meta 357 alarm problems

[tex1507]

Hi all

I have a 2002 FZS600 which already had a Meta 357 alarm fitted, gone to start the bike today and it refused to turn over I did not even get the ticking at soon as the ignition was turned on.

When I checked the fuses I found the head light fuse had blown, so replaced this then tried again this time I had a load of smoke pour out of the back, once stripped down found that the smoke was from the alarm.

I have tried stripping the wires back but who ever fitted the alarm has done a really good job and cannot trace the source without stripping the rest of the bike.

does anyone know if there is a second unit I need to disconnect for this alarm which would mean I could leave the alarm wiring in place or is it a case that the whole lot has to be stripped out?

Cheers

Stu

[Ruby Racing]

I'm no expert, but I had a Meta on my ZRX and it started to get very difficult to start the bike. I junked the Meta and all has been well since. So I'd suggest it needs to be removed, don't think there is any other way. They're a complete PITA anyway. I hate vehicle alarms.

[unfazed]

Which model of Meta is it?

[tex1507]

Which model of Meta is it?

All I could saw was Meta 357

[steeeve66]

I had the same alarm on my Fazer when I got it - and also had difficulties. When it went wrong on a trip through Spain (the hazard warning lights came on and everything else went dead) I had it removed - didn't cost much.

[unfazed]

Remove the plug/socket at the end of the Alarm unit,
Does it have 18 pin socket only or 18 pin Socket and a 2 pin socket at one side?
Let me know which and I will pm you the bypass for it.

[Arfa]

Otherwise, it's pretty straight forward to swap the main control unit under the seat. Did this with mine, as after around 10 years the internal battery dies and it starts to play up. Didn't get quite such an extreme symptoms as you though. Does assume all the other wiring is in good nick though... With you're blown fuse and smoking control unit, I'd be wary of some wires having degraded and now shorting.

[risticuss]

I stripped mine out myself with the bypass method following a video of someone removing one from an FZS1000, didn't take long. Where abouts are you based, there might be someone local who could help.


Simon

[cable tie]

I've removed quite a few of theses meta's and I've seen some with very dodgy connections if it was me I'd follow the alarm loom to where it connects with the bike loom and remake all the original connections, not sure how they make cat 1 security within 5 mins had a bike fully running.

[unfazed]

I've removed quite a few of theses meta's and I've seen some with very dodgy connections if it was me I'd follow the alarm loom to where it connects with the bike loom and remake all the original connections, not sure how they make cat 1 security within 5 mins had a bike fully running.

http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?action=post;topic=12315.0;last_msg=137494
 Dodgy connections. 
I have rewired and removed more alarms for the same reason "Dodgy Connections" and many were fitted by so called professionals. They make Cat 1 because it has: ignition and movement detection, battery backed-up siren. Immobiliser isolating a minimum of 2 circuits, passively armed. Anti-scan, anti-grab resistance of key codes. However they are only as secure as the access to where ever it is fitted and many I have worked on are fitted under the seat and do not have the seat wired properly to the alarm. Once the location of the alarm is breached then 5 minutes or less if you know what your are doing will disable them. However the Meta is the more reliable unit with Datatool a close second. I usually remove them as a last resort or if the persons is adamant about have it removed.

[tex1507]

Remove the plug/socket at the end of the Alarm unit,
Does it have 18 pin socket only or 18 pin Socket and a 2 pin socket at one side?
Let me know which and I will pm you the bypass for it.

Hi Mate, It is just the single 18 pin plug.

Had a go at removing the alarm this morning, got the whole back end stripped to expose the loom and who ever fitted the alarm has done a damn good job as the wires that I have managed to trace are not spliced into the loom but go straight to the connectors so cannot just cut the wires out and re-connect them 

Cheers for the advice

Stu

[tex1507]

I stripped mine out myself with the bypass method following a video of someone removing one from an FZS1000, didn't take long. Where abouts are you based, there might be someone local who could help.


Simon

Had a look for this video but could not find it, can you remember the link for it.

Cheers

Stu

[unfazed]

PM me your email address and I will send you the bypass associated with the 18 pin plug

[risticuss]

I had the same problem, had the back end all stripped and couldn't figure out what was bike and what was alarm, all I could definitely figure out were the indicators.  Looking at the wiring diagram in the haynes manual, I wondered if they had plugs already under the seat unit to make installation easier.  I had a metal box approx 3x2x1 inches in size that the bike and alarm wiring went into that had 2 connectors inside. Mine's an 03 model. I digress.... here's the link

Meta M357 alarm problem fixed:

Simon

[tex1507]

Hi All,

Sorry for the late reply.

I managed to get the bike sorted the following day so big thanks to all the advice given very much appreciated.

All I have to do now is sort out a new alarm / immobiliser for the bike.

Cheers

Stu