windows 10

[darrsi]

foccing shite, should always have an easy option to restore
looking around the Microsoft website......loads are pissed off with Win 10, I cannot even open email links.......I thought pooters were meant to make life easier FFS  and I cannot use the emoticons either

Generally, like most things, people will only leave a review when they want to moan about something, rather than to praise it, so I wouldn't take too much notice as I'm sure there are millions of people more than happy with Windows 10.
You have to take into account that some of these people may just have finger trouble or simply don't know what they're doing during the changeover process.

[Slaninar]

XP is the best (non server) OS Microsoft has produced. It is outdated now, no support.

And thats the problem -it is too good, people like/ liked it so much that they are reluctant to give it up and microsoft have had to resort to almost blackmail to wrench it out of peoples hands.
The fact that it is not supported is a good thing because everytime there was an "update" it just broke somthing.

Windows 10 has very suspicious privacy policy and, while it does work a bit quicker than win 7, it still tends to take up too much RAM from time to time, for no obvious reason. 

That's because it is downloading all your history and info to the NSA

Being ironic?


Anyhow, the memory problem will probably be solved with patches and/or a service pack.


The privacy problem - not sure if it will ever be solved by Microsoft.

[unfazed]

managed to pin IE to the task bar but it won't open.......says connection issues with modem but edge opens the internet if I click on it

Is you Operating system 64 bit or 32 bit?

[maddog04]

64 or 32.....dunno, how do I find out?




You have to take into account that some of these people may just have finger trouble or simply don't know what they're doing during the changeover process.

and therein lies the issue Darssi...............they offer an upgrade where you just click a tab to accept but only once its upgraded do you find out that certain important things to you that once worked, no longer work and not only that......you then can't do anything about it. I understand loads like it and that's great but for the numpties like me its a crying shame that I'm now on here asking advice instead of just doing a system restore

[darrsi]

64 or 32.....dunno, how do I find out?




You have to take into account that some of these people may just have finger trouble or simply don't know what they're doing during the changeover process.

and therein lies the issue Darssi...............they offer an upgrade where you just click a tab to accept but only once its upgraded do you find out that certain important things to you that once worked, no longer work and not only that......you then can't do anything about it. I understand loads like it and that's great but for the numpties like me its a crying shame that I'm now on here asking advice instead of just doing a system restore

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/which-operating-system

I'm only self taught, so don't think you're alone, I also rely on the mighty Google, YouTube and helpful forums like this.

[maddog04]

cheers......64 bit

[unfazed]

cheers......64 bit

Good man Darrsi

Open Edge

Copy and paste this link into the Edge "Where to now box"  https://www.microsoft.com/en-ie/download/internet-explorer-11-for-windows-7-details.aspx and Click Next
On the next page click download
IE 11 will start to download
when it finishes downloading click Run
This will install the latest version of IE.

Let me know how you get on

[PieEater]

Internet explorer should already be installed, just type Internet in the search box !!! If you want to use it as your default browser just type Default in the search box, choose Default programs then Web Browser and select Internet Explorer.

/Edit: MS included IE11 in Windows 10 as a fall-back for sites that were not optimised for Edge.

[unfazed]

It does not work on all upgrades and has to be reinstalled
I eventually gave up using it due to problems even though I liked it and now use Firefox.
Never really took to Google Chrome

[PieEater]

It does not work on all upgrades and has to be reinstalled

I'm not really sure about that as it is part of the Windows 10 installation so there's no reason why it would have to be installed a second time unless the upgrade process failed at some point which isn't going to be a common occurrence.

https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2015/08/26/how-microsoft-edge-and-internet-explorer-11-on-windows-10-work-better-together-in-the-enterprise/

[darrsi]

Sounds like you're trying to polish a turd.
Time to move on and try a different browser, if you're not sure which one then try them all, apart from Edge, that's just minging.


One thing iwill recommend though, as i said earlier i use Chrome and i've downloaded a free app called ADBLOCK, which for some daft reason Edge won't let me use.
It blocks nearly all pop up adverts, and also stops those annoying 30 second videos on sites like YouTube, etc, before whatever you want to see.
An icon will sit in the top right corner of your so if you ever need to turn it off quickly, which is rare, then there is very easy access. It will also show a counter of how many ads blocked, mine's on nearly 400,000 at the moment, which goes to show how much annoying crap gets flaunted in front of you.
Really worth using if you don't already have it.

[PieEater]

Sounds like you're trying to polish a turd.

Not really just trying to clarify some misconceptions.

/Edit: I'm as reluctant to accept unnecessary change foisted upon me as the next man but sometimes you have to move with the times. I didn't like Edge at first but I've adapted to it and now happily use it as my regular browser, it seems cleaner and smoother than older browsers and I've not had any major issues with it.

[darrsi]

Sounds like you're trying to polish a turd.

Not really just trying to clarify some misconceptions.

/Edit: I'm as reluctant to accept unnecessary change foisted upon me as the next man but sometimes you have to move with the times. I didn't like Edge at first but I've adapted to it and now happily use it as my regular browser, it seems cleaner and smoother than older browsers and I've not had any major issues with it.

I was more than willing to use the Edge from the off but by it not allowing Adblock, and then finding out that Whatsapp Web didn't work either, which I really use a lot over the weekends while I'm on the laptop, it was a no brainer to go back to Chrome.
Realistically speaking Windows 10 is still a newbie and obviously, like anything new, it will have it's teething troubles, but as a whole I'm quite happy with it right now and would certainly recommend it, even more so while it's still free.
I am also part of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" brigade, but in comparison to Windows 8 which I set up for a mate of mine on his new computer, it's a world apart and a great improvement.
I've jumped from W7 to W10, so not too much of a change for me to be honest.

