Author Topic: Greasy roads (Read 3935 times)

Bracechenko · « **on:** 27 November 2013, 08:27:46 pm »

Felt really greasy out there tonight, be careful folks

ChristoT · « **Reply #1 on:** 27 November 2013, 08:42:54 pm »

Quote from: Bracechenko on 27 November 2013, 08:27:46 pm

Felt really greasy out there tonight, be careful folks

I found that out half an hour ago going slowly round a roundabout!

End result - gouged fairings, the right subframe is twisted (mirrors don't fold on ZXs), and the screen is cracked. Anyone know how to go about getting the council to pay for the dammage? Especially as where my bike slipped is a known area to locals (as I find out afterwards.

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richfzs · « **Reply #2 on:** 27 November 2013, 08:49:59 pm »

Jeez Christo, fecking walking disaster area! You ok in yourself?

Council to pay for it? No chance...

Bracechenko · « **Reply #3 on:** 27 November 2013, 08:53:29 pm »

Bloody hell Christo, sorry to hear that mate!

ChristoT · « **Reply #4 on:** 27 November 2013, 08:58:56 pm »

Quote from: richfzs on 27 November 2013, 08:49:59 pm

Jeez Christo, fecking walking disaster area! You ok in yourself?

Council to pay for it? No chance...

What with one thing and another, I'm pretty shaken up! Only 3 weeks of riding since my big smash, and a bike's gone down AGAIN! Shock only though, it came out of nowhere! As my tyres aren't the best, I was steering with my knees and weight, keeping the bike as upright as possible. Halfway round a roundabout where I was doing a 300 degree turn, at only about 5mph, the bike decides it no longer wants to grip. Splat.

Apparently, other vehicles have had trouble there. My landlord said that a Peugeot 206 lost the back end at the exact same spot a few days ago. When I told him which roundabout I'd fallen down on, he knew to within about a foot where I was. That is bloody unsafe, and the council had better prepare its wallet. After all, what the fuck are taxes for, if not maintaing our infrastructure?!?

Punkstig · « **Reply #5 on:** 27 November 2013, 09:46:09 pm »

Good luck with that one!

ChristoT · « **Reply #6 on:** 27 November 2013, 10:07:24 pm »

Quote from: Punkstig on 27 November 2013, 09:46:09 pm

Good luck with that one!

No kidding...

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #7 on:** 27 November 2013, 10:09:34 pm »

Sorry to hear about this Christo, glad you're ok.
What exactly is supposed to be the problem with this particular spot on that roundabout?

chris.biker · « **Reply #8 on:** 27 November 2013, 10:23:32 pm »

Sorry to hear your news Christo, I m hoping this is the third mishap and as things happen in threes your luck will improve.I bet it a round about with lots of lorries using it, the roundabouts on my way into the industrial estate where I work get coated with it.

unfazed · « **Reply #9 on:** 27 November 2013, 10:26:31 pm »

That bike was way to powerful for you.

On a more serious note you probably have two hopes of getting anything from the council 'No Hope and Bob Hope'.
Anything hurt other than your pride?

ChristoT · « **Reply #10 on:** 27 November 2013, 10:40:11 pm »

Quote from: nick crisp on 27 November 2013, 10:09:34 pm

Sorry to hear about this Christo, glad you're ok.
What exactly is supposed to be the problem with this particular spot on that roundabout?

Very greasy / slippery, terrible surface. Weird though, it looked clean. No mud on the road, or anything!

Quote from: chris.biker on 27 November 2013, 10:23:32 pm

Sorry to hear your news Christo, I m hoping this is the third mishap and as things happen in threes your luck will improve.I bet it a round about with lots of lorries using it, the roundabouts on my way into the industrial estate where I work get coated with it.

Exactly that. The roundabout is on the West side of Chatteris, joining the A141 to the A142. But today was the first time I'd ever found it slippery there.

Bad luck in threes? That was number 3 for TODAY! A shit end to a shit day. $:\$ [EDIT: Not drop number 3, thank foc. Just shit luck no3]

Unfazed - not a scratch - my gear isn't even scuffed!! Sadly, the bike is.

Doddsie · « **Reply #11 on:** 27 November 2013, 10:52:38 pm »

If its the 1st time youve found it slippery there, what are the council supposed to do???? If you travel the route and have never had a problem, they will throw that back in your face!

chaz · « **Reply #12 on:** 27 November 2013, 11:08:28 pm »

Don't think the Council (or Highways) would admit liability so it would be a waste of time. although I had a bad crash 7 years ago, a car pulled out of a side road I swerved into the hatching area which was in very bad condition, I put in my statment that if I had avoided the car (I didn't ouch) I might have come off anyway. I went back to take some photos a few weeks later to find the whole area had been resurfaced?

