Project Fazer: The build thread

[Dead Eye]

Wait, what's wrong with the existing head? Do the valves just need grinding?

[ChristoT]

Wait, what's wrong with the existing head? Do the valves just need grinding?

As far as I'm aware. But one (if not more) of the valves is badly pitted due to the detonation

[Dead Eye]

They should clean up ok if you are prepared to do the leg work and I thought you wanted to save money by doing work yourself? Seems a little redundant in buying a second head when you have an existing one... though I guess with two heads you could knock one against a brick wall to try and get some more sense in to you

[unfazed]

Wait, what's wrong with the existing head? Do the valves just need grinding?

A picture would tell a thousand words

[Dead Eye]

Agreed...

My valves were pretty gruesome on my old engine after the fire and then being left outside to the elements but they cleaned up well

[red98]

Come on christo......pictures of the head please 

[ChristoT]

Come on christo......pictures of the head please 

You'll have to ask Deefer, the engine's over at his for the time being. Not before the bugger spilt oil all over the back of my car...

[Mark YPVS]

Hi ChristoT,

Good luck with this, ive just done a similar thing with an R1 I picked up for £500, the only cost I got wrong was the price of missing nuts n bolts , cost me about £100, so don't lose anything and keep an eye on ebay as breakers sometimes sell all the hardware from the bikes they have broken quite cheap and most Yamaha stuff is similar.
You can get a good paint finish with rattle cans if you take your time and do the prep work
Mark

[ChristoT]

Hi ChristoT,

Good luck with this, ive just done a similar thing with an R1 I picked up for £500, the only cost I got wrong was the price of missing nuts n bolts , cost me about £100, so don't lose anything and keep an eye on ebay as breakers sometimes sell all the hardware from the bikes they have broken quite cheap and most Yamaha stuff is similar.
You can get a good paint finish with rattle cans if you take your time and do the prep work
Mark

After that much time and effort, I'll shell out for a pro job. At the end of the project, of course! 

[ChristoT]

Just checked insurance. Well, tried to, two comparison sites were unable to quote!

This will be a looooong project.

[midden]

Hi ChristoT,

Good luck with this, ive just done a similar thing with an R1 I picked up for £500, the only cost I got wrong was the price of missing nuts n bolts , cost me about £100, so don't lose anything and keep an eye on ebay as breakers sometimes sell all the hardware from the bikes they have broken quite cheap and most Yamaha stuff is similar.
You can get a good paint finish with rattle cans if you take your time and do the prep work
Mark

Having a professional paint job for all those donor signatures and logo's is gonna put you in mortgage territory.

After that much time and effort, I'll shell out for a pro job. At the end of the project, of course! 

[ChristoT]

I plan a simple base paintjob, then the logos etc will probably be vinyl. Possibly a coat of laquer over the top to protect them.

[snapper]

I can see this thread ending up longer than the rebuild ! 

[Lez72]

Hi ChristoT,

Good luck with this, ive just done a similar thing with an R1 I picked up for £500, the only cost I got wrong was the price of missing nuts n bolts , cost me about £100, so don't lose anything and keep an eye on ebay as breakers sometimes sell all the hardware from the bikes they have broken quite cheap and most Yamaha stuff is similar.
You can get a good paint finish with rattle cans if you take your time and do the prep work
Mark

I love seeing peoples rebuilds.

 

[Mark YPVS]

Hi ChristoT,

Good luck with this, ive just done a similar thing with an R1 I picked up for £500, the only cost I got wrong was the price of missing nuts n bolts , cost me about £100, so don't lose anything and keep an eye on ebay as breakers sometimes sell all the hardware from the bikes they have broken quite cheap and most Yamaha stuff is similar.
You can get a good paint finish with rattle cans if you take your time and do the prep work
Mark

I love seeing peoples rebuilds.

