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bigralphie

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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #25 on: 19 July 2014, 02:53:30 pm »
Or ride on the grass  ;)

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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #26 on: 19 July 2014, 03:43:56 pm »
Alpinestars side-vented leather jacket
Alpinestars leather jeans
Sidi waterproof boots
Vented Alpinestars summer gloves (made the mistake of buying a cheap Alpinestars pair with suede/felt type fingers which soon wore through)
Freeby Shoei lid

I bought all this gear with the FZ1 in the hot summer of 2006. I've always found that I'm oblivious to the heat when I'm on the move (apart from my thighs getting toasted by the engine). It's when stopped, or when changing out of the gear at work that it becomes uncomfortable.

I remember that 2006 summer, bimbling around on the FZ1 and getting used to it's character. I got caught in a major traffic jam on narrow roads with absolutely no opportunity for filtering. I was stuck. At that moment, the heavens opened and I was deluged with torrential rain and hailstones.

The novelty of rivers of cold rain flowing down the insides of the vented jacket and to my crotch remain with me to this day lol

Christmas present for me this year will be renewing all my gear.

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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #27 on: 19 July 2014, 05:52:58 pm »
back in 1990, wouldnt wear anything except a dodgy green meanie paint job. them were the days..

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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #28 on: 21 July 2014, 08:13:12 pm »
Rode the FJ Rat fighter at the weekend in trainers, cut off jeans, hoodie, lid, & MX gloves. Didn't ride any different to how I normally ride (like a loon). Don't give a stuff whether people approve or not.

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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #29 on: 22 July 2014, 12:27:02 am »
Gotta love that attitude....


Bikes are about freedom of choice I reckon, every individuals got a  right to choose what they wear to ride, it's their life, their skin, their choice.
I ride more and more these days in a piss pot, to me for the pleasure I get from feeling the elements on my face on a warm day it's worlds better than being cocooned in a full face

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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #30 on: 22 July 2014, 07:04:21 am »
Gotta love that attitude....


Bikes are about freedom of choice I reckon, every individuals got a  right to choose what they wear to ride, it's their life, their skin, their choice.
I ride more and more these days in a piss pot, to me for the pleasure I get from feeling the elements on my face on a warm day it's worlds better than being cocooned in a full face


True.
Apart from those who have to help clear up the mess if it goes wrong, or passersby/witnesses who may well be children.
So don't be naive enough to think it is only going to affect you.

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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #31 on: 22 July 2014, 08:09:06 am »
Gotta love that attitude....


Bikes are about freedom of choice I reckon, every individuals got a  right to choose what they wear to ride, it's their life, their skin, their choice.
I ride more and more these days in a piss pot, to me for the pleasure I get from feeling the elements on my face on a warm day it's worlds better than being cocooned in a full face




True.
Apart from those who have to help clear up the mess if it goes wrong, or passersby/witnesses who may well be children.
So don't be naive enough to think it is only going to affect you.

But that's a dangerous road to take Nick. If it's that much of a burden on others, perhaps none of us should ride at all. Perhaps people shouldn't do other dangerous sports - rock climbing, sailing the oceans in a small boat, mountaineering, hang-gliding, parachuting, white-water rafting......all have the potential to kill you, and not everyone always wears the full safety kit doing them.

Yes, I know you are arguing that you can do these things and reduce the risk by wearing good gear, but you can never eliminate the risk entirely, and as I have found out first hand, you can have all the gear and still get pretty mashed up - you are still putting yourself at risk in a way that may affect others should the worst happen.

Lately, I've been wearing some fairly lightweight cargo-style trousers and my hiking boots on the bike - with a proper jacket, gloves, lid - but some would say I should have protective trousers and boots. I'll always recommend to others that they wear full kit if they ask me, but I'm not preaching. The choice has to be down to the individual in the end.

My mate killed himself on my bike wearing leather jacket and jeans, plus lid and gloves of course. Family and friends were devastated. But NO ONE said he shouldn't have ever ridden motorcycles. Everyone accepted that he died doing what he loved best. Better that than a long painful illness stuck in a chair or bed where you can do nothing but suffer the pain and indignity. That can be much harder on that individual's loved ones, and can be a greater burden on the caring professions that look after us when our health fails.

Well, we all know the usual arguments, blah, blah. But as long as it remains the individual's choice, that's what is important. I bet there are as many doctors, paramedics etc who argue about this as well - I doubt they all see it the same way.

LIFE is a risk, and whilst we try to mitigate some of that risk in various ways, we all have to make our own choices how far we take the risk-reduction thing. Or hand all those choices over to a babying, nannying state - which most of us spend plenty of time complaining about cos it removes our freedoms.

