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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: celticdog on 25 March 2017, 08:58:02 pm
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You can pick up some 10w40 semi synth oil (the stuff that our fazers like) mega cheap at the 'Home Bargains' discount chain.
it's £2 a litre. Yes! £2 a litre! :thumbup
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- 4 years ago I had this discussion on here and decided to be the Guinea pig to try it out.
- 4 years and several oil changes later, i can confirm it is absolutely fine, and a good price too.
[added to the op as I figured it would be usefull info - biker]
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Hmmm, not for me thanks.
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Delfin are huge multi national petro chem conglomerate Pretty sure the oil will be fine.
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Hmmm, not for me thanks.
Darrsi- didn't you once buy some mega cheap oil off fleabay?
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Hmmm, not for me thanks.
Darrsi- didn't you once buy some mega cheap oil off fleabay?
It was cheaper than the big brands, by a British firm called Westway Lubricants. Thought i'd try the fully synthetic stuff for a change and i will probably only buy that from now on.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10W-40-Motorcycle-Oil-4-Stroke-JASO-MA2-10W40-5L-Westway-Lubricants-/111704165494?hash=item1a02164c76:g:3q4AAOSwoydWj6xf (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10W-40-Motorcycle-Oil-4-Stroke-JASO-MA2-10W40-5L-Westway-Lubricants-/111704165494?hash=item1a02164c76:g:3q4AAOSwoydWj6xf)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10W-40-Synthetic-Motorcycle-Oil-4-Stroke-JASO-MA2-10W40-5L-Westway-Lubricants-/111838861309?hash=item1a0a1d97fd:g:anIAAOSwHQ9WXgZf (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10W-40-Synthetic-Motorcycle-Oil-4-Stroke-JASO-MA2-10W40-5L-Westway-Lubricants-/111838861309?hash=item1a0a1d97fd:g:anIAAOSwHQ9WXgZf)
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Delfin are huge multi national petro chem conglomerate Pretty sure the oil will be fine.
Well spotted Joey :thumbup
Hmmm, not for me thanks.
Darrsi- didn't you once buy some mega cheap oil off fleabay?
It was cheaper than the big brands, by a British firm called Westway Lubricants. Thought i'd try the fully synthetic stuff for a change and i will probably only buy that from now on.
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10W-40-Motorcycle-Oil-4-Stroke-JASO-MA2-10W40-5L-Westway-Lubricants-/111704165494?hash=item1a02164c76:g:3q4AAOSwoydWj6xf[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10W-40-Motorcycle-Oil-4-Stroke-JASO-MA2-10W40-5L-Westway-Lubricants-/111704165494?hash=item1a02164c76:g:3q4AAOSwoydWj6xf[/url])
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10W-40-Synthetic-Motorcycle-Oil-4-Stroke-JASO-MA2-10W40-5L-Westway-Lubricants-/111838861309?hash=item1a0a1d97fd:g:anIAAOSwHQ9WXgZf[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10W-40-Synthetic-Motorcycle-Oil-4-Stroke-JASO-MA2-10W40-5L-Westway-Lubricants-/111838861309?hash=item1a0a1d97fd:g:anIAAOSwHQ9WXgZf[/url])
Having looked at the Label of my bargain basement oil it seems it is in fact a product of the EU. Unfortunately I can't change the name of the thread to reflect this.
Nice of you to flag the british flag for North Sea oil darrsi, but a bargain is a bargain!
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Will this oil remove the "clonk" sound from the gearbox?
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Will this oil remove the "clonk" sound from the gearbox?
No, you need earplugs for that :)
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Will this oil remove the "clonk" sound from the gearbox?
Adjusting the clutch cable properly at both ends can help with that, but, even more so, just roll the bike forwards a few inches as you put it into first gear and it won't "clonk" anywhere near as bad.
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Delfin are huge multi national petro chem conglomerate Pretty sure the oil will be fine.
Well spotted Joey :thumbup
Hmmm, not for me thanks.
Darrsi- didn't you once buy some mega cheap oil off fleabay?
