Author Topic: Ideas to stop chain's rear side plates drying out? (Read 4101 times)

SteveMc278 · « **on:** 15 August 2015, 10:42:48 pm »

Does anyone know what's the best compromise spray-on chain lube to spray on the rear plates of the chain to stop the chain drying out in cold dry weather?
I've got an auto chain oiler fitted but chain oilers can't lube the chain when the bike's not being ridden. Brushing over the chain with Scottoil is the best option but with a bike parked out doors is not a quick and easy task in bad weather....of course it can be done but a quick spray done more frequently is what I want to be doing.
As said I'm looking for a compromise answer which obviously won't be what the gods-up-on-high at Scottoiler in Glasgow are going to agree with?

stevie-g1968 · « **Reply #1 on:** 15 August 2015, 11:24:24 pm »

I use pj1 chain lube, spray on... wipe off the excess.

Ruby Racing · « **Reply #2 on:** 15 August 2015, 11:51:55 pm »

Wurth non fling chain lube is excellent. I use it all the time.

darrsi · « **Reply #3 on:** 16 August 2015, 03:30:46 am »

Always used Wurth, never had issues, good stuff.

fazersharp · « **Reply #4 on:** 16 August 2015, 10:32:48 am »

I think mine is the PJ1 - comes out liquidy and then drys and is a nice white colour.
Tip just incase you dont know is spray when the chain is warm after a ride which helps it stay liquid for longer, and spray the bottom inside run which helps any fling to fling into the links.

Back in the 80s on my Suzuki GP125 you could get a biscuit tin size tin with hard waxoil in it that you heated over a camping stove to liquid and take off your chain an lay in it, swish it about fot a while and take out and let set

His Dudeness · « **Reply #5 on:** 16 August 2015, 02:35:44 pm »

Ye must be made of money. Spray lube is a rip off. Dirty old engine oil does the job

Ruby Racing · « **Reply #6 on:** 16 August 2015, 06:54:41 pm »

Quote from: His Dudeness on 16 August 2015, 02:35:44 pm

Ye must be made of money. Spray lube is a rip off. Dirty old engine oil does the job

Yup. I live in Jersey where everyone is a millionaire!

fazersharp · « **Reply #7 on:** 18 August 2015, 08:53:35 pm »

I got it wrong when I said PJ1 -- this is the one I use

SteveMc278 · « **Reply #8 on:** 18 August 2015, 09:16:30 pm »

Thanks...all good replies.
But does anyone know which spray lube will blend in the best with Scottoil that already coats my chain? Sure this will be against the rules of the 'Scottoil bible' but auto oilers are not the 'fit and forget' systems that they are marketed as.

stevierst · « **Reply #9 on:** 18 August 2015, 09:42:52 pm »

Don't use Scottoil at all, it's rubbish!

Bog standard engine oil in your Scottoiler works incredibly well, doesn't fling, and unlike Scottoil, doesn't wash off in the rain, and its really cheap in comparison.
And if you store your bike for winter, just wipe it over with fresh engine oil, it doesn't dry out.

Used it for the last decade, and well over 200k miles. Only ever changed 2 chains, and they were already on their way out.

fazersharp · « **Reply #10 on:** 18 August 2015, 10:15:16 pm »

Quote from: stevierst on 18 August 2015, 09:42:52 pm

and unlike Scottoil, doesn't wash off in the rain,

Dose that mean that it is a water based oil

stevierst · « **Reply #11 on:** 18 August 2015, 10:23:46 pm »

It's probably made from the tears of virgin mermaids! :P

Chris · « **Reply #12 on:** 19 August 2015, 01:56:34 am »

I've always used Wurth dry chain lube. super easy to spray on and gives a good coating with no sling. Just give the chain a good clean and coat it while it's hot after a run and it's always been fine. One of my friends that rides all weathers uses the dry chain lube during the nicer months and the wurth chain wax during winter. He's always been happy with it.