Dead Eye · « **Reply #13 on:** 27 November 2013, 11:54:23 pm »

I just... uh... yeah...

Well, I went out today and luckily had no issues. A few back roads had some mud on them from the tractors doing there thing (living in the West country, you get used to it) but thankfully the thou stayed perfectly glued to the tarmac. Had what felt like a slight wobble the other day, but it wasn't anything major and I think the tyres were still a little cold...

In any case, I'm riding a lot more conservatively this time of year regardless, although I do feel like a bit of a pansy on some of the corners. But I'd rather that than a spill

dBfazer600 · « **Reply #14 on:** 28 November 2013, 12:20:17 am »

Mr T your life is eventful but good see your OK

Its that time of year where my local council up north grit which is fine for the cold mornings but it ends up as grease especially if the suns been out and has melted the ice before the grit has done its work.

Ride safe

Daz

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #15 on:** 28 November 2013, 12:22:50 am »

Quote from: Dead Eye on 27 November 2013, 11:54:23 pm

A few back roads had some mud on them from the tractors doing there thing (living in the West country, you get used to it)

Ooh-arrr!

ChristoT · « **Reply #16 on:** 28 November 2013, 12:27:56 am »

Quote from: dBfazer600 on 28 November 2013, 12:20:17 am

Mr T your life is eventful but good see your OK

Its that time of year where my local council up north grit which is fine for the cold mornings but it ends up as grease especially if the suns been out and has melted the ice before the grit has done its work.

Ride safe

Daz

Well, we've had 2 days (at least) without ice, and the route is frequented by lorries. I'm just really depressed at damaging this one so soon after my big smash up.

midden · « **Reply #17 on:** 28 November 2013, 06:15:04 am »

Trouble with going down the 'not a chance' route is you'd probably be expected to notify insurance. Can you afford that. Are you prepared to ride a piagio 50 ?

ChristoT · « **Reply #18 on:** 28 November 2013, 07:19:25 am »

Quote from: midden on 28 November 2013, 06:15:04 am

Trouble with going down the 'not a chance' route is you'd probably be expected to notify insurance. Can you afford that. Are you prepared to ride a piagio 50 ?

Why would I have to notify my insurance? I'm TPF&T, and no one else was involved.

I refuse to ride a 50. That ain't riding.

midden · « **Reply #19 on:** 28 November 2013, 07:28:42 am »

I believe they ask regardless of policy if you've had accidents or claims with in x yrs and if the council were to consider your claim I imagi.e they would direct it thru insurance. Just a thought, I'm no expert

ChristoT · « **Reply #20 on:** 28 November 2013, 07:30:16 am »

Quote from: midden on 28 November 2013, 07:28:42 am

I believe they ask regardless of policy if you've had accidents or claims with in x yrs and if the council were to consider your claim I imagi.e they would direct it thru insurance. Just a thought, I'm no expert

That's assuming I get anywhere with them...

midden · « **Reply #21 on:** 28 November 2013, 07:41:53 am »

Absolutely

..... No harm enquiring. Sounds like it needs reporting anyway

Frosties · « **Reply #22 on:** 28 November 2013, 07:48:24 am »

Quote from: ChristoT on 27 November 2013, 08:42:54 pm

Quote from: Bracechenko on 27 November 2013, 08:27:46 pm
Felt really greasy out there tonight, be careful folks

I found that out half an hour ago going slowly round a roundabout! End result - gouged fairings, the right subframe is twisted (mirrors don't fold on ZXs), and the screen is cracked. Anyone know how to go about getting the council to pay for the dammage? Especially as where my bike slipped is a known area to locals (as I find out afterwards. )

Sorry to hear about this Christo, glad you're ok fella.

NOW will you have a look at that MP3 Tricycle I mentioned before.

Punkstig · « **Reply #23 on:** 28 November 2013, 08:05:15 am »

Any payout would be considered a claim and go down on the insurance!

Dave48 · « **Reply #24 on:** 28 November 2013, 08:21:32 am »

Sorry to hear about your "mishap"-at least you are unhurt!
November temperatures, less than perfect tyres, road grit(nowadays mixed with urea which makes it more "sticky-supposedly to help rock salt stay on road surface longer-but disastrous for us motorcyclists as the slightest moisture in the air turns it greasy, poorly maintained surface, adverse camber, the possibilities are endless but motorcyclists are a minority & rate less attention than pedal cyclists in the pecking order

. Didn't notice/smell any spilt diesel by any chance?- poorly fitting lorry fuel caps coupled with fuel surge on roundabouts!