 

Don't want to hijack this thread so I will post a link to my photobucket 
http://s699.photobucket.com/user/fatyzfr1/library/Triggers%20Broom?sort=4&page=1

Mark

[Lez72]

Hi ChristoT,

Good luck with this, ive just done a similar thing with an R1 I picked up for £500, the only cost I got wrong was the price of missing nuts n bolts , cost me about £100, so don't lose anything and keep an eye on ebay as breakers sometimes sell all the hardware from the bikes they have broken quite cheap and most Yamaha stuff is similar.
You can get a good paint finish with rattle cans if you take your time and do the prep work
Mark

I love seeing peoples rebuilds.

 

Don't want to hijack this thread so I will post a link to my photobucket 
http://s699.photobucket.com/user/fatyzfr1/library/Triggers%20Broom?sort=4&page=1

Mark

You have obviously put a lot of time and effort into that R1. Top work fella 

[bigsteve]

Hi Christo 
  have you checked out carol nash six wheel insurance car/bike one policy ??? 
 
 
 

Just checked insurance. Well, tried to, two comparison sites were unable to quote!

This will be a looooong project.

[ChristoT]

Hi Christo 
  have you checked out carol nash six wheel insurance car/bike one policy ??? 
 
 
 

Just checked insurance. Well, tried to, two comparison sites were unable to quote!

This will be a looooong project.

Interesting! I'll have to look into that! Thanks! 

The problem I'm having is that the insurers throw a wobbly when I declare all the mods!!

[Fazerider]

Someone should've warned you that might happen.


I'm still interested to know if that Honda swingarm is going to suit it. Is the centreline of the tyre central with the pivot ends? (I don't even know that the Fazer tyre is central for that matter.)

[ChristoT]

Someone should've warned you that might happen.


I'm still interested to know if that Honda swingarm is going to suit it. Is the centreline of the tyre central with the pivot ends? (I don't even know that the Fazer tyre is central for that matter.)

There must be a way to insure it somehow! There's enough custom bikes out there!

I have a stock swingarm, I have a Honda swingarm: only one way to find out!! 

[midden]

Come on christo......pictures of the head please 

Please oh please be careful of requests which can be lost in translation 

[ChristoT]

Come on christo......pictures of the head please 

Please oh please be careful of requests which can be lost in translation 

 

Doubly funny, as I was just re-reading Miss Handbag/PMSimon's anti profanity/anti homophobia hissy fit. Lovely double meaning there, Midden!! 

[Dead Eye]

Someone should've warned you that might happen.


I'm still interested to know if that Honda swingarm is going to suit it. Is the centreline of the tyre central with the pivot ends? (I don't even know that the Fazer tyre is central for that matter.)

Based on Ruby's build thread, the tyres are supposed to line up centrally

[ChristoT]

Someone should've warned you that might happen.


I'm still interested to know if that Honda swingarm is going to suit it. Is the centreline of the tyre central with the pivot ends? (I don't even know that the Fazer tyre is central for that matter.)

Based on Ruby's build thread, the tyres are supposed to line up centrally

I'd be surprised if they didn't, as the bike would corner differently left or right.

[JoeRock]

Hi Christo 
  have you checked out carol nash six wheel insurance car/bike one policy ??? 
 
 
 

Just checked insurance. Well, tried to, two comparison sites were unable to quote!

This will be a looooong project.

Interesting! I'll have to look into that! Thanks! 

The problem I'm having is that the insurers throw a wobbly when I declare all the mods!!

Comparison sites will mate, you won't stand a chance on them. Only way to do it will be through phoning people up, and even then there's a very few insurance companies that will accept modified bikes like that.
Carole Nash do a streetfighter insurance where you basically say what you have, what you want it to be covered for (as in value of the bike), and they sort it - but there's minimum age requirements.
I did manage to get my Ninja insured through them and that wasn't standard by a long shot, but it wasn't structural work which is what will throw them off for you - I had a later model ZX9R swingarm on mine that bolted right in, they said as it was an OE part and could be used as replacement it was okay. Then I had a set of USD forks on mine, but I just told them it had modified suspension and brakes, and they were okay with it. That said, I am a bit older than you I think, and did have 4 years no claims. Couldn't get a similar thing done this year with them though as their underwriters had changed


Realistically, you are really, really going to struggle at your age, with an accident, and extremely highly modified bike - to the point where I suspect you may not actually be able to get it insured at all until you're older!