Chris

darrsi · « **Reply #13 on:** 19 August 2015, 05:43:39 am »

Quote from: fazersharp on 18 August 2015, 08:53:35 pm

I got it wrong when I said PJ1 -- this is the one I use

Doesn't really matter what you use on yours, 'cos it's never seen the rain before.
It's the wet stuff that causes all the grief, and a bit of salt during winter too.
You need to ride your bike through a downpour for a few hundred miles then see if that stuff is still on your chain or not, and doing its job.
I prefer the Wurth lube compared to the Wurth wax as it sprays on much easier, but i believe the wax is more suitable for winter time if you're an all year/weather rider.

fazersharp · « **Reply #14 on:** 19 August 2015, 09:36:53 am »

Yes good caveat as in that respect - totally untested

darrsi · « **Reply #15 on:** 19 August 2015, 11:37:11 am »

Quote from: fazersharp on 19 August 2015, 09:36:53 am

Yes good caveat as in that respect - totally untested

Looks nice though.

celticdog · « **Reply #16 on:** 19 August 2015, 11:47:51 am »

I use this-

https://www.bullseyecarparts.co.uk/category/detail/car-maintenance/maintenance-products/grease/carlube-100-spray-grease-aerosol-400-ml

It's a bargain at £3.78 for 400ml, compatible with O rings, also my chain of choice as I'm a tight ar*ed git!

fazersharp · « **Reply #17 on:** 19 August 2015, 12:45:20 pm »

Quote from: darrsi on 19 August 2015, 11:37:11 am

Quote from: fazersharp on 19 August 2015, 09:36:53 am
Yes good caveat as in that respect - totally untested

Looks nice though.

Yes - I even like my grease to look clean

joebloggs · « **Reply #18 on:** 21 August 2015, 11:22:02 pm »

Engine oil every time. Just sold a bike that had been sat (in a shed) for about 8 years, moved once or twice at the most, coated in engine oil and never had a tight spot when it went.
Not a case of money, oil is the best lube full stop. How much lube is left in a fancy tin after taking out the propellant, sticky substance that adheres the gunk to the chain, wheels, underside of tail piece, leathers etc etc
A clean rag, a length of cardboard, some protective gloves and oil and you can sort your chain in under a min. (Bike on center stand, soaked rag wrapped around the chain and turn the wheel (by hand of course) Cardboard catches the drips.
Stop waisting your money, even if you are a Jersey Bean

Ruby Racing · « **Reply #19 on:** 21 August 2015, 11:46:03 pm »

Quote from: joebloggs on 21 August 2015, 11:22:02 pm

Stop waisting your money, even if you are a Jersey Bean

fazersharp · « **Reply #20 on:** 22 August 2015, 11:06:05 am »

Quote from: joebloggs on 21 August 2015, 11:22:02 pm

sticky substance that adheres the gunk to the chain, wheels, underside of tail piece, leathers etc etc

Thats the reason I use the one i do because it does not fling off - unlike engine oil

darrsi · « **Reply #21 on:** 22 August 2015, 12:40:17 pm »

Surely engine oil will fling off, or wash off in rain, unless you have a constant oiler fitted?

stevierst · « **Reply #22 on:** 22 August 2015, 01:54:21 pm »

No, not really. With the mileage I do (200miles/week ish), I just used engine oil on the chain once per week before fitting an oiler, seemed to last in all Weathers.

An oiler is obviously a hell of a lot better though, keeps it nice and moist

I tried the chain waxes, and spray on oils, but they just caused the front sprocket cover to clag up with gritty grease a lot quicker, and the shite that collects in there is like grinding paste to a chain. It was also horrific stuff to remove ;D

7omly · « **Reply #23 on:** 22 August 2015, 04:37:20 pm »

Gearbox oil, EP90. It will stink but paint it on sparingly and it will rustproof, lubricate and will not be thrown off. I've used it to rustproof all manner of things motorcycle, if only the stink wasn't so bad. Beware though if you don't wear gloves you'll never get the smell off your hands.

darrsi · « **Reply #24 on:** 22 August 2015, 06:38:00 pm »

Quote from: 7omly on 22 August 2015, 04:37:20 pm

Gearbox oil, EP90. It will stink but paint it on sparingly and it will rustproof, lubricate and will not be thrown off. I've used it to rustproof all manner of things motorcycle, if only the stink wasn't so bad. Beware though if you don't wear gloves you'll never get the smell off your hands.

I have no sense of smell.