Author Topic: front discs for 2003 foxeye (Read 6071 times)

mobile mouse · « **on:** 17 June 2016, 05:25:44 pm »

Hi,

Bike just failed MOT.... booo hooo

Of all things front brake discs down to 2.5mm.

Cannot complain bike has done 42k on originals.

What are people replacing them with.... I have been quoted £240 for a pair of EBC's from the local motorcycle shop...

Cheers,

Gheeks · « **Reply #1 on:** 17 June 2016, 09:14:36 pm »

Am breaking one. 2003 with 18000mls. Discs are 4mm according to my vernier. £30 plus postage. - PM me if you are interested.

Bretty · « **Reply #2 on:** 18 June 2016, 09:44:05 am »

Wow that's a mega deal!!

Let me know if he doesn't rip your arm off!!

I could also do with a pair of forks (just vertical bits) and centre stand.

Gheeks · « **Reply #3 on:** 18 June 2016, 06:32:40 pm »

Centre stand is available had just cleaned it / painted with red oxide and Hammerite smooth ready to go back on when other issues forced me to break the bike. Forks are ok but not great. They are straight and no leaks but they are pitted at the top ( though not in the area business area) If you PM me your email I'll send you pics.

TOADY · « **Reply #4 on:** 18 June 2016, 06:42:28 pm »

Pretty sure I saw some gaffer copies on ebay at 108 quid

unfazed · « **Reply #5 on:** 18 June 2016, 11:25:02 pm »

What were you doing to wear out the discs in 42K or what pads are you using?

I had nearly 70K on mine and replaced them with EBC X type, what a load of shite, they were downright dangerous, would not stop you if they were cold and wet. they did not insipre confidence in the pouring rain either. You were never sure if they would work immediately or not. They were on or off. 12k later I dumped and put back on a set of originals. No problem since.

I had a Brembo rear for a while which was brilliant, every bit as good as the originals, but they did not do front ones, Unfortunately when I sold the 400 it went with it. My son had a puncture on the 400 before heading back to Wales and I swapped the wheel of the 600 with it. Forgot to take it off before I sold it.

darrsi · « **Reply #6 on:** 19 June 2016, 06:49:16 am »

I was actually gonna say i'm not a fan of EBC either.
I know there was other reasons involved why i had to use my rear brake a bit more than usual but i reckon i'd have got more life out of a wooden brake disc than the EBC Pro Lite i put on.

Personally i would snap up those OEM discs being offered by 'Gheeks',you seriously won't get a better bargain than that.

darrsi · « **Reply #7 on:** 19 June 2016, 04:36:45 pm »

If you do go for new discs you're gonna need new pads.
I still can't speak highly enough of Galfer pads for the front calipers.
I just did a service on my calipers earlier and i still can't believe what great condition the pads are in 3 years later.
Now i know i don't do a lot of mileage as it's mainly a commuter, but i'm on the bike a minimum 5 days a week all year round in all weathers and i still have to stop the bike, but the fact is they don't seem to wear out, plus the discs don't seem to wear either?
Highly recommended from me anyway.

Not bad at all for 3 years constant use!

sinto · « **Reply #8 on:** 19 June 2016, 07:35:24 pm »

Quote from: darrsi on 19 June 2016, 04:36:45 pm

If you do go for new discs you're gonna need new pads.
I still can't speak highly enough of Galfer pads for the front calipers.
I just did a service on my calipers earlier and i still can't believe what great condition the pads are in 3 years later.
Now i know i don't do a lot of mileage as it's mainly a commuter, but i'm on the bike a minimum 5 days a week all year round in all weathers and i still have to stop the bike, but the fact is they don't seem to wear out, plus the discs don't seem to wear either?
Highly recommended from me anyway.

Not bad at all for 3 years constant use!