It was cheaper than the big brands, by a British firm called Westway Lubricants. Thought i'd try the fully synthetic stuff for a change and i will probably only buy that from now on.
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10W-40-Motorcycle-Oil-4-Stroke-JASO-MA2-10W40-5L-Westway-Lubricants-/111704165494?hash=item1a02164c76:g:3q4AAOSwoydWj6xf[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10W-40-Motorcycle-Oil-4-Stroke-JASO-MA2-10W40-5L-Westway-Lubricants-/111704165494?hash=item1a02164c76:g:3q4AAOSwoydWj6xf[/url])
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10W-40-Synthetic-Motorcycle-Oil-4-Stroke-JASO-MA2-10W40-5L-Westway-Lubricants-/111838861309?hash=item1a0a1d97fd:g:anIAAOSwHQ9WXgZf[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10W-40-Synthetic-Motorcycle-Oil-4-Stroke-JASO-MA2-10W40-5L-Westway-Lubricants-/111838861309?hash=item1a0a1d97fd:g:anIAAOSwHQ9WXgZf[/url])
Having looked at the Label of my bargain basement oil it seems it is in fact a product of the EU. Unfortunately I can't change the name of the thread to reflect this.
Nice of you to flag the british flag for North Sea oil darrsi, but a bargain is a bargain!
Presumably they have to sell it very cheap because of the "Sell By" date on the container. I can't imagine it being a "Use By" date with sealed oil.
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Will this oil remove the "clonk" sound from the gearbox?
The FZS600 is very picky when it comes to chain tension. do it exactly as per the handbook (35mm IIRC) and the clonk all but disappears.
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I love my Fazer, but the gearbox is CRAP!
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Went to my local 'Home Bargains' today. No sign of it :(
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was searching for reviews on this and found a interesting read on the JASO code
http://www.penriteoil.com.au/tech_pdfs/206%20JASO%20MA-MA1-MB%20Specification%20differences%20MARCH%202014.pdf (http://www.penriteoil.com.au/tech_pdfs/206%20JASO%20MA-MA1-MB%20Specification%20differences%20MARCH%202014.pdf)
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I tried looking on their website… the search tool is a joke.
“Motorcycle” yielded no hits, as did “motor”.
“Oil” brought up a couple of dozen items ranging from perfume and cat food to sunscreen and a loo seat. :lol
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Hmmm, not for me thanks.
Darrsi- didn't you once buy some mega cheap oil off fleabay?
+1 on the great find
I've just ordered 5 ltr of 10 40 semi syn car oil for £10.99 for what will become chain lube after flushing out swarf from the ZZR's sump (sump plug need tapping) And was considering getting similar to fill it with after although after seeing your link I think I'll go with that.
Found this article thats worth a read re using car oils in motorcycle engines.
[url]http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/oiltest1.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/oiltest1.htm[/url])
It was cheaper than the big brands, by a British firm called Westway Lubricants. Thought i'd try the fully synthetic stuff for a change and i will probably only buy that from now on.
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10W-40-Motorcycle-Oil-4-Stroke-JASO-MA2-10W40-5L-Westway-Lubricants-/111704165494?hash=item1a02164c76:g:3q4AAOSwoydWj6xf[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10W-40-Motorcycle-Oil-4-Stroke-JASO-MA2-10W40-5L-Westway-Lubricants-/111704165494?hash=item1a02164c76:g:3q4AAOSwoydWj6xf[/url])
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10W-40-Synthetic-Motorcycle-Oil-4-Stroke-JASO-MA2-10W40-5L-Westway-Lubricants-/111838861309?hash=item1a0a1d97fd:g:anIAAOSwHQ9WXgZf[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10W-40-Synthetic-Motorcycle-Oil-4-Stroke-JASO-MA2-10W40-5L-Westway-Lubricants-/111838861309?hash=item1a0a1d97fd:g:anIAAOSwHQ9WXgZf[/url])
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I tried looking on their website… the search tool is a joke.
“Motorcycle” yielded no hits, as did “motor”.
