Jihad John gone

[slappy]

[/size][size=1rem]Al-Mohammad is the name on a Syrian passport found with the remains of one of the attackers, though the man's identity has not yet been verified. What has been confirmed is that his fingerprints match those taken by the Greek authorities after he arrived with migrants on the island of Leros in October 2015.[/size][/size][/font][/size][size=1rem]The above is from the BBC news website, how many more like him are now in Europe?  If he arrived in October looks to me like he has come to Europe for the sole purpose to carry out the atrocity in Paris.[/size]

[Hedgetrimmer]

[size=1rem]Al-Mohammad is the name on a Syrian passport found with the remains of one of the attackers, though the man's identity has not yet been verified. What has been confirmed is that his fingerprints match those taken by the Greek authorities after he arrived with migrants on the island of Leros in October 2015.[/size][/color][size=1rem]The above is from the BBC news website, how many more like him are now in Europe?  If he arrived in October looks to me like he has come to Europe for the sole purpose to carry out the atrocity in Paris.[/size][/color]

It is hardly surprising that IS, Al Qaeda or whoever would take this "refugee crisis" as an opportunity to slip a few nasties into Europe. I'm sure there'll be more to come. Thank you Germany for being so obliging as to invite them all in. Had second thoughts now it's too late have you, Ms. Merkel?

[Skippernick]

[size=1rem]Al-Mohammad is the name on a Syrian passport found with the remains of one of the attackers, though the man's identity has not yet been verified. What has been confirmed is that his fingerprints match those taken by the Greek authorities after he arrived with migrants on the island of Leros in October 2015.[/size][/color][size=1rem]The above is from the BBC news website, how many more like him are now in Europe?  If he arrived in October looks to me like he has come to Europe for the sole purpose to carry out the atrocity in Paris.[/size][/color]

It is hardly surprising that IS, Al Qaeda or whoever would take this "refugee crisis" as an opportunity to slip a few nasties into Europe. I'm sure there'll be more to come. Thank you Germany for being so obliging as to invite them all in. Had second thoughts now it's too late have you, Ms. Merkel?

Yeah in fact lets send them all to Germany as they were so obliging in the first place.

[VNA - BMW Wank]

No, the definition of terrorism I gave comes from a study by Rosemary H. T. O'Kane, Professor of Comparative Political Theory, School of Politics, International Relations and Philosophy, (SPIRE) UK.

And I think it should remain as Ms O'Kane's interpretation.  I'll stick to the dictionary.

The reason I mentioned Israel is becuase Ms O'Kane's illustration is very similar to Israel's assertions of how reasonable they are.  For example in their last invasion of Gaza, they would leaflet a civilian area giving the residents 12 or 24hrs to pack up and leave before they bombed the area beyond recognition.  When as a result of their bombing they were accused of acting as or acts of terrorism, they said 'what terrorist would drop leaflets asking the people to move to safety - how could we be more reasonable. 

But, as an innocent civilian,  to be given 12 hrs to get out of your home or die as it is raised to the ground, is an act of terror.  It is terrorism. 

P.S. have you read the discussion that follows the Oxford Dictionary definition? Interesting stuff. Apparently, dictionary definitions can change.

I took the first definitions that came up in my search.  The Oxford one is interesting and I wondered if you would pick up on it.  I do like the fact that the online Oxford allows you to comment on their content! And the first comment is absolutely spot on. 

You will remain a target as much as the rest of us. Oh well, that's terrorism for you.

Indeed,and that I am a target just as much as anybody else is not going to change my views.

Oh I might have forgotten to mention that the Iraq Body Count is documented deaths.  Some estimate the true figure to be 3 or 4 times or more as many.

And there is more to document - genocide;

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/sinjar-mass-grave-of-yazidi-women-discovered-in-iraq-a6735136.html

Robert Fisk: 'We remain blindfolded about Isis' says the man who should know;Brian Keenan was held by Shia Muslims loyal to Hezbollah in Lebanon;

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/robert-fisk-we-remain-blindfolded-about-isis-says-the-man-who-should-know-a6735426.html


I'm sure many here will remember the name Brian Keenan. 

[lew600fazer]

Why has this thread evolved into Brian Keenan, he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Brian spent 54 months wearing a blind fold in the 1980's, held by Shia Muslims loyal to Hezbollah.

Hezbollah today are locked in battle with IS.

Robert Fisk is one of the leading journalists reporting on Middle Eastern matters.

I wore a blindfold for four and a half years, and ‘Western democracy’ tells me that justice is blind. I’m not sure about this – because until we can un-blindly question how power is dispensed, then we’re all wearing blindfolds

[lew600fazer]

Terry Waite not worth a mention then?? or maybe he was M15 hiding under the guise of the Anglican church.

[Hedgetrimmer]

VNA, this Iraq Body Count thing you keep banging on about is starting to sound like a rather unhealthy obsession. We can't bring them back. If you are so concerned, then go out there and do something about it. If there is nothing you can do, leave it be. It doesn't do you, me or anyone else any good to just keep harping on about it. You are changing nothing.

[Grahamm]

And who decided that we should turn this country into a multicultural hodgepodge?

That would be the Romans, Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Scots, Irish, Vikings, Normans, Romani, Hugenots, Indians, Africans, Germans, Jews, West Indians...

Which ones are your ancestors?

