Author Topic: 6 million memories (Read 5295 times)

slappy · « **Reply #25 on:** 15 March 2019, 04:32:40 pm »

I know very well why, how and who it was done by, I don't need you to remind me. Keep the your political point scoring for the other threads, not this one.

mtread · « **Reply #26 on:** 15 March 2019, 04:43:30 pm »

Pathetic. I won't even bother to reply......

steve 10562cc · « **Reply #27 on:** 15 March 2019, 05:47:12 pm »

Well that will be refreshing, this thread is not for your political point scoring it's to remember and show respect to all those that died

mtread · « **Reply #28 on:** 15 March 2019, 07:57:19 pm »

Look, if you've ever been to Auschwitz or the Schindler Museum or seen the empty square in the Kazimierz quarter, you'd know that the memorials are not just about shedding tears for the victims. They are there to show what led up to the atrocities. How and why they happened. They are about Kristalnacht, the ghetto, the Germans and Poles turning in their Jewish neighbours.

It's not politics, it's about inhumanity and trying to ensure it doesn't happen again.

It looks like both of you could start an argument with yourselves in a locked room. So don't lecture me, just go back to the playground.

steve 10562cc · « **Reply #29 on:** 15 March 2019, 08:10:15 pm »

If you had read my original post you would perhaps realise why I feel so strongly about this I knew one person who was one of the first troops into Belson, and a polish guy I worked with for several years who escaped from a Russian camp which were no better than the German ones.

mtread · « **Reply #30 on:** 15 March 2019, 08:14:56 pm »

I did, and I fully understand why you feel so strongly.

But the points I were making were not political, far from it

coffee · « **Reply #31 on:** 15 March 2019, 09:29:34 pm »

'kin hell ,we can't even have a chat about a terrible episode amongst ourselves without starting to get nasty,what about if it was only from something as simple as that that started all the fucking problems in the first place,chill out lads.

mtread · « **Reply #32 on:** 15 March 2019, 10:18:09 pm »

Indeed. It just seems that some like arguing

dazza · « **Reply #33 on:** 16 March 2019, 12:20:00 am »

If you had any genuine respect or humility or a desire not to start an argument mtread you would have just kept quiet and left it alone ages ago instead of trying to continually have the last word.
It's not always just about you you know and your desire to portray yourself as some sort of self righteous defender of what you deem to be the truth.
It would appear that no human tragedy is off limits to you two for you to attempt what was accurately described as political point scoring.
Just leave it man, have some respect.

VNA - BMW Wank · « **Reply #34 on:** 16 March 2019, 01:01:03 am »

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It's not always just about you you know and your desire to portray yourself as some sort of self righteous defender of what you deem to be the truth.

So says Dazza who keeps posting facist propaganda on this forum.

VNA - BMW Wank · « **Reply #35 on:** 16 March 2019, 01:06:37 am »

Holocuast rememberance day is the 27th of January by the way.

dazza · « **Reply #36 on:** 16 March 2019, 01:25:38 am »

Quote from: VNA on 16 March 2019, 01:01:03 am

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It's not always just about you you know and your desire to portray yourself as some sort of self righteous defender of what you deem to be the truth.
So says Dazza who keeps posting facist propaganda on this forum.

That's a pretty serious accusation to make on a public forum.

However, you're still an idiot.
Now, have some respect as well and leave this topic for genuine people.

mtread · « **Reply #37 on:** 16 March 2019, 09:31:43 am »

Well what a surprise. Dazza scours the forums, finds one he hasn't contributed to, and pops in to try and start another argument, playing the innocent again.

Do us all a favour Dazza, and just shut up.

dazza · « **Reply #38 on:** 17 March 2019, 01:14:05 am »

Quote from: dazza on 16 March 2019, 12:20:00 am

If you had any genuine respect or humility or a desire not to start an argument mtread you would have just kept quiet and left it alone ages ago instead of trying to continually have the last word.
It's not always just about you you know and your desire to portray yourself as some sort of self righteous defender of what you deem to be the truth.
It would appear that no human tragedy is off limits to you two for you to attempt what was accurately described as political point scoring.
Just leave it man, have some respect.

No other words needed

mtread · « **Reply #39 on:** 17 March 2019, 12:02:26 pm »

You've taken my advice then

Bretty · « **Reply #40 on:** 19 March 2019, 07:35:51 am »

The number that gets me is that "between 50 to 70million people died during WW2"... They can't even put a number on it to the nearest 10million!! I try to remember everyone, not just the Jews.

Auschwitz was a labour camp, I would suggest most people visit Bergen Belsen that was a proper horrendous death camp. I managed to walk around Auschwitz, but Bergen Belsen made me physically sick!

mtread · « **Reply #41 on:** 19 March 2019, 09:43:34 am »

Auschwitz 1 was a labour/detention camp. Auschwitz Birkenau (3 km away) was purely an extermination camp. Both still exist and are visited.

I'm sure Bergen-Belsen is just as harrowing

Bretty · « **Reply #42 on:** 19 March 2019, 06:21:56 pm »

It's probably quite sad that I'm interested in, visit and read about all these things.

It's funny how war crimes were quickly forgotten after the war in exchange for knowledge and technology.
For example, It was the German's that put America on the moon. Surprisingly, I didn't see much reference to that when we visited the Kennedy space centre... but it was all technology derived from the development of the V2 missile, the work of Von Braun and the slave labour camps responsible for building them. I've visited these and they are all equally sick.

It's easy to be hypocritical with all these things. I remember hearing some American lady at Auschwitz saying, "How can a nation stand by and let this happen...people held and tortured, without trial or human rights?!". I asked her if she had heard of Guantanamo Bay? Is it really different? We all choose to ignore it, pretend it isn't there, because it suits our interests.

Anyway, Maybe I'm weird...

coffee · « **Reply #43 on:** 19 March 2019, 08:34:01 pm »

The technology maybe,,but do you honestly believe anyone went to the moon,THE MOON,the foccin' moon in 1969,no way,not a chance,never happened and probably never will,the biggest con in history.

not you Bretty,the lying U.S.A.

Bretty · « **Reply #44 on:** 19 March 2019, 09:40:19 pm »

...and erf it be flat.

mtread · « **Reply #45 on:** 20 March 2019, 12:09:25 am »

..... and the world leaders are actually lizards in human form

O hang on a minute, that might be true

coffee · « **Reply #46 on:** 21 March 2019, 08:30:26 pm »

yeah,slimy bastards