Death, illness and injury happen  :eek Part of life is to learn to come to terms with that, in whatever way it happens.

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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #32 on: 22 July 2014, 09:18:05 pm »
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True.
Apart from those who have to help clear up the mess if it goes wrong, or passersby/witnesses who may well be children.
So don't be naive enough to think it is only going to affect you.

You know what happens if you go down that route.  Well before you know it folks will be talking about banning motorbikes, or making em pay for their treatment if they have a spill and so on.

There's other things to consider as well, the dudes who ride like they are on a race track sporting their multi-coloured romper suits and body armour etc.  Perhaps they should try riding in their boxer shorts, they might be safer that way.

I could go on about the go faster knee down wheelie culture promoted by certain bike mags. 

I rode to work today in full leathers.  I rode home with all my kit sticking to me, thank god I don't live that far from my workplace.  Being too hot for too long you become an accident waiting to happen.  I'll be riding to work 70's style tomorrow, bike jacket, jeans, boots, gloves and hat.  It's too darn hot fae me.

As for popping across toon tae see friends or pop to the shops, it's jeans and a T shirt for me, I only stick the hat on cos the law says I must and I don't give a shit what the gear police think.

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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #33 on: 22 July 2014, 10:11:22 pm »
Hence the reason why i started my comment with the TRUE

I agree with all the comments, i wish i was naked  :eek [size=78%] riding back from work today, but put my lid, jacket, gloves, armoured jeans and boots on, like a good boy, but i also think about my children.[/size]


So was merely pointing out that YES it is your choice and a free country etc, but your decision affects others too. As i get older with 2 young daughters my attitudes are changing and i try to think about others thats all.


Don't want to start an argument at all.

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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #34 on: 22 July 2014, 11:01:35 pm »
As I watched some of the Tour De France tonight this topic came to my mind. They reach speeds of up to 60 Mph on their bike in just shorts and tee shirt.


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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #35 on: 22 July 2014, 11:40:22 pm »
Gotta love that attitude....


Bikes are about freedom of choice I reckon, every individuals got a  right to choose what they wear to ride, it's their life, their skin, their choice.
I ride more and more these days in a piss pot, to me for the pleasure I get from feeling the elements on my face on a warm day it's worlds better than being cocooned in a full face


True.
Apart from those who have to help clear up the mess if it goes wrong, or passersby/witnesses who may well be children.
So don't be naive enough to think it is only going to affect you.
Mate...I never said owt about it not affecting passers by should I have a mishap wearing my piss pot and take a chunk out of my mush. The truth is I don't care how it affects passers by should that happen, if I start thinking along those lines or like that I'd have to live at home in an induced coma.. ;)


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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #36 on: 23 July 2014, 12:59:24 am »
For me it's atgatt and others in shorts and trainers make me cringe but its their choice. I try to persuade others to my mind set as the risks do genuinely frighten me but everyone has their idea of acceptable risk and it's each do their own. I'm just thankful that my eldest wears his gear most of the time. As an aside my youngest (15) informed me the other day that he apparently intends to get a yammy 125 when he's 17 which worries me but I did the same so I'll try and guide him to my way of thinking as he already has all the gear but ultimately it is personal choice even if I'm right ;)

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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #37 on: 23 July 2014, 07:16:51 am »
Had to ride with "young" lady friend in yesterdays heat from Brum to the other side of Kidderminster. We ALWAYS wear full gear-because shes a nurse & one of mysons is a fireman who sometimes has to deal with the aftermath of RTAs.
We suffered when we got stuck in roadworks. The only relief was obtained by raising flip top section of helmet. On the return journey I found my riding was "ragged" and  was fantasising about air conditioned cages at one stage.
Saw a guy on a big Triumph cruiser-waistcoat top-no sleeves or gloves-looked on with envy for a split second-then remembered all those spills I had in my cycling youth and the gravel rash that resulted from sliding along the road.
So I will continue to wear ATGATT-the HG jacket has got air vents & I have never needed to use the liner. Similarly with the matching trousers,light weight summer gloves, ankle length boots & the Shoei.
Felt sorry for riders who are stuck in cities like London. At least I can usually choose whether to ride or not.

