Author Topic: racks/backrest etc (Read 6923 times)

johnakay · « **on:** 22 February 2015, 05:41:57 pm »

how many of you would be interested if I decided to go ahead and make these.
I should be able to keep with in the price that renntec sell them at.

as far as I know the 98 to 2003 models share the same grab rail mount.
can you guys give me a measurement between the two holes one on 98 and 02 or 03 model

I will need to know soon as I've got my eye on a cheap grab rail.

Paulfzs · « **Reply #1 on:** 22 February 2015, 06:13:12 pm »

id like a rack that sits a bit further back, mines got a bar thats right at the end of the pillion seat so not comfy for pillion

johnakay · « **Reply #2 on:** 26 February 2015, 11:06:21 am »

I could do that for you paul.
I will need more info.
renntec has 2 advert for racks .......
1st fit models 98 to 99.
2nd 00 to 03.
one on ebay not rack but grab rail state fit models 98 through to 03.
what I need to know is are they all the same? hole fitment.

johnakay · « **Reply #3 on:** 26 February 2015, 11:32:43 am »

here are some pictures to give you guys some ideas of what I can make.. these are for the new CB500's also other models.
I can get them in powder coat in any colour (just about) and chromed.
I also make for classic bikes too.

johnakay · « **Reply #4 on:** 26 February 2015, 11:33:58 am »

only take one?

johnakay · « **Reply #5 on:** 26 February 2015, 11:35:29 am »

and another...

Paulfzs · « **Reply #6 on:** 26 February 2015, 12:16:14 pm »

the one on my 98 fzs 600

darrsi · « **Reply #7 on:** 26 February 2015, 12:45:03 pm »

Renntec racks are not designed to take weight at all.

I had the sports rack in Paul's picture, and put a top box on it which overtook me one day as i slowed down to go through a 6' 6" barrier, it literally flew past me as the rack just snapped clean in half.

That particular rack has a recommended weight limit of only 5kg.

You have to take into account things like speed bumps, that i go over daily, which over time finds out the weak spots in them.

Paulfzs · « **Reply #8 on:** 26 February 2015, 05:08:40 pm »

yeah the one i posted is broken on the bar that attaches to the grab rail bolt, its snapped along the bolt hole...

ive had 15kg of lead in mine and the rack knew about it !

im yet to have any serious problems with it other than the lack of bars for mounting my topbox which means my topbox came loose and almost fell off.

rhinoeli · « **Reply #9 on:** 26 February 2015, 05:38:07 pm »

I have the same one as Paulfzs has. There is a E52 case with backrest on it. Heavy loads, 10kg+ sometimes. No problems yet.

johnakay · « **Reply #10 on:** 26 February 2015, 07:45:55 pm »

that is the weakest point. it should have had a brace of sort on the side.
similar to this one in the picture below.
I've had customer contacted me if I could repair or make a new rack in place of renntec's.
after all these years you would have thought they would know about metal fatigue etc.
none of mine ever snapped only the very early ones.
tubings that I used are 20mm x 2mm wall

Paulfzs · « **Reply #11 on:** 26 February 2015, 07:49:47 pm »

i use a 58 litre topbox on my fazer and usualy fill it with 5kg-15kg of stuff most days...
Feel free to make a rack that doesnt flex and can handle it ill happily review it

im happy to pay postage.

johnakay · « **Reply #12 on:** 26 February 2015, 07:51:51 pm »

before I can do anything,I need to know if the holes are the same on all fazers 98 to 03.

Paulfzs · « **Reply #13 on:** 26 February 2015, 08:09:41 pm »

iirc theyre exactly the same

Paulfzs · « **Reply #14 on:** 26 February 2015, 08:14:26 pm »

Quote from: Paulfzs on 26 February 2015, 08:09:41 pm

iirc theyre exactly the same

1998-2003 grabrail
so the same
http://www.fazerspares.com/items/129-1_3120-grab-rail-metal.htm

johnakay · « **Reply #15 on:** 26 February 2015, 08:29:32 pm »

paulfz have you still got the snapped rack?
this so that I get the right height.

Paulfzs · « **Reply #16 on:** 26 February 2015, 10:27:14 pm »

yes ive still got it, its still attached to my bike lol

epoxy resined to hold it together

infiniteloop · « **Reply #17 on:** 26 February 2015, 10:45:59 pm »

Interesting post…I was wondering about a sissy-bar for my '98 Fazer 600, do they exist..? My girlfriend rides pillion now & again but she likes the top box on the bike as she can rest against it, but I hate the top box so would be interested in a back-rest or sissy-bar

stevierst · « **Reply #18 on:** 27 February 2015, 07:04:19 am »

I've made racks for a couple of guys on here, and I can say that the mounting points are all the same for the Fzs600 regardless of years.

I used box section rather than tubing, and toyed with the idea of using support struts going from the rear of the rack down at 45 degrees to the swivel bungee rings below the tail light. You could pretty much load it up with anything then without fear of breakage. (had a Renntec fail on me too!) The one I made for my Thundercat uses this, and I load it up with a Hell of a lot of kit!

I be just had a look, but I've deleted the pictures of the mock up I did for it.

Worth a thought for your next design.

darrsi · « **Reply #19 on:** 27 February 2015, 07:20:43 am »

Quote from: Paulfzs on 26 February 2015, 07:49:47 pm

i use a 58 litre topbox on my fazer and usualy fill it with 5kg-15kg of stuff most days...
Feel free to make a rack that doesnt flex and can handle it ill happily review it im happy to pay postage.

The 5kg weight limit would include the weight of the box as well, not just what's inside the box.
I realise 5kg is probably a little bit over precautious but if you Google "renntec rack snapped" you'll see it's a common occurrence.
I use the Givi monorack bars now which have two mounting points rather than just the one, and are certainly designed more to take the heavy weight of a top box.

You have to take into consideration braking, accelerating, braking, accelerating, speed bumps, pot holes, cobbled roads, going off a kerb, etc, the constant momentum puts a lot of strain on these lightweight racks, even worse still if you have someone resting their back on the top box!

noggythenog · « **Reply #20 on:** 27 February 2015, 07:31:49 am »

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darrsi · « **Reply #21 on:** 27 February 2015, 07:32:27 am »

Quote from: stevierst on 27 February 2015, 07:04:19 am

I've made racks for a couple of guys on here, and I can say that the mounting points are all the same for the Fzs600 regardless of years.

I used box section rather than tubing, and toyed with the idea of using support struts going from the rear of the rack down at 45 degrees to the swivel bungee rings below the tail light. You could pretty much load it up with anything then without fear of breakage. (had a Renntec fail on me too!) The one I made for my Thundercat uses this, and I load it up with a Hell of a lot of kit!

I be just had a look, but I've deleted the pictures of the mock up I did for it.

Worth a thought for your next design.

"...I be just had a look..."

CCrikey you sound like a pirate.

darrsi · « **Reply #22 on:** 27 February 2015, 07:33:53 am »

Quote from: noggythenog on 27 February 2015, 07:31:49 am

Yous guys need a c.....c.......ca.......ca.......ca........ca........ca.........

Here's a pic of a c...c....c.....ca.....ca...ca

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Here's a pic of one portraying the lifes that it could bring you

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darrsi · « **Reply #23 on:** 27 February 2015, 07:48:39 am »

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noggythenog · « **Reply #24 on:** 27 February 2015, 07:50:33 am »

Quote from: darrsi on 27 February 2015, 07:48:39 am

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