Author Topic: Brake Pad Replacement (Read 13861 times)

Skippernick · « **on:** 14 February 2015, 04:07:30 pm »

Just passed MOT with an advisory for low front brake pads.

Now these are the originals so time for some decent ones.
What is the order of brake pads? 1. Sintered 2. Ceramic 3. Organic.

Organic are dusty and soft, I Know.
Ceramic are good power but not dusty?
Sintered are the ones that chew disc's but lots of stopping power?

Is my understanding correct?
Please advise and recommend with links.

Thanks Guys.

Gnasher · « **Reply #1 on:** 14 February 2015, 06:01:40 pm »

OE are good but they are rather pricey.

Go for SBS they bite harder than OE and have very good wear rate way better than anything else out there in my opinion you need, 634 HS*

Punkstig · « **Reply #2 on:** 14 February 2015, 06:56:40 pm »

Yes your understanding is correct, or at least it's the same as mine!
No intention of turning this into a which is better thread, but of all the pads I've gone through over the miles ferodo's platinum pads are my favourite, mainly because their performance in the wet is on par with the dry (which is good enough for track use!)

rhinoeli · « **Reply #3 on:** 14 February 2015, 08:02:54 pm »

I am very satisified with EBC HH-s.

Chris · « **Reply #4 on:** 14 February 2015, 11:23:41 pm »

I've got sbs ceramic pads and they've been great wet and dry.

Hated the ebc pads I tried, organic ones were far too dusty and the HH sintered ones had no feel and started chewing through the discs at a rather alarming rate.

darrsi · « **Reply #5 on:** 15 February 2015, 12:04:16 am »

Galfer, on Ebay, brilliant on the front, easy on the discs and just don't seem to wear out at all?

Paulfzs · « **Reply #6 on:** 15 February 2015, 01:48:28 am »

dare i say it, ive always used cheap £8 brake pads and had no real issue, not changed pads on the fazer yet though.

they last a fair amount of time and stop pretty well.

Deefer666 · « **Reply #7 on:** 15 February 2015, 07:10:51 am »

Anything but Armstrong pads which are basically blocks of wood, I like SBS but normally fit EBC HH because they are easy to obtain and thats what I stock on the shelf in the shop.

Gnasher · « **Reply #8 on:** 15 February 2015, 09:21:09 am »

EBC were good up until they were bought out sometime in the early 00's. Compared to SBS or OE they lack initial bite, have a wooden feel to them, are very hard on dics and wear fast, they are easy to get hold of and tend to be cheaper than most others.

They're other makes available but in terms of outright performance like for like there's nothing in it this side of a track. It's about how they feel and wear over the years I've fitted just about all that's available and in my opinion SBS are the best closely followed by OE.

One man's poison and all that!

Deefer666 · « **Reply #9 on:** 15 February 2015, 10:13:37 am »

I am tempted by TRW pads at the moment with the deals getting offered to me by my supplier, I might have to try a set soon

Gnasher · « **Reply #10 on:** 15 February 2015, 10:29:50 am »

Quote from: Deefer666 on 15 February 2015, 10:13:37 am

I am tempted by TRW pads at the moment with the deals getting offered to me by my supplier, I might have to try a set soon

Made by Lucas big in the US, I know of a few who have tried them mostly on track bikes. The feed back I have is there are about the same as EBC but cheaper they wear quick and eat discs

Nearly all have gone back to Bendix or SBS probably race pads (please don't fit race pads to road bikes it will end in

) not the best comparison track V's road but you still get a good idea of feel and comparisons of wear.

Skippernick · « **Reply #11 on:** 15 February 2015, 12:44:41 pm »

Thanks guys.

fazersharp · « **Reply #12 on:** 15 February 2015, 02:07:32 pm »

Ive got carbone Lorraine A3+ shintered in mine put them in when I put stainless braided hoses on in 2008 and I chose them from advice on this forum--- so was that a mistake are they eating my discs, can anyone tell me anything about them as no one has mentioned them in this post

darrsi · « **Reply #13 on:** 15 February 2015, 02:18:57 pm »

Quote from: fazersharp on 15 February 2015, 02:07:32 pm

Ive got carbone Lorraine A3+ shintered in mine put them in when I put stainless braided hoses on in 2008 and I chose them from advice on this forum--- so was that a mistake are they eating my discs, can anyone tell me anything about them as no one has mentioned them in this post

Erm, shouldn't it be you telling us?

Gnasher · « **Reply #14 on:** 15 February 2015, 02:26:16 pm »

Quote from: fazersharp on 15 February 2015, 02:07:32 pm

Ive got carbone Lorraine A3+ shintered in mine put them in when I put stainless braided hoses on in 2008 and I chose them from advice on this forum--- so was that a mistake are they eating my discs, can anyone tell me anything about them as no one has mentioned them in this post

No there were the bench mark pad and are top notch, but they were expensive almost as much as OE! For some unknown reason they have stopped being made or imported for bikes the sole importer now only deals in car applications, perhaps it was the price I don't know.