“Oil” brought up a couple of dozen items ranging from perfume and cat food to sunscreen and a loo seat. :lol
Same here. Someone told my wife you could order stuff online and collect in your local store. None of the local places have that oil and I can't find it on line at Home Bargains either.
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I tried looking on their website… the search tool is a joke.
“Motorcycle” yielded no hits, as did “motor”.
“Oil” brought up a couple of dozen items ranging from perfume and cat food to sunscreen and a loo seat. :lol
Same here. Someone told my wife you could order stuff online and collect in your local store. None of the local places have that oil and I can't find it on line at Home Bargains either.
I spotted it instore when I was out shopping with the missus & kids, must be a job lot and not a regular stocked item. Might be worth a walk in :) The actual shop is the company in pic, not to be confused with B&M which is similar.
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Same here. Someone told my wife you could order stuff online and collect in your local store. None of the local places have that oil and I can't find it on line at Home Bargains either.
I spotted it instore when I was out shopping with the missus & kids, must be a job lot and not a regular stocked item. Might be worth a walk in :) The actual shop is the company in pic, not to be confused with B&M which is similar.
"None of the local places have that oil" there's a Home Bargains right next door to where my wife works - no luck, nor in Gloucester.
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Same here. Someone told my wife you could order stuff online and collect in your local store. None of the local places have that oil and I can't find it on line at Home Bargains either.
I spotted it instore when I was out shopping with the missus & kids, must be a job lot and not a regular stocked item. Might be worth a walk in :) The actual shop is the company in pic, not to be confused with B&M which is similar.
"None of the local places have that oil" there's a Home Bargains right next door to where my wife works - no luck, nor in Gloucester.
http://www.luxe-oil.com/catalog/item/833 (http://www.luxe-oil.com/catalog/item/833)
Hi I only bought it on Saturday afternoon, there was probably another half dozen bottles on the shelf. It might be worth emailing them to see if they have it in stock or can get it for you.
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I thought at first it was bike specific oil, but it's not is it?
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I thought at first it was bike specific oil, but it's not is it?
Hi darrsi here's the blurb in English from the website-
Semi-synthetic motor oil is applied in four-stroke engines of motorcycles, off-roaders, scooters, garden tractors,snow-ploughs and other garden equipment, both with air and fluid cooling. Ensures excellent protection from formation of deposits on pistons, gumming of rings,reduction of energy consumption. Contains anti-scoring additives, preventing the engine parts from wear unde rthe extreme loads and high temperatures.SAE 10W-40API SJ / JASO-MA-2DENSITY AT 20°С, maximum 0,900 g/cm3KINEMATIC VISCOSITY AT 100°С 12,5-16,3 mm2/sALKALI NUMBER, minimum 6,0 mg KOH/gCHILLING TEMPERATURE, maximum – 30°СSULFATE ASH CONTENT, maximum 1,3%PACKAGING 1 L
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Is it any easier in Russian? :lol
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In Russian it says:
Motorcycle oil suitable for wet clutches and catalytic converters. No problem using it in a Fazer.
But in the original Russian half the letters are back to front
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I've been in touch woth the company who say they have no official dealers in the UK
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I've been in touch woth the company who say they have no official dealers in the UK
So it's not worth me replying to this Russian fellow then?
HA: Письмо с сайта www.luxe-oil.com (http://www.luxe-oil.com), раздел "Dealers"
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Ренат Галямов <R.Galamovs@delfinrus.com>
07:06 (2 hours ago)
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Good day daer mr. Will
How are you?
You wrote to our web site. Do you have some quastions?!
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The Russians would say that.......
Careful it isn't tapping your phone
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I've been in touch woth the company who say they have no official dealers in the UK
So it's not worth me replying to this Russian fellow then?
HA: Письмо с сайта [url=http://www.luxe-oil.com]www.luxe-oil.com[/url] ([url]http://www.luxe-oil.com[/url]), раздел "Dealers"
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Ренат Галямов <R.Galamovs@delfinrus.com>
That's the one.
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I've been in touch woth the company who say they have no official dealers in the UK
So it's not worth me replying to this Russian fellow then?