Foc me darrsi, that's sounding like a Scottish deal there with those pads

buy and use and they don't wear out

mobile mouse · « **Reply #9 on:** 19 June 2016, 08:56:44 pm »

Hi,

The brake pads that are currently fitted to the front are SBS sintered they passed but will need changing before the end of the year.
I think they have been in since 2013 so I have done 10-11k miles on them.

I cannot remember what was fitted before that....

darrsi · « **Reply #10 on:** 19 June 2016, 09:55:28 pm »

Quote from: sinto on 19 June 2016, 07:35:24 pm

Quote from: darrsi on 19 June 2016, 04:36:45 pm
If you do go for new discs you're gonna need new pads.
I still can't speak highly enough of Galfer pads for the front calipers.
I just did a service on my calipers earlier and i still can't believe what great condition the pads are in 3 years later.
Now i know i don't do a lot of mileage as it's mainly a commuter, but i'm on the bike a minimum 5 days a week all year round in all weathers and i still have to stop the bike, but the fact is they don't seem to wear out, plus the discs don't seem to wear either?
Highly recommended from me anyway.

Not bad at all for 3 years constant use!
Foc me darrsi, that's sounding like a Scottish deal there with those pads buy and use and they don't wear out

Always gone on about them, and they're still delivering.
Blinding pads, and a bargain on Ebay, from the same firm that sells them for nearly twice the price on their website!
You have been told!!!

darrsi · « **Reply #11 on:** 20 June 2016, 06:50:12 am »

Quote from: mobile mouse on 19 June 2016, 08:56:44 pm

Hi,

The brake pads that are currently fitted to the front are SBS sintered they passed but will need changing before the end of the year.
I think they have been in since 2013 so I have done 10-11k miles on them.

I cannot remember what was fitted before that....

It's more to do with if you get new discs or not.
Generally most people would always buy new pads with new discs, it's not a 100% must, but a bit icky if you don't.

unfazed · « **Reply #12 on:** 20 June 2016, 08:54:59 am »

Quote from: darrsi on 19 June 2016, 04:36:45 pm

If you do go for new discs you're gonna need new pads.
I still can't speak highly enough of Galfer pads for the front calipers.
I just did a service on my calipers earlier and i still can't believe what great condition the pads are in 3 years later.
Now i know i don't do a lot of mileage as it's mainly a commuter, but i'm on the bike a minimum 5 days a week all year round in all weathers and i still have to stop the bike, but the fact is they don't seem to wear out, plus the discs don't seem to wear either?
Highly recommended from me anyway.

Not bad at all for 3 years constant use!

If you took it out of 2nd gear you would have to use them More

Fazerider · « **Reply #13 on:** 20 June 2016, 09:23:45 am »

Quote from: unfazed on 18 June 2016, 11:25:02 pm

... replaced them with EBC X type, what a load of shite, they were downright dangerous, would not stop you if they were cold and wet. they did not insipre confidence in the pouring rain either. You were never sure if they would work immediately or not. They were on or off. 12k later I dumped and put back on a set of originals. No problem since.

I've been using EBC X for the past 48,000 miles, but on fitting them immediately experienced the same problem. There was also a tendency for the pads to seize to the disc if parked up when damp.
I changed from the sintered pads EBC recommended (and supplied with the discs) to organic and it made all the difference.

darrsi · « **Reply #14 on:** 20 June 2016, 10:30:14 am »

Quote from: unfazed on 20 June 2016, 08:54:59 am

Quote from: darrsi on 19 June 2016, 04:36:45 pm
If you do go for new discs you're gonna need new pads.
I still can't speak highly enough of Galfer pads for the front calipers.
I just did a service on my calipers earlier and i still can't believe what great condition the pads are in 3 years later.
Now i know i don't do a lot of mileage as it's mainly a commuter, but i'm on the bike a minimum 5 days a week all year round in all weathers and i still have to stop the bike, but the fact is they don't seem to wear out, plus the discs don't seem to wear either?
Highly recommended from me anyway.

Not bad at all for 3 years constant use!

