Engine painting and a whine-reccomendations

[oberonspacefruit]

Hello chaps new to the forum.

2 things for the moment-
1: I'm painting my engine in situ-its bubbled under the paint a bit and its letting it down.

im going to wire dremmel the flakes off, and wet and dry it to the same level...thats my plan unless you suggest a different one!

what paint have you had a good result with? ive used por15 before but its not a topcoat and its very expensive.

also, did you use gloss or semi?

2: I passed my mod 2 on tuesday (woohoo) and ive been riding a fazer 600. On my first ride on my fazer at home, i noticed that A: the rear brake is a lot lower/more travel and B: it has a whine coming from the engine. Not the normal fazer whine, they both had that, its somthing else, not loud, not too worrying but it sounds different to the one ive been practicing on. its rotational, on accelleration. Are there common maintainance things that it may not have had done by the previous owner that cause this? i know its hard to pinpoint without hearing it but i hoped there may be a list of common whines- (add your own joke here)
Thanks in advance....

[mickvp]

For a start:





Travel can be moved by moving the brake lever round a bit one spline if it's not sitting right for you.

 I painted my 600 engine with simoniz high temp spray paint. I also bought a roll of 3mm wide masking tape to keep the edges of the fins silver like OEM

Where abouts in the UK?

[fazersharp]

I also bought a roll of 3mm wide masking tape to keep the edges of the fins silver like OEM

You can also kkep the silver by sanding the paint off after too

[Fazer99]

You can also kkep the silver by sanding the paint off after too

You beat me to it I was just about to suggest the sanding option 

[Jamieg285]

I used Halfrauds High Temp Engine Enamel.  They do it in gloss, matt and satin (and red?)    I went with the satin to tidy things up (not a full repaint) and it matched really well.  Was a good match to tidy up the wheels too.

[Jules-C]

[/size]Travel can be moved by moving the brake lever round a bit one spline if it's not sitting right for you.

Not on a Fazer you can't!  There is an adjustment at the back of the pedal where it connects to the pushrod for the master cylinder.  Undo the lock nut, turn the threaded shaft to adjust the pedal height as required (making sure you don't dislodge the rubber boot at the bottom of the master cylinder) and then tighten the lock-nut.

[Jules-C]

Travel can be moved by moving the brake lever round a bit one spline if it's not sitting right for you.

Not on a Fazer you can't! 

There is an adjustment at the back of the pedal where it connects to the pushrod for the master cylinder.  Undo the lock nut, turn the threaded shaft to adjust the pedal height as required (making sure you don't dislodge the rubber boot at the bottom of the master cylinder) and then tighten the lock-nut.

[mickvp]

^^^ oh aye, forgot it was connected by linkage on this bike

[misterjayb1]

Only ever used high temp paint on exhausts.. ps I painted the silver lines on the engine fins. Leaving raw alloy was where the problem of flaking black paint on the fins starts.. imo

[Fazer99]

Only ever used high temp paint on exhausts.. ps I painted the silver lines on the engine fins. Leaving raw alloy was where the problem of flaking black paint on the fins starts.. imo

Only if you use rough grade paper rather than smoothing it down with much finer grade paper. Every now and then I give my engine a coating of WD40 or something similar (after the bike has been washed I should add) and that seems to help keep crap getting under the paint and causing it to flake, it seems to work a bit like lacquering.

[darrsi]

http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,8354.msg82143.html#msg82143

[darrsi]

It's WD40, Engine Brightener, etc, that causes major problems when trying to spray the engine.
Great whilst using the bike, especially through winter, but getting it off to do a paint job is a bloody nightmare, as explained in my link above.

As for the whiney sound, that's just the nature of the engine.
But it can obviously sound very different depending on what exhaust (or earplugs) you have fitted.
An original exhaust will whine the most.

[misterjayb1]

I am a lover of WD and would go as far as saying Im addicted to the stuff.. Caution does have to be taken as to where its applied apart from the obvious brakes n tyres.. It makes an excellent unlacquered paint remover and yes it can prove a nightmare to spray in areas where traces of it still remain..


btw my foxeye whines more than my ex wife, but not nearly as much as my old Blandit 12 

[Fazer99]

It's WD40, Engine Brightener, etc, that causes major problems when trying to spray the engine.
Great whilst using the bike, especially through winter, but getting it off to do a paint job is a bloody nightmare, as explained in my link above.

I know that issue all too well as I used to be a panel beater paint sprayer, it's because of the silicone additives in it, that's why we would de-grease with this lovely stuff that I can't remember the name of as I think you could only get it if you were in that trade (some legal mumbo jumbo why man on the street couldn't buy it) but like you say it's great while using the bike and while storing over winter and I'd rather use it than not as I ride in all weathers.

[joebloggs]

PJ1 case paint
As for WD40, terrible stuff, washes oil and grease off and leave's everything open to the elements
Good for removing chain lube from wheels. That's about it

[Val]

I was thinking there is some sound coming from the engine

It was rear wheel bearing...

[Fazer99]

washes oil and grease off and leave's everything open to the elements
Good for removing chain lube from wheels. That's about it

That it does as that is the weird thing about WD40 it contains additives that clean, protect & lubricate (but only on a very low level like keyholes. It would never be any good to lubricate chains, sprockets and anything on a heavier use scale. It is ideal for protecting as the silicone in it formes a micro film layer that repels water when it's raining and it also helps to prevent freezing during those icy days. like you say it's cracking stuff for cleaning as I believe it contains paraffin which will eat through grease, so as mentioned before that is why you need to take care where you apply it.

 

[oberonspacefruit]

An original exhaust will whine the most.

i think it may be , it has yamaha, tdm stamped on it.......unless of cource its off a tdm.

[oberonspacefruit]

fixed the brake as per instruction. its a lot better now, maybe TOO much, pads seem fine, but it seems either on or off now, a real lack of progressive braking to it. im probably being fussy, ill let it bed in and see how it goes.
the how to thread on the engine looks great but i think ill avoid the plasticote, ive hade nothing but problems with that brand reacting with every other type of aerosol. your bike looks sweet though....

[darrsi]

An original exhaust will whine the most.

i think it may be , it has yamaha, tdm stamped on it.......unless of cource its off a tdm.

Take a photo and show us, they're easy enough to identify.