Author Topic: Bit of a weird one (Read 13966 times)

anutz · « **Reply #25 on:** 16 June 2015, 09:07:29 pm »

one some of the newer models i think thats gone, like on mine, the pipes are not attached to the tank, but the holes rest into a fixed bowl the pipes are fitted to the underside, its fitted on top of the airbox and routes, so you can move your tank around and off with no concern for kinking....etc...

darrsi · « **Reply #26 on:** 16 June 2015, 09:13:26 pm »

Yep, what "anutz" said, no kinky pipes on my bike!

anutz · « **Reply #27 on:** 16 June 2015, 09:16:50 pm »

so whats the orange stuff then?

darrsi · « **Reply #28 on:** 16 June 2015, 09:17:19 pm »

Quote from: anutz on 16 June 2015, 08:38:14 pm

so what is the orange stuff, and why is it coming out of the fuel pipe, its not tango is it?

It's not coming out of the fuel pipe, if it was I would hazard a guess the bike would sound like a bucket of nuts and bolts.
I believe it's a mixture of moisture and oil that collects over time at the bottom of the air box.
This time wasn't too bad, when I first got the bike it was swimming in the stuff when I opened up the air box.

darrsi · « **Reply #29 on:** 16 June 2015, 09:31:10 pm »

These photo's were taken when I first got the bike.

Yas1 · « **Reply #30 on:** 16 June 2015, 09:52:36 pm »

That gunk looks like an oil+water emulsion. Are you sure it's not coming out of the crankcase breather? Have you changed the oil recently, was that OK?

darrsi · « **Reply #31 on:** 16 June 2015, 10:02:40 pm »

Oil's recent and fine.
Last photos are seven years old.

Jules-C · « **Reply #32 on:** 17 June 2015, 07:50:07 am »

Crankcase breather pipes will be choked with oil emulsion over last 15 years or so. Clean it out from air box and take pipes off to clean them through. Be 15 years before need to do it again

anutz · « **Reply #33 on:** 17 June 2015, 08:32:00 am »

might give mine a little fettle see whats in them whilst i have the tank off.....

darrsi · « **Reply #34 on:** 17 June 2015, 11:06:32 am »

Quote from: Jules-C on 17 June 2015, 07:50:07 am

Crankcase breather pipes will be choked with oil emulsion over last 15 years or so. Clean it out from air box and take pipes off to clean them through. Be 15 years before need to do it again

Air box is clean as a whistle now, but where exactly are the breather pipes you're on about?

paulchucky · « **Reply #35 on:** 17 June 2015, 02:56:21 pm »

i`ll get a photo later

but you`ll have to tell how to upload it

never works when i try ??

Jules-C · « **Reply #36 on:** 17 June 2015, 04:10:05 pm »

I'll give it a go too when I get home. Never tried putting a photo on here before so anything could happen

darrsi · « **Reply #37 on:** 17 June 2015, 04:23:32 pm »

When you've got your photo online, or on your phone, choose "Additional Options" underneath the box for writing in when you reply, then browse for your photo.

You do have to have something written as well, even if it's just a full stop.

Press "(more attachments)" if you want to send more than one photo. (up to 4 per post)

anutz · « **Reply #38 on:** 17 June 2015, 04:33:10 pm »

here is mine on a spare engine - the one with red dots on - i added them!

paulchucky · « **Reply #39 on:** 17 June 2015, 05:45:28 pm »

Quote from: darrsi on 17 June 2015, 04:23:32 pm

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pipes

anutz · « **Reply #40 on:** 17 June 2015, 06:02:44 pm »

so they are they fuel breather and overflow i think???

the one i posted has the main crankase breather with red dots on it.....thats the one i think you are asking about???

darrsi · « **Reply #41 on:** 17 June 2015, 06:19:48 pm »

Quote from: paulchucky on 17 June 2015, 05:45:28 pm

Quote from: darrsi on 17 June 2015, 04:23:32 pm
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pipes

They're tank pipes which I said before my bike doesn't have, you must have an older model.
The one Anutz has shown is one, and the other is on the left side of the engine buried somewhere?

darrsi · « **Reply #42 on:** 17 June 2015, 06:22:42 pm »

I presume 31 & 33

Jules-C · « **Reply #43 on:** 17 June 2015, 06:33:32 pm »

Pipes connect to both front bottom corners of the air box. If the pictures load in one of them you can see it between the idle adjuster screw and the clutch cable. The pipes connect to a T piece and then join the pipe coming out the top of the gearbox. There is a black plastic connector that has a piece of sponge in it that acts as a firetrap to stop you setting fire to the oil in the engine if the bike backfires through the air box.

Jules-C · « **Reply #44 on:** 17 June 2015, 06:37:52 pm »

Quote from: darrsi on 17 June 2015, 06:22:42 pm

I presume 31 & 33

31 and the other pipes will be on airbox fiche. Don't recognise 33 it might be the tank breather for the later models

anutz · « **Reply #45 on:** 17 June 2015, 06:49:58 pm »

Are you sure those 2 pipes either side of the air box are for crank case ventilation?

I thought they were for drainage?

I could swear a while ago i was told that somewhere on here as i asked what they were for...

i need to go look at my bike

darrsi · « **Reply #46 on:** 17 June 2015, 07:00:49 pm »

I'm confused now.
You're now saying air box pipes, not crankcase?

anutz · « **Reply #47 on:** 17 June 2015, 07:50:19 pm »

so there have been a few pipes mentioned...

Fuel Overflow
Fuel Breather
Crank Case Ventilation - i showed a pic of what i believe that to be, and the service manual only identifies one Crank Case Breather

The other 2 pipes that form a T coming from either side of the airbox and meet with a pipe from the gearbox i am not sure what they are for...i am sure they are just for venting the airbox and gearbox, not crankcase....

point is i am not aware of more than one crank case breather

clear as mud

Jules-C · « **Reply #48 on:** 17 June 2015, 07:55:13 pm »

They connect the crankcase breather to the air box so any fumes/oil mist get sucked through the cylinders and burnt instead of dribbling out and leaving an oily puddle when you park the bike.

anutz · « **Reply #49 on:** 17 June 2015, 09:04:42 pm »

OK to update....on my bike...

Crankcase Breather connect from the top of the crankcase to the Air Box directly - no joins to anything else

A hose from either side of the airbox meets in the middle with a T and then the resultant single hose goes over the transmission to a cage on the center stand where it is held and pointed downwards to drain

I have no sign of any hoses connected anywhere else - this is a 2001 FZS 600

Not sure how other people are configured