Author Topic: ULEZ and how it effects the Gen1: (Read 76721 times)

dazza · « **on:** 30 January 2019, 06:30:36 pm »

Received confirmation today that the NOX output for the Gen1 Fazer thou is 0.09. The limit is 0.15
This means that with a certificate of conformity it is exempt.
Great news for us all I believe.
I'm going to attempt to get the whole model included but as they've asked for engine and chassis number photographs I suspect that it's going to be issued on an individual basis.
I may still have some hoops to jump through as mine was a French import

Here is a copy of the reply email.
Good Afternoon,Thank you we have now been able to identify the machine, the NOx output is 0.09 (g/km). In regards to documentation to confirm this it would be a Certificate of Conformity required, the procedure as follows below.We believe that we are likely to be able to produce a Certificate of Conformity for the FZS1000 we would however ask you to be kind enough to e-mail the following:1)Name2)Full postal address3)Daytime telephone number4)A photograph of the VIN/Chassis Number stamped into the frame of the machine5)A photograph of the Engine Number which will be visible on the engine casing.Once we have the above information, we should be in a position to produce a Certificate of Conformity. Please be advised that being an import once information is presented we will have to request the document from Europe systems, we cannot guarantee the document is available for this imported unit.May we also advise that an administration fee of £60 (inc VAT) is applicable and may be paid by either debit or credit card. Due to the number of requests received, we are currently taking an average of 3-4 weeks once all information has been received to produce the letter and therefore will wait until we have produced a draft of the letter before contacting you by telephone to take your card payment.We once again thank you for contacting us and trust that the above information will be of assistance.

red98 · « **Reply #1 on:** 30 January 2019, 06:38:08 pm »

Good work DAZZA

.....very interested to see the outcome...

b1k3rdude · « **Reply #2 on:** 30 January 2019, 08:11:25 pm »

This is amazing news! who do we contact..? as I want to get mine in before april.

mtread · « **Reply #3 on:** 30 January 2019, 08:33:11 pm »

Fantastic work Dazza. Is yours invanised? Might make a difference

dazza · « **Reply #4 on:** 30 January 2019, 08:44:25 pm »

Quote from: b1k3rdude on 30 January 2019, 08:11:25 pm

This is amazing news! who do we contact..? as I want to get mine in before april.

mailto:Cust.Service@yamaha-motor.co.uk

Quote from: mtread on 30 January 2019, 08:33:11 pm

Fantastic work Dazza. Is yours invanised? Might make a difference

No, standard carbs have gone back on

Trebus · « **Reply #5 on:** 30 January 2019, 10:20:09 pm »

Shouldn’t make any difference as they won’t be testing it? Must be going by ‘as new’ figures.

dazza · « **Reply #6 on:** 30 January 2019, 10:59:34 pm »

That's just a typical mtread response, trying to suck the joy out of everything.
You have to humour him.

mtread · « **Reply #7 on:** 30 January 2019, 11:40:00 pm »

You love me really

red98 · « **Reply #8 on:** 31 January 2019, 06:54:46 am »

If it turns out that our 1 litre fazers fall beneath thr limit and are exempt from charges , surly the majority of bikes on the roads will also be exempt , parhaps not for two strokes , but most modern two strokes are scooters so no loss there and proper two strokes from the 70s are exempt anyway due to classis status , money making scam , bikes should'nt have been included in the first place........

DAZZA FOR PM.........gets my vote

Ripsnortingvtwin · « **Reply #9 on:** 31 January 2019, 08:10:38 am »

this is really good news it was looking like i would have to go by train after April , so pleased the old fazer can still carry on , there nothing wrong with it so really did not want to sell it

thanks for posting this will get mine done today

Fazerjon · « **Reply #10 on:** 31 January 2019, 08:55:08 am »

That’s excellent news, I had visions of having to sell the old Fazer, but now it appears I can keep her! Nice work, thanks for letting us know

mtread · « **Reply #11 on:** 31 January 2019, 10:13:33 am »

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DAZZA FOR PM...

Wait until he's forked out the 60 quid

dazza · « **Reply #12 on:** 31 January 2019, 10:28:27 am »

The charge really is a money making scam.
I can understand the need to clean up our air and protect the children and citizens but 24/7....
Come on, that's just foolish.
Should have been same hours as the congestion charge.
If I were to get two shifts of work, say Monday and Wednesday (which hasn't been uncommon in the past )
I would have to pay 4 days ULEZ as the cut off time is midnight to midnight.
What a load of bollocks that is.
A work colleague who lives in London has got round it by buying a 2006 Peugeot 208GTI for£600.
Lucky if it does 28MPG and yet older bikes are allegedly not compliant.
I rarely take my bike into London these days but going to get it exempted just to stick it to Khan and TFL.
And mtread, if you've got nothing positive to say...Get the foc off my thread.

mtread · « **Reply #13 on:** 31 January 2019, 10:48:31 am »

OK. I agree with everything you've said

tommyardin · « **Reply #14 on:** 31 January 2019, 11:43:38 am »

Quote from: red98 on 31 January 2019, 06:54:46 am

If it turns out that our 1 litre fazers fall beneath thr limit and are exempt from charges , surly the majority of bikes on the roads will also be exempt , parhaps not for two strokes , but most modern two strokes are scooters so no loss there and proper two strokes from the 70s are exempt anyway due to classis status , money making scam , bikes should'nt have been included in the first place........

