like a US judge has allowed civil proceed against her in the US -
and her husband, for allowing her to use his car.

It really irritates me how in the news whenever they talk about it that it is introduced as Harry Dunn who dies in a MOTORCYCLE ACCIDENT. Conscious bias.

mtread · « **Reply #142 on:** 06 March 2021, 03:27:36 pm »

Indeed. If he'd been cycling when she killed him on the wrong side of the road, would they have called it a BICYCLE ACCIDENT?

mtread · « **Reply #143 on:** 09 March 2021, 10:27:54 am »

'' Sacoolas would be prepared to do community service in the US " - You don't get to decide the punishment.

'' If it had happened in the US, it wouldn't be a criminal offence" - It didn't

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-56326406

Grahamm · « **Reply #144 on:** 09 March 2021, 12:58:03 pm »

Quote from: mtread on 09 March 2021, 10:27:54 am

'' If it had happened in the US, it wouldn't be a criminal offence" - It didn't

WTF? Wow! That's a great idea, commit a crime in one country, then try to get off because it isn't a crime where you come from...

BBROWN1664 · « **Reply #145 on:** 09 March 2021, 01:54:20 pm »

Quote from: Grahamm on 09 March 2021, 12:58:03 pm

Quote from: mtread on 09 March 2021, 10:27:54 am
'' If it had happened in the UK, it wouldn't be a criminal offence" - It didn't
WTF? Wow! That's a great idea, commit a crime in one country, then try to get off because it isn't a crime where you come from...

Modified it to fit Prince Andrews circumstances now

mtread · « **Reply #146 on:** 13 December 2021, 05:41:54 pm »

Probably by video link, I would think

BBC News - Harry Dunn crash: Anne Sacoolas to face Westminster magistrates
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-59643750

BBROWN1664 · « **Reply #147 on:** 13 December 2021, 05:46:38 pm »

Quote from: mtread on 13 December 2021, 05:41:54 pm

Probably by video link, I would think

BBC News - Harry Dunn crash: Anne Sacoolas to face Westminster magistrates
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-59643750

Grahamm · « **Reply #148 on:** 13 December 2021, 09:05:51 pm »

There seems to be some confusion because:

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The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) said Mrs Sacoolas' case would go before magistrates next month.

Her lawyers denied reports the 44-year-old would attend via video link and said no such agreement had been made.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-59643750

beuleux · « **Reply #149 on:** 04 January 2022, 02:18:49 am »

The whole thing was a balls up from the start given that the driver wasn't even covered by diplomatic immunity which was pointed out after the event, if you want to get away with murder simply become a prime minister or a president then you can get away with it on a massive scale