Quote from: VNA on Today at 10:08:56 PM<blockquote>Quote<blockquote>The EU is an almost never ending project towards creating a European super-state and all that entails.</blockquote>That’s just meaningless rhetoric. In any case the EU is never going to become a super state. And if you want to guarantee that such a fantasy never happens, well stay in so you can veto what will never be proposed.
</blockquote>It is pretty much the stated direction of the EU with integration deepening. Junker wants a bigger EU budget and his dream is to have a directly-elected president of the EU.In his recent state of the union speech Junker appealed to MEPs and heads of government to give the EU the powers and characteristics traditionally restricted to states.
The EU wants its own foreign policy with decisions made on the basis of a qualified majority vote in which the will of 55% of member states would win the day. So our so called "veto" is an impotent joke. And path to a superstate is not one leap that can be vetoed but a series of smaller steps leading to the final goal.
Even Juncker himself has conceded that the EU was “imperfect”. « Last Edit: Today at 11:00:58 PM »
Who doesn’t want a bigger budget.
directly-elected president of the EU?
But that’s what you want. Isn’t it? Or can you not now make up your mind.
Juncker expressed many hopes and visons in that speech, as is his right, and a lot of it good stuff too.
But
1. what are these powers and characteristics traditionally restricted to states
2. How do you think that is going to be agreed?
The EU comprises of 28 members. The EU is it’s members. I don’t think you’ll get one member to agree to a majority vote forgein policy never mind 28. Of course whatever that is. Juncker can dream all he wants.
So you are saying that you want to leave the EU, for reasons concerning issues that have yet to happen, and quite frankly never will happen. Not to mention the only way you can guarantee that, (I can't believe I'm saying this
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) what is not going to happen, is not going to happen, is by continued membership.The VETO.