If you took it out of 2nd gear you would have to use them More

It has gears???

unfazed · « **Reply #15 on:** 20 June 2016, 12:08:54 pm »

Darrsi, yes there are 6, operated by the little lever near the riders left footrest, in conjunction with the lever on the left handle bar. It is called the clutch lever.

mobile mouse · « **Reply #16 on:** 26 June 2016, 08:37:37 pm »

Fitted a pair of front discs bought from Gheeks.
All went well. Used a manual impact driver to loosen the brake disc bolts.
Some had signs of rust which I was able to remove.
The disc has road salt behind which was quite hard and a wire brush was needed with a lot of elbow grease, but eventually all gone.

Replacements on and all bolt tight as per service manual only 23Nm. A lot less than it took to remove....

I have fitted NEW pads not bought the SBS sintered previously fitted, but bought BENDIX BEN-134-MF also sintered......

But I am a little concerned that the 42k miles on the old discs could have been caused with using sintered pads.....

Will I suffer the same issue in the future!!!

darrsi talks about the Galfer pads are these sintered!
Should I move away from Sintered pads, but I want stopping power will I get it with the Galfer pads!!!

Any comments appreciated.

Cheers,

Skippernick · « **Reply #17 on:** 26 June 2016, 09:44:11 pm »

Darrsi gaffers are not sintered ceramic i think. I have them they are good but a bit dusty.

darrsi · « **Reply #18 on:** 27 June 2016, 06:26:51 am »

Quote from: Skippernick on 26 June 2016, 09:44:11 pm

Darrsi gaffers are not sintered ceramic i think. I have them they are good but a bit dusty.

They do sintered and semi metallic,, i've not seen ceramic ones, but mine don't create hardly any dust at all?
I'm not sure what code number the pads i have on though as it was years ago when i bought them?

http://galferusa.com/product-category/yamaha/2000-yamaha/street-2000-yamaha/fzs-600-s-fazer/
http://galferusa.com/product-category/yamaha/2000-yamaha/street-2000-yamaha/fzs-600-s-fazer/

darrsi · « **Reply #19 on:** 27 June 2016, 06:34:55 am »

I had this link saved in my emails, so i'm wondering if it was the old formula G1651 that i have, that's now been replaced with the newer G1054 which is more of an all rounder pad for everyday riding.
I'm not 100% about that though!

Mine certainly aren't dusty at all, i would've binned them straight away if they were.

http://www.galfer.eu/index.php/en/galfer-moto/item/2409-galfer-upgrades-the-g1054-semi-metallic-compound-to-replace-the-g1651

Skippernick · « **Reply #20 on:** 27 June 2016, 08:40:13 pm »

G1054 sounds right, they are dusty compared to original manufacturers ones, but brake way better.

Wookee · « **Reply #21 on:** 30 June 2016, 09:19:43 am »

Just ordered some Galfers for front and rear as mine all need replacing.

I have EBC's sintered on at the minute and they're seizing to the front discs when wet

mobile mouse · « **Reply #22 on:** 01 July 2016, 08:45:25 pm »

Fitted the replacement discs from Gheeks and new Bendix sintered pads. bike passed MOT great....

But I have noticed at low speeds a squeal from the front brakes when the brakes are applied lightly.

Release brake squeal goes away.
Being a little paranoid as i think its a metal on metal squeal.

Am I being paranoid there will be little or no brake dust but I cannot stop thinking I am wearing out the discs.

I want to completely dismantle each caliper and clean the pistons and seals and re assemble.

I have even bought a set of Galfer 1054 in case the Bendix pads are being too aggressive.

any thoughts....

unfazed · « **Reply #23 on:** 01 July 2016, 10:00:43 pm »

Did you use high temperature copper grease on the back of the pads prior to fitting? this helps prevent it

However it ins not to uncommon for sintered pads to make the noise you describe when the are bedding in and occasionally after bedding.

mobile mouse · « **Reply #24 on:** 02 July 2016, 12:31:18 am »

yes I used copper grease on back of pads.