Fitting FZ1000 Caliper to FZS600

[anutz]

 

[anutz]

A link to the ebay item i purchased as well : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201346306792?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[riedrider]

...so a bargin and its in good condition...

Really? The pad guides are pretty worn. On good calipers the complete surface is flat.

[anutz]

no idea pal - sorting other stuff out - will have a look later, i have to stop spending now so if they won't do the job will have to re-asses.....but they cannot be that bad?!

to be fair as well the pistons i thought were toast....well looking back, they would have worked ok aside from one.....so i am starting to err on the side of it does not have to be crystal perfect to work.....

[anutz]

let me see what they look like after a clean....

[anutz]

ok so you are right again - no idea if this will affect them - anyone have any idea - have i got 51£ of junk?

If so then how do i proceed....can you do anything to them?

[riedrider]

The pads can stick in the groove. I bought a pair of R1 front calipers and one of them had the same problem and I scraped it. On the auction pictures it was not possible to see it because the pads had been installed....

[anutz]

 

i seem to take one step forwards then 10 back.....

[anutz]

cam you fix this or not i.e. can they be smoothed out or machined in any way

[riedrider]

You can try to smooth it out but:
1) The pads will have more play in the guides which may leed to quick wear and negative effects on "brake feeling"
2) The surface of the R1 calipers is anodized to make them resistant to wear. You will loose that surface treatment. But like in your an my case this wear protection might be only something theoretical.

[anutz]

hmmm....

a new caliper OEM is 300$ so 200£ - and to be honest i don't have much more patience left with it right now....MOT is June 12th...

I can only see old FZs600 ones one bay, that would most likely, have their own issues....

have emailed powerhouse performance to see what they think of them and if they have ever dealt with the guides being worn...

looks like its not the bargin it seemed....but then as you say, how can you tell with pads in 

[riedrider]

Why do you not buy in Germany?
This one looks good an shipping is to Europe:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Yamaha-YZF-R1-RN01-RN04-Bremssattel-Bremszange-hinten-/131501069210?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item1e9e13139a
some others with an unclear status:
 http://www.ebay.de/itm/Bremssattel-hinten-Yamaha-R1-RN01-RN04-rear-brake-caliper-/201298870866?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item2ede590252
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Yamaha-YZF-R1-RN01-RN04-Bremssattel-Bremszange-hinten-/131521412003?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item1e9f497ba3

[anutz]

i cannot read german 

Is that one you linked to OK from the looks of it and what the post says?

I shall try translate it....and check the exchange rate

[unfazed]

i seem to take one step forwards then 10 back.....

You could stop taking the step forward as a start point and that might help it

The caliper, file it down a bit with a fine file to smooth it and it will be fine
 

[anutz]

i am taking a step forward....i am learning german...

[riedrider]

Is that one you linked to OK from the looks of it and what the post says?

The seller says that it has scratches an that the condition is visible on the pictures.
And he says that if the item has damages it would be listed in the description.
The pad guides look o.k.

[anutz]

OK so...

Thanks for the idea riedrider.....might need it IF filing them down does not work....i have to try that first...

Unfazed...i shall give it a bash...

[riedrider]

If you want to look for calipers yourself:
"Bremssattel hinten R1" or "Bremszange hinten R1" means "rear brake caliper R1"

[anutz]

danke! 

[riedrider]

Gern geschehen 

[unfazed]

OK so...

Thanks for the idea riedrider.....might need it IF filing them down does not work....i have to try that first...

Unfazed...i shall give it a bash...

It is more important to have good unpitted guide pins as pads use these to slide within the caliper and wear on the caliper body is more often due to worn corroded guide pins and/or poor fitting spurious brake pads. 

Any sign of pitting on the guide pins which cannot be cleaned or removed, means they should be replaced. The guide pins are rarely replaced and when they wear it exacerbates the wear on the caliper body.

[anutz]

ok thanks unfazed, sure enough there are some wear marks on these, but i can pick up some new ones easily...

[anutz]

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/yamaha/YP-5LV-25924-00-00.html

[anutz]

have had a go a cleaning them and with a tad of wet and dry they have come up nicely - smooth enough as well....so it looks like it was just a layer of rubbish..

[His Dudeness]

The caliper should still work but you might hear a bit of a clunk when you hit the brakes because the pads will have a bit of movement