Author Topic: ? rear caliper (Read 4204 times)

mr wayneker · « **on:** 14 June 2015, 10:19:11 am »

hi all
after taking my rear caliper off.....its shot to shit..one piston comes out one stays in..
I thought it was by the way it came to a stop.......any hoooo

my question is what make or other models do these brakes come off that will fit straight back on
now with out a bike....can see a re-con set on ebay for £140 ish....the other set sounds a bit dodgy

all I wanted to do was a clean down of the brakes get the crud of the pistons,sproose them up a bit..

oh and I noticed there were no support pads down the bottom under the pads when I took them out...

I live down in devon

darrsi · « **Reply #1 on:** 14 June 2015, 10:38:02 am »

Support pads?

Normally, new seals and a bit of TLC and cleaning can suffice, but if it's really fooked then start hunting for a "fully working" caliper on Ebay, or do a free online motorcycle breaker parts search.
The "fully working" description part is vital, 'cos if it's shite you have a valid reason for a swap or money back.

mr wayneker · « **Reply #2 on:** 14 June 2015, 10:58:46 am »

hi darrsi

don't think new seals and pistons are gonna cut it....when pumping the brake to move piston out...
the seals were getting pushed out with it ...looks like the wall around the piston has started to brake away.

Yamaha support pad number 6 on the parts list AJ SUTTON

there is one on ebay re-con looks ok £148 sound ok on price?

darrsi · « **Reply #3 on:** 14 June 2015, 11:22:12 am »

Support pad not needed at all, more of an anti squeal item, but a light smear of copper grease sorts that out.

£148 way too much, you should be looking around the £50 mark.

Put a request in the "for sale/wanted" section on here for starters, lots of people have upgraded to the 1000 caliper so may have one laying about.
If maintained on a regular basis the 600 caliper is more than enough, but when neglected they go tits up. (technical term)

mr wayneker · « **Reply #4 on:** 14 June 2015, 11:31:18 am »

ok thank you....

now ive got the caliper off...I think I might strip it right back...have a look then put it back together for shits and giggles

darrsi · « **Reply #5 on:** 14 June 2015, 01:52:54 pm »

Rather rare, you have 3 days to consider.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-fazer-1000-fzs1000-rear-caliper-fazer-600-/321779837873?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4aeb92abb1

mr wayneker · « **Reply #6 on:** 14 June 2015, 07:25:00 pm »

do I have to mod the caliper mount?????

anutz · « **Reply #7 on:** 14 June 2015, 08:27:16 pm »

here is what i did.....there are other ways but mine seems ok, still needs to get throught the MOT but thats due to other issues...

http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,17138.0.html

paulchucky · « **Reply #8 on:** 14 June 2015, 08:56:40 pm »

post it to me n i`ll refurb it for you

mr wayneker · « **Reply #9 on:** 14 June 2015, 09:34:46 pm »

they are beyond referb paulchucky......

well that was a task....striped them apart got pistons out removed seals got out all the crud.....

binned the dust seals to far gone..polished pistons went back in lovely with a bit of brake fluid on.....didn't put new banjo seals on
and didn't replace the seal between the two calipers.....no point if im getting second hand caliper.....now I have brakes for a bit longer

will keep an eye on any leaks....no binding no judder both pistons in and out.......shall do for now

are the blue dot rear any better than the oem fzs600 caliper?????

paulchucky · « **Reply #10 on:** 14 June 2015, 09:40:40 pm »

Quote from: mr wayneker on 14 June 2015, 09:34:46 pm

they are beyond referb paulchucky......

well that was a task....striped them apart got pistons out removed seals got out all the crud.....

binned the dust seals to far gone..polished pistons went back in lovely with a bit of brake fluid on.....didn't put new banjo seals on
and didn't replace the seal between the two calipers.....no point if im getting second hand caliper.....now I have brakes for a bit longer

will keep an eye on any leaks....no binding no judder both pistons in and out.......shall do for now

are the blue dot rear any better than the oem fzs600 caliper?????

that`s your opinion
send it to me if you think its scrap
i`ll pay the postage thanks
Paul

anutz · « **Reply #11 on:** 14 June 2015, 09:44:24 pm »

The pistons are a little bigger, few mm, not sure how that translates but suspect its a little more bit, it also looks nicer...

i changed mine as i was lucky to spot one from the USA for 51£ shipped, so jumped on it, else i would have been happy with a 600 OEM one....

Main benefit for me is that the caliper has much better drainage

mr wayneker · « **Reply #12 on:** 14 June 2015, 09:51:46 pm »

that's what I thought open bottom although the oem has two holes in the bottom....

paulchucky...the wall at the front of the dust cover is starting to fall away and reveal the dust cover 1mm 2mm gaps allround
like a rat has been at it.....when I get new one your welcome to it.

