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General => General => Topic started by: chris.biker on 22 October 2012, 08:24:38 pm

Title: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: chris.biker on 22 October 2012, 08:24:38 pm
Looking in E bay and came across this


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/full-length-hydraulic-motor-cycle-lift-work-ramp-harley-yamaha-suzuki-honda-/121003151499?pt=UK_Lifting_Moving_Equipment&hash=item1c2c59908b (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/full-length-hydraulic-motor-cycle-lift-work-ramp-harley-yamaha-suzuki-honda-/121003151499?pt=UK_Lifting_Moving_Equipment&hash=item1c2c59908b)


Now is it only me, but the line about he wants back what he paid for it, I m thinking it looks as if its been kept outside and left to go rusty and he thinks the next buyer should pay him what he paid for it.
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: Phil TK on 22 October 2012, 08:42:39 pm

Now is it only me, but the line about he wants back what he paid for it, I m thinking it looks as if its been kept outside and left to go rusty and he thinks the next buyer should pay him what he paid for it.

 He's missing the point of an auction, where the idea is you sell for the amount of money peeps are willing to pay rather than it's 'perceived' value.
  Avoid. The guys obviously an irksome clot.
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: Lazarus on 22 October 2012, 08:49:01 pm
a bit dearer, but I know someone who bought 3 ramps from this guy (rented a van and picked them all up together.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250894948231?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649&clk_rvr_id=401425833100 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250894948231?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649&clk_rvr_id=401425833100)

sings their praises.
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: Streetbudgie on 22 October 2012, 11:13:00 pm
How is that a hydraulic bike lift? It is a lift operated by a hand pumped hydraulic car jack, leave this to rot in the bloke's garden where it has obviously been for the last 20 years and buy the real thing, much safer.
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: chris.biker on 22 October 2012, 11:43:03 pm
I believe the use of the car jack in these lifts is a genius design. The story I heard was that a group of designers set about producing a hydraulic motorcycle lifting bench, all was going well with the price until the hydraulics were  added at which point the price got silly. It was then stated how come the hydraulic are so expensive when you can by a hydraulic car jack for £15. At that off the wall moment the hydraulic system was done with a compact self contained £15 unit. I feel they are fit for purpose.
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: DryRob on 23 October 2012, 10:17:34 am
I like the idea of having one of these but would prefer the scissor type like this,

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sealey-MC365-Hydraulic-Motorcycle-Motorbike-Lift-Ramp-Bench-365Kg-Capacity-New-/200701099600?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2ebab7be50 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sealey-MC365-Hydraulic-Motorcycle-Motorbike-Lift-Ramp-Bench-365Kg-Capacity-New-/200701099600?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2ebab7be50)

haven't got the room or the money at the moment though
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: karlo on 23 October 2012, 11:23:53 am
Looking at prices new for something similar I wouldn't think it's a bad price  http://www.kdbenches.co.uk/products/category/id/27 (http://www.kdbenches.co.uk/products/category/id/27)
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: locksmith on 23 October 2012, 11:55:53 am
But thats a starting price and he may well have a higher reserve on it, probably has judging by the tone of the advert!
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: JZS 600 on 23 October 2012, 12:18:47 pm
I think we should all "watch" it on E bay to be evil!
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: chaz on 23 October 2012, 01:04:29 pm
looks home made to me? anyway I'm  put it on my WATCH list we could all start asking stupid questions?
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: Phil TK on 23 October 2012, 01:09:47 pm
looks home made to me? anyway I'm  put it on my WATCH list we could all start asking stupid questions?

Ask him what colour it is, that always annoys.  :evil
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: pitternator on 23 October 2012, 01:24:50 pm
defo looks home made, I know a skilled metalworker who made his own up too, its not that difficult if u have access to the equipment.I also have seen them I think in machine mart for around £300.
I would love one for sure. :)
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: Robbie8666 on 23 October 2012, 01:49:33 pm
looks home made to me? anyway I'm  put it on my WATCH list we could all start asking stupid questions?

Ask him what colour it is, that always annoys.  :evil

ask him what colour bike is it for?  :rollin
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: JZS 600 on 23 October 2012, 03:48:38 pm
Can you use it for painting the ceiling as well.
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: DryRob on 23 October 2012, 05:32:27 pm
"could I use this for inspecting the undercarriage of a horse?"
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: chaz on 23 October 2012, 06:50:51 pm
asked him if its suitable for a trike?             your  turn??????????????
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: locksmith on 23 October 2012, 08:24:39 pm
Does the bike wheel come with it?
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: limax2 on 23 October 2012, 08:44:17 pm
Does the bike wheel come with it?

