in truth, I think the political arguing on here isn't too bad...most attack the opinion rather than the individual, which is how it should be. I got a mate in Northumberland who is politically the polar opposite of me, and Christ do we give each other grief over it when we are feeling "baity", but hes still one of me best mates. And the end of the day, were all just blokes with individual opinions based upon how stuff has affected us or our areas/families, and none of us are enemies, real or imagined