Exhaust options

[phil mcglassup]

I am looking at putting a stubby slip-on on my 2000 FZS600 but to be honest I don't know much about 4 stroke silencers

Could anyone recommend any particular makes or types that won't need the carbs rejetting ?

Noise or performance doesn't matter as long as it's quiet - ish. I assume I need a silencer and the pipe to connect it to the outlet pf my downpipes, but does the link pipe need to be specific for my bike ?

As usual, any help appreciated

[darrsi]

These bikes don't really appreciate or need rejetting, but even though a lot of manufacturers will say they don't need it a carb balance will get the best out of a changed end can.
OEM exhausts are actually the best, but a tad boring for me.
Budget is the real issue, i paid about £180 for an SP Engineering Moto GP end can which is noisy with a baffle and stupid loud without.
I settled for my Quill exhaust, still not cheap but a much nicer rumble plus the bike behaves better with it on.
Have a look on YouTube for exhaust sounds, although they're just a rough guide, they don't really give a genuine sound like you're standing next to the bike.

[mtread]

Fuel are very good. Comes with a bike specific link pipe. Good value, lots of style choices, and no rejetting required

[darrsi]

[phil mcglassup]

Can I just put a stubby slip-on onto the single outlet pipe under the engine without a link pipe, so that the exhaust is also short ?

[darrsi]

Can I just put a stubby slip-on onto the single outlet pipe under the engine without a link pipe, so that the exhaust is also short ?

Do you like your neighbours?

[phil mcglassup]

I didn't realise they are that noisy 

I notice that the link pipes that are available hold the silencer in the same position as the original. Ideally I want the silencer to run more horizontal to allow for a side mounted number plate. What are the options?

[joebloggs]

I didn't realise they are that noisy 

I notice that the link pipes that are available hold the silencer in the same position as the original. Ideally I want the silencer to run more horizontal to allow for a side mounted number plate. What are the options?

You could have a link pipe made to change the angle but you may run into clearance problems, you'd also need a new bracket to hold the end can.

[darrsi]

I didn't realise they are that noisy 

I notice that the link pipes that are available hold the silencer in the same position as the original. Ideally I want the silencer to run more horizontal to allow for a side mounted number plate. What are the options?

Side mounted number plate???
Please tell me you mean the brackets and not an off centre plate?

[phil mcglassup]

Yes, the number plate willl be mounted on the side of the bike, just above a lowered silencer 

[darrsi]

Yes, the number plate willl be mounted on the side of the bike, just above a lowered silencer 

That's so wrong........

[phil mcglassup]

Or even a raised (say 45 degrees) silencer with the number plate below it 

I could get a straight  mild steel pipe to fit the downpipe outlet ....and then "adapt" it i.e. cut and weld, to the angle and position I want.

Does that sound like it would work ?

[markeb]

myself an thinking of fitting a delavic 200mm round carbon stubby. look great but £175 eBay. my 2nd and probably will send up buying a dominator gp1 stubby, polish jobby, and at around£135 eBay.

[fazersharp]

myself an thinking of fitting a delavic 200mm round carbon stubby. look great but £175 eBay. my 2nd and probably will send up buying a dominator gp1 stubby, polish jobby, and at around£135 eBay.

Er - what's wrong with er like the number plate kinda er sort of where it is.
Yey they are ugly and we all have them (like belly buttons) but moving it to the side will only make it stick out - in more ways than one, just move it up like this over the oem reflector, my new reflector will be just below the plate on a bracket attached to the mudguard as per MOT, I also cut the mudguard flush with the bottom of the plate which is a fully legal size spec plate (up to you if you want to go smaller)  photoshoped plate by the way. 

[phil mcglassup]

Because the back end is to be chopped off and it will have a single seat !!

[fazersharp]

Because the back end is to be chopped off and it will have a single seat !!

Still gonna look better inline and stream lined with the bike at the back -------Chopped off you say? you need to speak to this guy http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,19144.msg221712.html#msg221712

Not actually trying to be a cleaver arse (for a change) but is there any reason why we can not have our reg on a patch on the back of our jacket, the same size and everything, maybe also another sticker reg so the traffic wardens can earn a living - just to stay within a law so we can be done over elsewhere         

[darrsi]

Because the back end is to be chopped off and it will have a single seat !!

Still gonna look better inline and stream lined with the bike at the back -------Chopped off you say? you need to speak to this guy http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,19144.msg221712.html#msg221712

Not actually trying to be a cleaver arse (for a change) but is there any reason why we can not have our reg on a patch on the back of our jacket, the same size and everything, maybe also another sticker reg so the traffic wardens can earn a living - just to stay within a law so we can be done over elsewhere         

1: You'll look like a right twat
2: It would be similar to walking about with your name and address on your back when you get off the bike, just not a great idea
3: Having a number on your back will make you an easy target for malicious people, i'm not sure how yet, but it just will
4: It'll need to be lit up by law, meaning wires or batteries
5: You'll look like a right twat

[fazersharp]

I didnt think about the lighting up bit, I look like a twat anyway, it would just free up the options for the rear end because however excotic you design it, it will always be spoilt by a 7x9 inch sheet of yellow plastic.

[darrsi]

I have a smaller single row number plate, that i used to have on the bike, but my Quill exhaust is unbaffled, and i preferred to keep that as it is and put a standard plate back on so as not to attract unwanted attention from the old bill which those smaller number plates tend to do.

[misterjayb1]

Those letterbox style number plates dont half rub the old bill up the wrong way..

[darrsi]

Those letterbox style number plates dont half rub the old bill up the wrong way..

They do look better on a bike without a doubt, and the one I've got has similar size letters to a standard plate, but obviously without the required space around the letters, so I wasn't even really taking the piss, but I knew that if I get stopped for one i'll get done for both so just put a standard plate back on.
It's not like I have to look at it anyway!

[misterjayb1]

In a group of about six of us mostly with smaller plates and race cans, the one guy with the letterbox style plate was singled out, surrounded and then stopped by 2 marked police bikes.. Agreed they do look the part but not worth the hassle to me.. Currently have a 9x7 and a baffle in my Scorpion can. Old age is indeed a cruel thing 

[Tubz1983]

I Run a black widow link pipe and shortly can off eBay, had to balance the carbs though and still pops a d gurgles on overrun, with the baffle out it sounds ridiculous but not worth the huge fuel consumption and general hassle so I keep it in 90% of the time

[joebloggs]

I recon you could run no plate at all, well for awhile, snap the corner off the plate leaving just enough to bolt to the mount. When you get pulled explain to the copper that someone gave you a nudge from behind at a set of traffic lights etc.

[darrsi]

I Run a black widow link pipe and shortly can off eBay, had to balance the carbs though and still pops a d gurgles on overrun, with the baffle out it sounds ridiculous but not worth the huge fuel consumption and general hassle so I keep it in 90% of the time

My Moto GP can just never feels right to me, spluttering way to much for my sensitive hearing.
It's fully responsive on the throttle but my Quill exhaust just sounds so much more consistent and less overbearing on the ears, especially on motorway runs.
Tried the Moto GP can once out on the road without the baffle and people turn heads about 100 metres in front of you, you could literally wake the dead.
Totally legal with the baffle in though, whereas my Quill can is technically a race can so i bought an aftermarket baffle for it but it swayedtowards sounding like the OEM can so that came straight out, plus it breathes and runs better without it.
Once the carbs were balanced properly it has a nice but totally non attention seeking sound to it now.