It was the same with the gay community 51% of the population said it's OK so you don't have
As a young man at the time of the 67 Act, with a keen interest in politics and economics at the time, I can tell you that it wasn't popular opinion that led to the Act.to go to jail anymore.
I’m a bit at a loss that Tommy seems to think the UK is run by referendum, and not as it had been for quite some time a representative democracy. Representative democracies still have to take note of public opinion but do not necessarily have to abide by popular public opinion. And representative democracy is far far better then relying on referendums to make policy decisions.
So as Agricola points out the 1967 act in England and Wales had foc all to do with public opinion. Indeed, far far from it.
You can of course dig out all sorts of statics over the years on gay rights, and even today the ignorant views as displayed here by you Tommy are not that uncommon (though that will change steadily with time as the older generations die off).
But for example, one stat from a poll is that in 1975 16% supported gay marriage. By 2014 that figure had risen to just short of 69%.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2013/05/20/voters-back-same-sex-marriage/ Also the 1967 act may have decriminalised homosexual activity between men but it sure didn’t end discrimination, and if you were gay you still needed to keep a very low profile. In the four years after 1967, for example,
convictions for consensual
gay offences
rose by almost 400%
Do you think its OK then men in leadership in the churches being married to each other, I don't, I believe that people in authority have a responsibility to those that they are meant to be serving, but you seem to think its OK, now my opinion is different to yours yet again but Hey Ho! you are entitled to your opinion, but it would appear that I am not, according to the rule of Mr fucking VNA
I’m an atheist. My thoughts are, that for now, that employers such as churches have been given breathing space to adapt, to sort their house out, not just by the law but by the general public. But they know, and we know that at some point they have to comply with the law. I do not believe that either their congregations or the public at large will accept that the bigots in the religious hierarchy are to be afforded some special right to discriminate and operate outside of the law of the land.
Are you saying we have no choice in any of the things that we do or become?
Perhaps this is the root of your problem Tommy. Why don’t you run a foc u poll on that? I’m not sure what the result would be, but it would be interesting. I suspect that those who believe that sexuality is simply a choice are very much in the minority, and further suspect that many such people are religious individuals in denial of their true sexuality. A large percentage of homophobic people, and often those who vehemently oppose gay rights are actually gay. They are gays in denial.
As for choice, how many times have we heard gay folks saying, particularly when growing up, that they would have given anything to have been born straight. It can’t be easy being gay particulary when you have to constantly face such ignorant prejudice as displayed by people such as yourself Tommy.
the most loving and sensitive of these dear folk were the people who had Down Syndrome.
One could argue that just as being gay is not ‘normal’ nor is down syndrome, nor is it ‘natural’ or the way we are supposed to be “designed” (whatever) that is supposed to mean but it does, just like being gay, naturally occur. Who the fuck told you that, most people don’t even want to think about dying let alone plan it in advance, as you seem to indicate. Life is precious and people generally want to live as long as possible, sure there are a minority that advocate euthanasia for themselves, but most are advocates for it to be used on others.
Survey after survey and poll after poll. Sometimes I wonder if you were born yesterday Tommy. But you know most of us get to a certain age, and well develop a certain understanding of illness and death. A lot of us see people suffer long lingering deaths – ie a good bit before it becomes our turn. Right now I have a relative who’s developed motor neuron disease in the last couple of years. He’s quite advanced now – where he is now, if there was a way out, an opportunity to take his own life he’d jump at it. I, like the majority in this country, would, if in a similar predicament like that opportunity too.
