safe experts

[adeejaysdelight]

the safe went to the scrap yard no questions were asked?

How much did you get for it in scrap? 

[Dead Eye]

I'll take a guess at 120kg - I reckon much higher would be pushing it for two "average" people to carry

I had to cart a 95kg package up three flights of stairs with the help of the delivery driver... damn thing almost killed us and I was certainly grateful for his help

[slimwilly]

175 kgs Mr Red

[bri h]

i dont do metric but i recon it weighs 1 ton. I think its where red keeps his big white fivers.

[Gingernutz]

Google tastic...............

Ratner was a very reputable manufacturer of safes and this one probably dates back to the late 1920's or early 30's.  It would be described as a safe deposit box or jewelers overnight safe.

The problem is that this type of safe is not acceptable by insurers because of its obsolete design so it use is limited to confidential documents and petty cash.  To a dealer in used safes it has very little value and it would probably cost more for them to collect it than it is worth.  However, these older safes often find buyers on eBay so it is worth putting up for auction for around £150 - but be sure to state that the buyer must collect

Weight wise 75 kg    ......

Inside is a map showing the stable where Lord Lucan and Elvis keep Shergar

[noggythenog]

I think Bri h will win this.......i shoulda waited but ive made a guess and gotta stick to it.




Never mind if i oose this one i might get a chance when red does guess how many sweets in this jar

[Hedgetrimmer]

Never mind if i oose this one i might get a chance when red does guess how many sweets in this jar

Werther's Originals? 

[red98]

Google tastic...............

Ratner was a very reputable manufacturer of safes and this one probably dates back to the late 1920's or early 30's.  It would be described as a safe deposit box or jewelers overnight safe.

The problem is that this type of safe is not acceptable by insurers because of its obsolete design so it use is limited to confidential documents and petty cash.  To a dealer in used safes it has very little value and it would probably cost more for them to collect it than it is worth.  However, these older safes often find buyers on eBay so it is worth putting up for auction for around £150 - but be sure to state that the buyer must collect

Weight wise 75 kg    ......




thank you gingernutz, most helpful..........theres a simular one on the bay for £200 BIN.been on there for a few days now, not sure what to do with it but its far to good to scrap, if it ends up on ebay it will be 99p start and see what happens, at the end of the day I think its only worth what someones prepared to pay......I need to do a bit more research on the age of it so a check over later today for a model no and then an email to the makers.........75 kgs mmmmmmmm, I think its a lot more than that, I had it forked onto my truck, dont think two people will be able to lift it.......not even 2 manly gen 1 owners 

Inside is a map showing the stable where Lord Lucan and Elvis keep Shergar

[red98]

Ok.some good guesses there...time for my guess, I think slimwilly is probably the closest with 175 kgs...iam going higher with a guess of  200kgs...it wouldn't surprise me if it was a bit more but 1/4 ton sounds a bit too much.....will be weighed tomorrow at work and then kept in my workshop untill I decide what to do with it....the weight will probably make the decision for me.i make prototype furniture and am a chair maker by trade, I love these coffee tables using engine blocks to support them and was hpping to do something along these lines with the safe, but for domestic furniture it does need to be able to move easily.......no real usable use as gingernutz has explained but I do like the look of it and the fact its "made in england".....

[darrsi]

I'll take a guess at 120kg - I reckon much higher would be pushing it for two "average" people to carry

I had to cart a 95kg package up three flights of stairs with the help of the delivery driver... damn thing almost killed us and I was certainly grateful for his help

It's a lot easier when they're alive! 

[noggythenog]

Can you turn it into a fancy post box for your house Red?........or maybe like a self locking store for the delivery men to put parcels in etc......door open and when they close it...it automatically locks.

[darrsi]

What's the dimensions?
First impressions, judging by the heavy gear i lift at work, 180kg.

[noggythenog]

What's the dimensions?
First impressions, judging by the heavy gear i lift at work, 180kg.

Too bad Darrsi i've already guessed 180 & im pretty greedy........i might share the prize depending on what it is.