DAZZA FOR PM.........gets my vote

mtread thinks that means Post Mortem

mtread · « **Reply #15 on:** 31 January 2019, 01:41:21 pm »

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mtread thinks that means Post Mortem

Dazza's Alive! (Brian Blessed)

old son · « **Reply #16 on:** 31 January 2019, 04:20:20 pm »

Let's all keep our fingers crossed until the first C of C is received. I'm optimistic but have been stung before!! Dazza, whatever happens, thanks mate. I hate Khan and agree it stinks of a money making venture so Khan is left with a legacy. Twat!!

agricola · « **Reply #17 on:** 31 January 2019, 07:36:49 pm »

Quote from: dazza on 30 January 2019, 06:30:36 pm

Received confirmation today that the NOX output for the Gen1 Fazer thou is 0.09. The limit is 0.15
This means that with a certificate of conformity it is exempt.
Great news for us all I believe.
I'm going to attempt to get the whole model included but as they've asked for engine and chassis number photographs I suspect that it's going to be issued on an individual basis.
I may still have some hoops to jump through as mine was a French import

Here is a copy of the reply email.
Good Afternoon,Thank you we have now been able to identify the machine, the NOx output is 0.09 (g/km). In regards to documentation to confirm this it would be a Certificate of Conformity required, the procedure as follows below.We believe that we are likely to be able to produce a Certificate of Conformity for the FZS1000 we would however ask you to be kind enough to e-mail the following:1)Name2)Full postal address3)Daytime telephone number4)A photograph of the VIN/Chassis Number stamped into the frame of the machine5)A photograph of the Engine Number which will be visible on the engine casing.Once we have the above information, we should be in a position to produce a Certificate of Conformity. Please be advised that being an import once information is presented we will have to request the document from Europe systems, we cannot guarantee the document is available for this imported unit.May we also advise that an administration fee of £60 (inc VAT) is applicable and may be paid by either debit or credit card. Due to the number of requests received, we are currently taking an average of 3-4 weeks once all information has been received to produce the letter and therefore will wait until we have produced a draft of the letter before contacting you by telephone to take your card payment.We once again thank you for contacting us and trust that the above information will be of assistance.

Great work, well done.

PieEater · « **Reply #18 on:** 01 February 2019, 04:34:46 pm »

WTF is this thread about?

Falcon 269 · « **Reply #19 on:** 01 February 2019, 05:31:43 pm »

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emission-zone/motorcycles-mopeds-and-more?intcmp=54365

robbo · « **Reply #20 on:** 01 February 2019, 07:43:19 pm »

L

Quote from: PieEater on 01 February 2019, 04:34:46 pm

WTF is this thread about?

If you don't commute into London, don't worry about it.

Dynspud · « **Reply #21 on:** 01 February 2019, 07:45:29 pm »

.............yet

slappy · « **Reply #22 on:** 01 February 2019, 08:16:29 pm »

Quote from: Dynspud on 01 February 2019, 07:45:29 pm

.............yet

Exactly, Leeds has just announced its Clean Air Zone ( CAZ ) will start in January 2020.
£50 a day for buses, lorries and hgv that don't meet the emissions target and £50 a week for taxis and private hire vehicles.
No private vehicle charges yet but that won't be far behind.

b1k3rdude · « **Reply #23 on:** 01 February 2019, 10:13:42 pm »

So I contacted Yamaha UK, and because mine was originally a US model it was never tested. The BS of it all is the US/UK/Euro versions of the FZS1000 are all the fucking same in the carb, ignition dept.

dazza · « **Reply #24 on:** 02 February 2019, 12:46:59 am »

I feel your pain bikerdude. That's what modern life is all about.... Complete BS where ever you turn.
Someone posted this thread on the FB page with good intentions and all of a sudden, It's a scam !

The thing is, I hardly go into London on my bike now, maybe once or twice a year.
I was willing to stump up the 60 rubs just to give it to TFL and Khan but when you've got your own biking community coming out with shit like this, even people that know you.
It makes me think, fuck it, let someone else do it.
Why have I felt the need to explain myself to fuckwits when my intentions were good.
Everyone seems to think they can sit back and let someone else sort it and any one who has been proactive and done something, gets accused of being a scammer.
It's beyond me. And as far as I'm concerned ...... Well, we'll see what I decided to do when Yamaha contact me again.

All I will say is, I've also been in contact with TFL to get the whole model exempted.
If I don't go through with it, you can thank the fuckwits on FB.