[Hedgetrimmer]

And who decided that we should turn this country into a multicultural hodgepodge?

That would be the Romans, Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Scots, Irish, Vikings, Normans, Romani, Hugenots, Indians, Africans, Germans, Jews, West Indians...

Which ones are your ancestors?

Yes, odd isn't it. Yet we spilt much blood to keep out the Spanish, the French, the Nazis and many of the above, and were prepared to do the same to keep out the Soviets. But for some reason if a radicalised muslim preaches hatred and terror on our streets, we'll defend his right to do so till the end, and go out of our way to allow others to come here.  Now, is it time for you to call me a racist yet? 

[pilninggas]

Funny how the news channels (the BBC being the worst) were in Moelenbeek and were describing the culprits as 'vulnerable to radicalisation' and 'isolated from society', now correct me if I am wrong, but Hitler has never to my knowledge been described as 'vulnerable', yet he arrived at that first NSDAP meeting still reeling from WW1 (vulnerable?), unemployable outside of the miltary (isolated from society?) and young (vulnerable to radicalisation?), now do we revise history and say really Hitler was a young man who went off of the rails or do we stop with all the PC nonsense and say that these Islamofascists are exactly the same as the Nazis and no paper-waving or apologising/excuse-making for their atrocities is acceptable?

I laughed at North African migrant who they interviewed in Brussels who said he was marginalised - does he really believe if the average Belgian went to Algeria or Egypt they would be given safety, benefits or accomodation? I think any amount of money, resources and state-intervention given to these 21st Century Nazis won't stop them, it'll just fund their despicable plans with more effifacy. If some of these cowards did come via rat-lines from Syria pretending to be Refugees, then I consider those bleeding hearts who allowed and facilitated this to be accountable for attacks in Western and Northern Europe and should be prosecuted (not one chance).

This apologising for the rise of Islamonazism makes me sick.

[darrsi]

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/476163/Refugees-flight-Syria-UK-Paris-attacks

[lew600fazer]

Ah well at least VNA will be happy arrived in Glasgow, hope they fecking stay there.

[darrsi]

"...Tory MP's urge ministers to make sure they are genuine asylum seekers, not terrorists..."

How the fuck do you do that then???

"Are you a terrorist?"
"No."
"Welcome to Glasgow, move along."


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3322197/First-Syrian-refugees-flying-Britain-Tory-MPs-urge-ministers-make-sure-genuine-asylum-seekers-not-terrorists.html

[joebloggs]

Wouldn't fancy my chances as a refugee attempting to live in America, they'll probably waterboard them, you know, just in case......

[Robbie8666]

surely any security checks should be made prior to embarking on the flight to UK?
 
easier said than done I know and I do appreciate that there are real refugee's/asylum seekers out there & that they are not all terrorists!!
 

[darrsi]

surely any security checks should be made prior to embarking on the flight to UK?
 
easier said than done I know and I do appreciate that there are real refugee's/asylum seekers out there & that they are not all terrorists!!

Would be nice to appear to be at least a little bit cautious though!

[BBROWN1664]

A Scottish friend asked the other day why we would want to allow people into the country that are violent to others?

My response was, we allow the scots in.

Fair point was his response.

[Oldgit]

me,s a Pict--Pict ancestors.

[darrsi]

me,s a Pict--Pict ancestors.

Okay, i have to ask as nobody else has yet but i'm sure they're as puzzled as me......did you fall down the stairs whilst typing that?
What were you actually trying to say? 

[Robbie8666]

me,s a Pict--Pict ancestors.

Okay, i have to ask as nobody else has yet but i'm sure they're as puzzled as me......did you fall down the stairs whilst typing that?
What were you actually trying to say? 

I read it as a reply to this!

And who decided that we should turn this country into a multicultural hodgepodge?

That would be the Romans, Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Scots, Irish, Vikings, Normans, Romani, Hugenots, Indians, Africans, Germans, Jews, West Indians...

Which ones are your ancestors?

as in his ancestors were Picts!
 
can't remember my history lessons clearly as it was a long time ago but google provided the answer!
The Picts were a tribal confederation of peoples who lived in what is today eastern and northern Scotland during the Late Iron Age and Early Medieval periods. They are thought to have been ethnolinguistically Celtic
 
 
 

[darrsi]

me,s a Pict--Pict ancestors.

Okay, i have to ask as nobody else has yet but i'm sure they're as puzzled as me......did you fall down the stairs whilst typing that?
What were you actually trying to say? 

I read it as a reply to this!

And who decided that we should turn this country into a multicultural hodgepodge?

That would be the Romans, Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Scots, Irish, Vikings, Normans, Romani, Hugenots, Indians, Africans, Germans, Jews, West Indians...

Which ones are your ancestors?

as in his ancestors were Picts!
 
can't remember my history lessons clearly as it was a long time ago but google provided the answer!
The Picts were a tribal confederation of peoples who lived in what is today eastern and northern Scotland during the Late Iron Age and Early Medieval periods. They are thought to have been ethnolinguistically Celtic

I used to bunk off history far too often, it's obviously taking its toll now.
You live and learn.

[celticdog]

Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving With a Pict

[slappy]

Always wondered what my ancestors got up to whilst sheltering in their cave

[joebloggs]

Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving With a Pict

I have the mother of all hangovers and that soundtrack really messed my head up