My theory was that it cant be 100kg or less because people can squat that and just pinch it.......albeit i wouldnt be escaping very quickly.......a tonne would become uneconomical............&'the physical size would need to be massive.......so as a compromise of all factors then i came up with 180kg..........50kg for each side section, 20kg each for the front back top and bottoms...........180kg.

[darrsi]

What's the dimensions?
First impressions, judging by the heavy gear i lift at work, 180kg.

Too bad Darrsi i've already guessed 180 & im pretty greedy........i might share the prize depending on what it is.


My theory was that it cant be 100kg or less because people can squat that and just pinch it.......albeit i wouldnt be escaping very quickly.......a tonne would become uneconomical............&'the physical size would need to be massive.......so as a compromise of all factors then i came up with 180kg..........50kg for each side section, 20kg each for the front back top and bottoms...........180kg.

It's meant to be a dead weight, so it would never be light, it wouldn't be designed for one person to just walk away with although some of the shit i lift at work wouldn't be far off it, we could still be completely way off though.
I'll raise you to 220kg. 

[noggythenog]

My mate used to claim that peoples bodies got heavier when they died......."yeh dead weight" he used to say


That's why they're really difficult to carry.


Maybe deadeye can shed some light on that

[Dead Eye]

What's the dimensions?
First impressions, judging by the heavy gear i lift at work, 180kg.

Too bad Darrsi i've already guessed 180 & im pretty greedy........i might share the prize depending on what it is.


My theory was that it cant be 100kg or less because people can squat that and just pinch it.......albeit i wouldnt be escaping very quickly.......a tonne would become uneconomical............&'the physical size would need to be massive.......so as a compromise of all factors then i came up with 180kg..........50kg for each side section, 20kg each for the front back top and bottoms...........180kg.

I agree that people can squat 100kg (I can now) BUT the average joe who doesn't go to the gym probably can't... a few months ago, I would struggle to squat 60-70kg, same with deadlifts. I'm almost at the point that I can deadlift the weight of my car engine... not that I'd ever try to

So, by your same logic that's how I came up with 120kg - I almost went with 140 though :P

[darrsi]

Judging by the keyhole cover what are we looking at, 20 inches high?

[noggythenog]

Thats how i was trying to analyse it deadeye coz simillar to you i can squat circa 100kg for repetitions and im pretty average...likewise i dunno how much i could deadlift as im scared of 1RM and foccin up my back but i regularly do 4 sets of 8 at 100kg.so i dunno if i was wanting to lift something once and dump it on a truck then i reckon id manage the 140kg.......tricky one as it would be a front squat too.


So on that basis then the big boys could probably squat or deadlift a 180kg but the probability goes down as theres just less people capable of that.....so as a happy medium i see 180kg as a good weight........i think im trying to convince myself though 


I love how scientific Reds thread has got




What is the prize by the way Red???

[J_Dub]

My guess, it's got a load of old paperwork in it and weighs 253Kg.
It would look good cleaned up and repainted.

[YamFazFan]

I'm guessing 110kg & it contains a dazzling bicycle light .

[bri h]

If you never had the key I would have told you that the serial number is on the back of the door.

[red98]

Sorry foccers for the lack of updates, had a few problems with wifi in the red household, all sorted now........safe measures...

            Height..........24in                    width..........18in                    depth..........18in



Some good weight guesses but could do with some content guesses.....will update later   

[YamFazFan]

Can we have a clue....have you booked a round-the-world cruise & put a deposit down on a luxury car today?

[noggythenog]

What is in it..........my guess is.......Nothing.

why would someone sell a safe with something still in it if they had the key....doesn't make sense.

so the answer is....Nothing....or air.

[red98]

Ok...catch up time......I wish yamfazfan  ........noggy, your input on weight is very good, infact iam surprised how close you and a few others are getting.....no prizes for micks guess of 65 kgs    .......as you can guess I weighed it today but not going to tell as I think we can get a bit more mileage out of this thread so keep the guesses coming  .....now where did I put that key  .......