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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #38 on: 23 July 2014, 07:56:07 am »
as one or two have mentioned its all about risk assesment (as well as personal choice!!!)
if popping to get fuel / shop / etc where i know speed limits are max 40mph then its jeans, trainers, belstaff, if its the ride to work / home to cornwall then its leathers & boots. ( i actually dont have proper bike boots but prefer pair of combat boots, but thats another topic lol)
helmet & gloves 100% of the time, when doing CBT years ago instructor (good mate of mine) aske me to punch brick wall and then drag hand down 3 bricks in my bike gloves , which i duly did, he then asked lad next to me to do it with his bare hands,, surprisingly he refused... as instructor explained natural reaction is to put your hand out to break a fall, even at 10mph you can rip your hand open on tarmac!!
yeah I got gravel rash scar on my hip from when I was 17 & had a spill (virtually faded now but still have the memory!)  so never skimp on my safety...

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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #39 on: 23 July 2014, 06:46:00 pm »
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On the return journey I found my riding was "ragged" and  was fantasising about air conditioned cages at one stage.

Which is exactly my point.  Being uncomfortable on the bike can turn you into an accident waiting to happen.




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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #40 on: 23 July 2014, 11:05:38 pm »
Gotta love that attitude....


Bikes are about freedom of choice I reckon, every individuals got a  right to choose what they wear to ride, it's their life, their skin, their choice.
I ride more and more these days in a piss pot, to me for the pleasure I get from feeling the elements on my face on a warm day it's worlds better than being cocooned in a full face


True.
Apart from those who have to help clear up the mess if it goes wrong, or passersby/witnesses who may well be children.
So don't be naive enough to think it is only going to affect you.


So the thing to do is use a car, with seat belts air bags etc. Many sports should be stopped because they cause injuries for others to clear up. drinking alcohol is a burden to society so should be band.


Living a messy activity.




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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #41 on: 24 July 2014, 02:52:48 am »
speedos

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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #42 on: 26 July 2014, 11:59:22 pm »
A pair of saw off Levis and sandals and no T shirt or helmet, well it was 1972! and I was young and stupid?

Sandels  :eek

Surely the accepted gear at the time was Dunlop Green Flash lol

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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #43 on: 31 July 2014, 06:25:30 pm »
Gotta love that attitude....


Bikes are about freedom of choice I reckon, every individuals got a  right to choose what they wear to ride, it's their life, their skin, their choice.
I ride more and more these days in a piss pot, to me for the pleasure I get from feeling the elements on my face on a warm day it's worlds better than being cocooned in a full face


True.
Apart from those who have to help clear up the mess if it goes wrong, or passersby/witnesses who may well be children.
So don't be naive enough to think it is only going to affect you.


If thats the case then why aren't smokers made responsible for the trauma of putting their family why they die of cancer? If I crash its my own stupid fault and don't ask any help from anyone. I have ridden (and crashed) in jeans and hoodie before and I still do it because its MY CHOICE. BTW just ridden home from work in jeans, trainers, hoody, MX gloves, & my lid at high speed on one of the busiest dual carriageways in the country.... Still breathing and intact

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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #44 on: 31 July 2014, 06:32:57 pm »

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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #45 on: 31 July 2014, 07:54:43 pm »
Blimey, is it that time of the month for you?

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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #46 on: 31 July 2014, 08:33:56 pm »
Blimey, is it that time of the month for you?


Nah, just sick of seeing this same topic on every single forum. Sick of the safety Nazis (on the net and everywhere I seem to go) telling me that I am not wearing proper kit. Even the Rozzers the other day had a pop when I was filling up with fuel. I guess its just that time of year

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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #47 on: 31 July 2014, 09:09:29 pm »
If it genuinly fucks other people off, it's their problem, not yours. I'm riding more and more like I did in the seventies, and dressing like I did then too. I just enjoy that whole vintage vibe, hence the bikes I use the most now are 32 and 37 years old. Comfy and relaxed  is safe as far as it goes for me and the way I ride nowadays

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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #48 on: 31 July 2014, 09:29:28 pm »
A guys lets design something safe for summer roads, ;)

Something with  airbags, safety cage four wheels, so you don't have to prop it up when it's not in motion.
How about fitting traction control, automatic braking sensor, proximity sensor.

Anybody who risks their lives in anything less must be mad and have no consideration for their family friends and the poor sod that smidsy's them.



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Re: OK, what the hell do people wear in temperatures like this?
« Reply #49 on: 31 July 2014, 10:51:20 pm »
Yup every foccing year out come the safety police telling us what to wear.

Makes you wanna go out for a ride wearing just a jock strap and a hat  :eek :eek :eek

Well just a thought - umm you know.

As far as I concerned it's pretty fucking dumb overheating and dehydrating trying to ride yer bike dressed in full heavy duty bike gear.

Anyway I'm back in my leathers, heat wave is over up here, shorts are packed away again.