front sprocket part number question

[Val]

I guess staying with standard ratio 15/48 is probably the best compromise. Unless you do extensive highway riding then lower ratio like 17/47 may help. High extreme ratio like 13/53 is for moto gymkhana wannabes :-)

I'm happy just tootling away, I like the odd blast but nothing gp style

I may be wrong I am laymen too just too much nerd I guess LOL

But your nerdiness will help others

You said earlier about a lower rear sprocket by 1, would you also increase the front by 1 or leave that at 15?

Why not 16/47 seems good combination in fact here is nice article from a guy the has chosen exactly that combo.

According to gear commander this will give you 8% decrease in RPMs and about 10 mph more top speed.

[anutz]

my god....this stuff is complex....back to school i think....intresting however 

[sinto]

Why not 16/47 seems good combination in fact here is nice article from a guy the has chosen exactly that combo.

According to gear commander this will give you 8% decrease in RPMs and about 10 mph more top speed.

That looks just the ticket,  although I could do with increasing my top speed to 70 I'm not that bothered about that

He did say he should of went for 2+ on the front, guessing that would mean 2- on the rear. But he also says he bought two different makes of sprockets,  think I'll just look for complete set, now question is....fixed chain or rivet? Swing arm off or in situ?

[sinto]

my god....this stuff is complex....back to school i think....intresting however 

[riedrider]

now question is....fixed chain or rivet? Swing arm off or in situ?

I rivetted mine today:
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,6412.4525.html
But if the complete set of chain an sprockets is worn it would make sense to put the swingarm off and check the bearings and regrease them. For rivetting you need a good tool. I would not use the two hammer method....

[sinto]

now question is....fixed chain or rivet? Swing arm off or in situ?

I rivetted mine today:
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,6412.4525.html


Looks good riedrider

But if the complete set of chain an sprockets is worn it would make sense to put the swingarm off and check the bearings and regrease them. For rivetting you need a good tool. I would not use the two hammer method....

Nope, I wouldn't use the two hammer method, it's not a push bike after all.
Don't think my sprockets are worn, I'm thinking I'll get away with it till winter then I can strip the whole lot off and do it when bike is off the road anyway.

[darrsi]

I guess staying with standard ratio 15/48 is probably the best compromise. Unless you do extensive highway riding then lower ratio like 17/47 may help. High extreme ratio like 13/53 is for moto gymkhana wannabes :-)

I'm happy just tootling away, I like the odd blast but nothing gp style

I may be wrong I am laymen too just too much nerd I guess LOL

But your nerdiness will help others

You said earlier about a lower rear sprocket by 1, would you also increase the front by 1 or leave that at 15?

Why not 16/47 seems good combination in fact here is nice article from a guy the has chosen exactly that combo.

According to gear commander this will give you 8% decrease in RPMs and about 10 mph more top speed.

Do you not think that the Japanese tried every combination, but eventually came up with 15/48 as the best result for this bike?


I dunno what your bike is like, but mine is pretty quick off the mark when asked, and i've had 135mph with a passenger on board, with more available.


It really doesn't need tinkering with, and the speed limit is 70mph, apparently, so just ride and enjoy, it is what it is.

[sinto]

Do you not think that the Japanese tried every combination, but eventually came up with 15/48 as the best result for this bike?


Nah, as it's been said on other threads, it was slung together from other parts they had lying about, bit off this, bit off that, hence we are now all looking at different ways to 'help'

Funny enough, on other issues regarding certain things, people mention, improvements and what that certain part came from, ie divvy front fender, r6 engine/gearing, r1 brakes etc



I dunno what your bike is like, but mine is pretty quick off the mark when asked, and i've had 135mph with a passenger on board, with more available.

My bike is fast as it's red and doesn't need any more speed but it's nice to know what can be done and certainly makes for interesting reading


It really doesn't need tinkering with, and the speed limit is 70mph, apparently, so just ride and enjoy, it is what it is.

That's fair enough, as I'm sure everyone rides like an

[darrsi]

Do you not think that the Japanese tried every combination, but eventually came up with 15/48 as the best result for this bike?


Nah, as it's been said on other threads, it was slung together from other parts they had lying about, bit off this, bit off that, hence we are now all looking at different ways to 'help'

Funny enough, on other issues regarding certain things, people mention, improvements and what that certain part came from, ie divvy front fender, r6 engine/gearing, r1 brakes etc



I dunno what your bike is like, but mine is pretty quick off the mark when asked, and i've had 135mph with a passenger on board, with more available.

My bike is fast as it's red and doesn't need any more speed but it's nice to know what can be done and certainly makes for interesting reading


It really doesn't need tinkering with, and the speed limit is 70mph, apparently, so just ride and enjoy, it is what it is.

That's fair enough, as I'm sure everyone rides like an

Do you not see my point though, if you want a quicker FZS600, buy an FZS1000 and save yourself a lot of kerfuffle. 

[sinto]

Yeah I totally see your point, but hopefully you see there are people who also like to know exactly how things work and like to get dirty with the workings.
If we all just went out and bought other things just because we could, this forum probably wouldn't exist

[darrsi]

It all stems back to the days when you bought your first 50cc then tried to turn it into a Z1000 

[sinto]

It all stems back to the days when you bought your first 50cc then tried to turn it into a Z1000 

What do you mean tried? I'm sure I done that!

[Val]

Why not 16/47 seems good combination in fact here is nice article from a guy the has chosen exactly that combo.

According to gear commander this will give you 8% decrease in RPMs and about 10 mph more top speed.

That looks just the ticket,  although I could do with increasing my top speed to 70 I'm not that bothered about that

He did say he should of went for 2+ on the front, guessing that would mean 2- on the rear. But he also says he bought two different makes of sprockets,  think I'll just look for complete set, now question is....fixed chain or rivet? Swing arm off or in situ?

riedrider has very sound advice to get off the swingarm and grease the bearings which I will follow. Also removing the swingarm means you can just get the chain off without splitting it, and you do not need to use a grinder to get the heads of the pins off before you split the old chain. The old chain in my case is the original OEM with hard-head pins which will make the split a major pain and I do not have a grinder too.

About fixed or rivet, actually most good chains that I found are sold split. The question here is what type are the master rivet connector pins.

There are two types: soft-head pins which are hollow and much more easier to rivet and the good rivet tools for that are about £30 like JT Pro Chain Tool Kit, and hard-head pins need expensive Whale tool.

For example I am looking for Tsubaki chains because the price matches the cheapest low strength chains and the quality and strength matches expensive ones like D.I.D.

I found Tsubaki chain installation videos very helpful.

Tsubaki Alpha XRG X-ring 530 110 is £83 soft-head pin connector rivet link hollow:

http://www.bandcexpress.co.uk/buy/Tsubaki-Tsubaki-Alpha-X-Ring-Gold-Drive-Chain---530---110-links/530APX-110.953#eq1

Tsubaki Omega O-ring 530 110 is £61 hard-head pin connector master rivet link needs whale tool!

Hence I decided to go for Alpha XRG because I am lazy and want to do the things easier 

[sinto]

Geez Val, that's confused me even more now