Val · « **Reply #13 on:** 14 June 2015, 09:55:34 pm »

Quote from: mr wayneker on 14 June 2015, 10:58:46 am

hi darrsi

don't think new seals and pistons are gonna cut it....when pumping the brake to move piston out...
the seals were getting pushed out with it ...looks like the wall around the piston has started to brake away.

Yamaha support pad number 6 on the parts list AJ SUTTON

there is one on ebay re-con looks ok £148 sound ok on price?

That sounds expensive. I am planning to do a caliper exchange at some point.

There is a company you send them the old caliper they send you back immediately the same brand refurbished one. And by refirbished they mean better than rebuild with complete makeover with new parts if needed.

http://www.powerhouseautomotive.co.uk/content/motorcycle-brakes/motorcycle-brake-caliper-exchange-service.php

They have ebay shop too. And are an UK based company with calipers for sporty cars and bikes their main business, not some dodgy ebay seller.

I do not think it is wise idea to trust your life to some non-professional about brakes.

I do a lot of bike DIY but I would not trust myself for that matter.

If I was you I would give them a call.

anutz · « **Reply #14 on:** 14 June 2015, 09:57:16 pm »

i have been in touch with these guys as well, very helpful, ended up not needing them but have heard the recommended on here before....

sinto · « **Reply #15 on:** 14 June 2015, 10:05:04 pm »

Quote from: anutz on 14 June 2015, 09:44:24 pm

i changed mine as i was lucky to spot one from the USA for 51£ shipped

Ahhem?

anutz · « **Reply #16 on:** 14 June 2015, 10:08:43 pm »

Quote from: sinto on 14 June 2015, 10:05:04 pm

Quote from: anutz on 14 June 2015, 09:44:24 pm

i changed mine as i was lucky to spot one from the USA for 51£ shipped

Ahhem?

ooops...sorry Sinto....i should re-phrase, i was lucky to have Sinto point one out.....

sinto · « **Reply #17 on:** 14 June 2015, 10:11:12 pm »

Quote from: anutz on 14 June 2015, 10:08:43 pm

Quote from: sinto on 14 June 2015, 10:05:04 pm
Quote from: anutz on 14 June 2015, 09:44:24 pm

i changed mine as i was lucky to spot one from the USA for 51£ shipped

Ahhem?

ooops...sorry Sinto....i should re-phrase, i was lucky to have Sinto point one out.....

I'll let you off anutz as it's Sunday and had a good ride out today with my mate and my boy, oh and my nice clean wheels and rear sprocket, my mate was really impressed

he said it made me look as if I was going faster too

mr wayneker · « **Reply #18 on:** 14 June 2015, 10:22:02 pm »

that looks good to me....same price buying blind on ebay......surely they cant referb cast that's breaking away

hang on they don't send old ones back when done do they?????

Val · « **Reply #19 on:** 15 June 2015, 02:12:51 am »

Quote from: mr wayneker on 14 June 2015, 10:22:02 pm

that looks good to me....same price buying blind on ebay......surely they cant referb cast that's breaking away

hang on they don't send old ones back when done do they?????

They do actually if you can afford to wait till they rebuild or refurbish it they will send you back your original caliper if you want. Exchange is for guys that can't wait.

paulchucky · « **Reply #20 on:** 15 June 2015, 07:17:32 pm »

Quote from: mr wayneker on 14 June 2015, 09:51:46 pm

that's what I thought open bottom although the oem has two holes in the bottom....

paulchucky...the wall at the front of the dust cover is starting to fall away and reveal the dust cover 1mm 2mm gaps allround
like a rat has been at it.....when I get new one your welcome to it.

as i said send it my way just let me know
cheers P

mr wayneker · « **Reply #21 on:** 15 June 2015, 10:17:51 pm »

thanks all....val I don't want them back like I said the wall around the piston is puling away
so when the dust cover is in you can see it at certain points around the piston......looks like I might go for the fzs1000 one on that selling site.....

took the front ones off tonight one side was a right mucking chunt to get the pad pin out.....after scrubbing up....its FREEEEEE AS A BIRD NOW..
will at some point do a rebuild on them...I do think the front ones are a better build than the back one..don't you think

been out of this game for 24 years ....to long gonna go for the chain tightening tomorrow.........wish me luck..lol

mr wayneker · « **Reply #22 on:** 19 June 2015, 10:05:38 pm »

only went and found a rear brake caliper on ebay....right on my door step
had brake lever foot rest master cylinder on...told the guy I didn't want the other stuff...so he said take a tenner of and take the lot

best £50 ive spent in a long run.........all clean inside lovely jubbly

so went out to bed the brakes in....and......snapped the clutch cable......fooooooook

anutz · « **Reply #23 on:** 19 June 2015, 10:29:38 pm »

oh no

, not done that before....what happened, how did it snap.....it must be worn????

mr wayneker · « **Reply #24 on:** 19 June 2015, 11:02:25 pm »

it was worn...just put a new post up....had to push it 3km...with a full tank and up hill