cheers guys, really good to get to know you both a bit more and a bloody good day. Dave those leds came from a thread on here mate, ill try and find it..bought them on amazon, they weren't cheap (sixty quid the pair I think) but are far superior to the cheaper ones ive bought since for the Harley, cb, and transit, which are ok on dip but hardly any different on full beam! the fazer ones have transformed my winter commute, especially when its dark, wet, misty, raining and you've got some twat with a cyclops headlight behind you filling your mirrors with dazzle lol..gotta get me some barkbusters, they look bloody good tot. Steve watching you throw your bike into corners its both reassuring and v nice to know I got a set of them avon 3dxms coming for me cb, they couldn't have had a better testimonial mate..