[unfazed]

I'm not really sure about that as it is part of the Windows 10 installation so there's no reason why it would have to be installed a second time unless the upgrade process failed at some point which isn't going to be a common occurrence.

https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2015/08/26/how-microsoft-edge-and-internet-explorer-11-on-windows-10-work-better-together-in-the-enterprise/

And you go to a windows site to get the true information 

The number of upgrades I have had to fix tells me otherwise, many are caused by malware on the machines when the upgrade took place others were cause by anti virus programs not working correctly which in a few cases the install process did not catch.

At this stage any one who comes to me with odd ball problems from the upgrade that cannot be sorted in 30 minutes I back up the complete disk to a spare, wipe the original and install Windows 10 from scratch. Not only is it faster it is also more far more stable.

[darrsi]

I'm not really sure about that as it is part of the Windows 10 installation so there's no reason why it would have to be installed a second time unless the upgrade process failed at some point which isn't going to be a common occurrence.

https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2015/08/26/how-microsoft-edge-and-internet-explorer-11-on-windows-10-work-better-together-in-the-enterprise/

And you go to a windows site to get the true information 

The number of upgrades I have had to fix tells me otherwise, many are caused by malware on the machines when the upgrade took place others were cause by anti virus programs not working correctly which in a few cases the install process did not catch.

At this stage any one who comes to me with odd ball problems from the upgrade that cannot be sorted in 30 minutes I back up the complete disk to a spare, wipe the original and install Windows 10 from scratch. Not only is it faster it is also more far more stable.

I must've picked up Malware when I changed over, but that Adwcleaner sorted it all out very well, the same as it did a couple of Xmas's ago when some sad bastard ruined everyone's day by hoofing out a nasty virus that completely took over the browser, and added about 3000 unwanted items to the my system.
My mates new laptop at the time had even more and it fixed his one as well. For such a basic looking app it works very thoroughly.

[fazersharp]

All this is exactly why I have stayed with xp.
I use firefox with that but am getting pissed off with it because it seems now that there is an update every 2 days and every time there is one it go's crap and something stops working.It used to work great, now I get 100% cpu spikes on some sites, I might start a separate post on that one after the weekend as i dont want to
 

[darrsi]

All this is exactly why I have stayed with xp.
I use firefox with that but am getting pissed off with it because it seems now that there is an update every 2 days and every time there is one it go's crap and something stops working.It used to work great, now I get 100% cpu spikes on some sites, I might start a separate post on that one after the weekend as i dont want to
 

It's old, XP must be sooooooo sloooooow in comparison to Windows 7 or above.
I know my old laptop which has it on is. I crank it up occasionally just to blow away the cobwebs, and to remind me again how slow it really was.
I only keep it as I use it as another back-up place for a mountain of music.

[PieEater]

And you go to a windows site to get the true information 

No I posted the link as evidence that I'm not talking out of my arse My job of work means I have to be more knowledgeable than most when it comes to these things so I get my information from a number of sources as well experience.

I don't doubt you've had some borked upgrades because the machines you've worked on have been borked in the first place but that does not negate the fact that Windows 10 comes with IE11 pre-installed and assuming a successful installation of Windows 10 there should be no reason other than user error to have to re-install Internet Explorer.

[PieEater]

All this is exactly why I have stayed with xp.

That's a very risky strategy if you value the security of your data.

[fazersharp]

All this is exactly why I have stayed with xp.
I use firefox with that but am getting pissed off with it because it seems now that there is an update every 2 days and every time there is one it go's crap and something stops working.It used to work great, now I get 100% cpu spikes on some sites, I might start a separate post on that one after the weekend as i dont want to
 

It's old, XP must be sooooooo sloooooow in comparison to Windows 7 or above.
I know my old laptop which has it on is. I crank it up occasionally just to blow away the cobwebs, and to remind me again how slow it really was.
I only keep it as I use it as another back-up place for a mountain of music.

Yes I have to admit that it is now looking slow as I also have another pc with win 7 but the speed is more to do with the newer pc with better cpu and and extra 6gb ram than the difference between xp and 7. I will be replacing my xp pc with a newer one with win 7 and I will NOT be upgrading to 10

[fazersharp]

All this is exactly why I have stayed with xp.

That's a very risky strategy if you value the security of your data.

I have a paid for security software installed, whats the issue with an old xp then

[BBROWN1664]

There is security and security.

XP is no longer supported by Microsoft so other vendors like Avast, MacAfee etc don't fully support XP with their products either. As browsers go out of support, MacAfee etc stop looking for and fixing things they find as it just adds cost with no benefit for them.

[Jamieg285]

I'm suprised that no-one has mentioned Linux yet

 

 

[fazersharp]

There is security and security.

XP is no longer supported by Microsoft so other vendors like Avast, MacAfee etc don't fully support XP with their products either. As browsers go out of support, MacAfee etc stop looking for and fixing things they find as it just adds cost with no benefit for them.

I am still getting some sort of support for xp as I have just received an up date -Windows malicious software removal tool January 2016(KB890830) whats that then?
And as far as I am aware my Norton is fully supporting xp

[PieEater]

And as far as I am aware my Norton is fully supporting xp

From Norton support - "If you have a Windows XP computer, we strongly recommend that you upgrade to a more modern and supported operating system as soon as possible."

https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v95977279_EndUserProfile_en_us