I believe the rest of the bike fell off when he took the wheel spindle out  :eek .
 
But thats a starting price and he may well have a higher reserve on it, probably has judging by the tone of the advert!
No reserve price, so highest bid gets it.
 
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: richfzs on 23 October 2012, 08:52:39 pm
unless fleabay has changed, you don't get to see of there's a reserve price until somebody bids on it??
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: richfzs on 23 October 2012, 08:57:07 pm
But, I don't think I could ever get desperate enough to trust my bikes to that rust ridden piece of crap!
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: chaz on 24 October 2012, 12:02:48 am
got a reply he says it not suitable for a trike?  wonder why?
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: Streetbudgie on 24 October 2012, 12:37:33 pm
I think that you can't use this contraption for anything.
 
The reason is that every car jack I've ever used and own all have a lable stating that they are for lifting the vehicle to a safe height to insert permenant jacks only and the vehicle should not be worked on whilst supported only by the trolley jack.
 
Unless this lift has some way of fixing it in position after it is raised by the trolley jack I wouldn't want to use it.
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: chris.biker on 24 October 2012, 11:47:33 pm
I think that you can't use this contraption for anything.
 
The reason is that every car jack I've ever used and own all have a lable stating that they are for lifting the vehicle to a safe height to insert permenant jacks only and the vehicle should not be worked on whilst supported only by the trolley jack.
 
Unless this lift has some way of fixing it in position after it is raised by the trolley jack I wouldn't want to use it.


I agree with you, I had not looked closely enough to notice that this bench did not have a locking mechanism to lock in place once it is at the required height.
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: ddtwelve on 26 October 2012, 03:58:59 pm
cant beleive it its 7 years old :eek  and he got it secondhand  :b
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: Pat on 26 October 2012, 04:54:33 pm
I think that you can't use this contraption for anything.
 
The reason is that every car jack I've ever used and own all have a lable stating that they are for lifting the vehicle to a safe height to insert permenant jacks only and the vehicle should not be worked on whilst supported only by the trolley jack.
 
Unless this lift has some way of fixing it in position after it is raised by the trolley jack I wouldn't want to use it.


I agree with you, I had not looked closely enough to notice that this bench did not have a locking mechanism to lock in place once it is at the required height.


If you look at the photos then you'll see it does have a locking mechanism.

Don't understand why people are getting so childish about this,  if you're not interested then just laugh/tut at it & move on, why bother plaguing the guy with silly questions?  Are your lives really so sad & empty?

OK, it looks a bit rusty, but from the pics that's just superficial, underneath it seems solid enough, it's a high starting price but I doubt you'll get a hydraulic bench any cheaper, think my Machine Mart one cost me ~ £300 about 10 years back.
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: chris.biker on 26 October 2012, 07:14:29 pm
Well Pat I am glad to see that despite our petty chat, we have not been nasty enough to plague the seller with an trouble. My thoughts were drawn by the chaps expectation that having had this equipment for seven year he feel he should get his money back on it Ebays customers will prove who is right on that expectation.
I am glad to have helped fellow FOC ers to pass their time in idle chat.
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: JZS 600 on 27 October 2012, 11:07:51 am
Ebay Parody Song - Weird Al Yankovic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKtlK7sn0JQ#)


Sums it up really
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: chris.biker on 28 October 2012, 10:51:10 pm
It appears his expectations were fair and he has sold his lifting bench. I hope that the buyers  motorbike maintenance is more comfortable now. Was it anyone off of here who bought it. I know that the exposure given to his sale is coveted by many as the for sale sections proves with new member appearing  just to sell things.
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: chaz on 28 October 2012, 11:22:41 pm
think I might start making these, would have to price up the materials, my mate got the plans, I thought about making one that's set into the floor so its not in the way when not in use?
Title: Re: Is his expectation fair.
Post by: chris.biker on 29 October 2012, 10:04:07 pm
It has been on my list of to does which is why I was looking at them on Ebay, getting ideas. I think most of the work is in the bearing housings and the pivot axles.