You can still get old stock but this tends to be for rear pads or the less common bikes for the fronts.

fazersharp · « **Reply #15 on:** 15 February 2015, 02:29:58 pm »

I just stuck them in after reading hear but that was in 08 and I cant remember what was said. They work, they stop me when I pull the leaver that is about all I can tell you.
Its just it got me to thinking when I read here people saying that shintered eat your disks or is it just the EBC HH ones.

fazersharp · « **Reply #16 on:** 15 February 2015, 02:33:56 pm »

Quote from: Gnasher on 15 February 2015, 02:26:16 pm

Quote from: fazersharp on 15 February 2015, 02:07:32 pm
Ive got carbone Lorraine A3+ shintered in mine put them in when I put stainless braided hoses on in 2008 and I chose them from advice on this forum--- so was that a mistake are they eating my discs, can anyone tell me anything about them as no one has mentioned them in this post

No there were the bench mark pad and are top notch, but they were expensive almost as much as OE! For some unknown reason they have stopped being made or imported for bikes the sole importer now only deals in car applications, perhaps it was the price I don't know.

You can still get old stock but this tends to be for rear pads or the less common bikes for the fronts.

Thank you that is the kind of info I was looking for.
I have always had the principle that I dont do footbal or golf or anything else and the bike is for fun only and is not my comute bike that I have to make pay so I dont mind paying out for the best stuff.
I was wondering why no one has mentioned them - cause you cant get em now then

Skippernick · « **Reply #17 on:** 15 February 2015, 02:40:01 pm »

Quote from: Punkstig on 14 February 2015, 06:56:40 pm

Yes your understanding is correct, or at least it's the same as mine!
No intention of turning this into a which is better thread, but of all the pads I've gone through over the miles ferodo's platinum pads are my favourite, mainly because their performance in the wet is on par with the dry (which is good enough for track use!)

Punk, can't find these for my bike on flea bay, or do you get them form another source?

darrsi · « **Reply #18 on:** 15 February 2015, 05:55:09 pm »

Quote from: fazersharp on 15 February 2015, 02:29:58 pm

I just stuck them in after reading hear but that was in 08 and I cant remember what was said. They work, they stop me when I pull the leaver that is about all I can tell you.
Its just it got me to thinking when I read here people saying that shintered eat your disks or is it just the EBC HH ones.

It's sintered mate, shintered is what Sean Connery has on his bike.

Chris · « **Reply #19 on:** 16 February 2015, 02:53:46 am »

Quote from: darrsi on 15 February 2015, 05:55:09 pm

Quote from: fazersharp on 15 February 2015, 02:29:58 pm
I just stuck them in after reading hear but that was in 08 and I cant remember what was said. They work, they stop me when I pull the leaver that is about all I can tell you.
Its just it got me to thinking when I read here people saying that shintered eat your disks or is it just the EBC HH ones.

It's sintered mate, shintered is what Sean Connery has on his bike.

stevierst · « **Reply #20 on:** 16 February 2015, 07:34:50 am »

Been usind Bendix MF pads for a while now on a couple of my bikes. They have excellent feel from cold, and I've not managed to fade the brakes yet. Also they have never let me down in the wet.
A little cheaper than EBC, and perform as good, if not better from cold.

Fazafou · « **Reply #21 on:** 16 February 2015, 08:18:45 am »

Brake pads are like tyres on that the choice is dependent on the type of riding you do. A weekend warrior that rags the bike hard on dry roads will have very different needs from the pads than a commuter who rides through all weather's.

A very general way of looking at it is:
Organic - best in dry conditions, dusty but low wear on your discs. Not great in the wet, so generally not a great choice for all weather riders.
Sintered, not as good from cold but good once warm and much better in the wet than organic. Higher wear rate on discs.

The brands etc will always split people just like tyre choice, so it's almost a case of trying them out to find what you like.

darrsi · « **Reply #22 on:** 16 February 2015, 01:11:36 pm »

Quote from: Fazafou on 16 February 2015, 08:18:45 am

Brake pads are like tyres on that the choice is dependent on the type of riding you do. A weekend warrior that rags the bike hard on dry roads will have very different needs from the pads than a commuter who rides through all weather's.

A very general way of looking at it is:
Organic - best in dry conditions, dusty but low wear on your discs. Not great in the wet, so generally not a great choice for all weather riders.
Sintered, not as good from cold but good once warm and much better in the wet than organic. Higher wear rate on discs.

The brands etc will always split people just like tyre choice, so it's almost a case of trying them out to find what you like.

Don't forget ceramic and semi metallic.

Fazafou · « **Reply #23 on:** 16 February 2015, 01:45:49 pm »

Keeping it simple

JoeRock · « **Reply #24 on:** 16 February 2015, 02:02:39 pm »

Best I've ever used were Carbone Lorraine. They've got loads on eBay, just search FZS600 Carbone Lorraine. It's the blue ones you want (their road spec).
I've been running them for a while interspersed with the occasional other brand and they've always been the best, am about to try brembos though just to see what they're like!