HA: Письмо с сайта [url=http://www.luxe-oil.com]www.luxe-oil.com[/url] ([url]http://www.luxe-oil.com[/url]), раздел "Dealers"
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Ренат Галямов <R.Galamovs@delfinrus.com>
07:06 (2 hours ago)
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Good day daer mr. Will
How are you?
You wrote to our web site. Do you have some quastions?!
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Имя:
Will
e-mail:
Регион:
UK
Город:
Sheffield
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After reading that, i can only picture the policeman from Allo Allo :lol
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Hi all.....
This is Westway Lubricants here based in Wombourne UK.
Just want to leave this little statement here....
We NEVER have or NEVER will sell oils that have been formulated using recycled oils.I'ts a false economy....the process of trying to regenerate used oil into new oil costs more than simply using virgin base oils.
You can tell our oils are new by the light colour they are when pouring them, they also do not smell like a used engine oil.
No matter how much you process a used oil it will always be dark, it can't be "filtered" out as this darkness is attributed to the oxidation caused by the combustion process.We are a real British company using only Virgin base oils and additives sourced here in the UK.
The reason why our products are priced so competitively is because we have much lower operating costs to the big brands. We have no sales reps on the roads, we don't sponsor race teams, we don't spend huge amounts on advertising and marketing, we don't have a chain of distributors all adding their own markup, we simply sell good quality oil at the best prices we can direct to the customer/end user. We are registered here in the UK and pay UK VAT & Tax....Simples!!
There you go... just thought i'd put this out there as there are a lot of people asking the question.
Thanks guys and if you have purchased from us I thank you very much for your support.(Moderators please feel free to reach out to us if this post requires editing or goes against your rules, this is not a post to push our wares, it's simply to dispel some inaccurate information here on your site)
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Hi all.....
This is Westway Lubricants here based in Wombourne UK.
Just want to leave this little statement here....
We NEVER have or NEVER will sell oils that have been formulated using recycled oils.I'ts a false economy....the process of trying to regenerate used oil into new oil costs more than simply using virgin base oils.
You can tell our oils are new by the light colour they are when pouring them, they also do not smell like a used engine oil.
No matter how much you process a used oil it will always be dark, it can't be "filtered" out as this darkness is attributed to the oxidation caused by the combustion process.We are a real British company using only Virgin base oils and additives sourced here in the UK.
The reason why our products are priced so competitively is because we have much lower operating costs to the big brands. We have no sales reps on the roads, we don't sponsor race teams, we don't spend huge amounts on advertising and marketing, we don't have a chain of distributors all adding their own markup, we simply sell good quality oil at the best prices we can direct to the customer/end user. We are registered here in the UK and pay UK VAT & Tax....Simples!!
There you go... just thought i'd put this out there as there are a lot of people asking the question.
Thanks guys and if you have purchased from us I thank you very much for your support.(Moderators please feel free to reach out to us if this post requires editing or goes against your rules, this is not a post to push our wares, it's simply to dispel some inaccurate information here on your site)
Thank you for your info, much appreciated.
I decided to give your oil a go back in early 2016 and have bought it ever since, i won't use anything else in my bike now. :thumbup
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I used westway fork oil for my last 2 fork rebuilds/messing with springs/levels..good stuff,will be ordering engine oil from them once weather turns nice.. :) :rolleyes
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why do i have a feeling someone at westway oils has a cushy marketing job where they just scour the internet finding if its mentioned anywhere and post that.
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Found the same post from Westway on a Triumph forum.
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Found the same post from Westway on a Triumph forum.
Yep sales pitch :rolleyes
Its cheap oil, yes it works, but the last time I looked it's at the lower end of all the specs for the grades, so it will just get through that's why it's cheap. They're not doing you a favour, they're trying to max their profit, by their lower overheads. Now if they offered exactly the same high end spec oils as the like's of Mobile, Fucus, Castrol etc and I mean like for like then yes, but they don't.
I'm not saying don't use it, just be aware of what your buying.
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Having looked at the Label of my bargain basement oil it seems it is in fact a product of the EU. Unfortunately I can't change the name of the thread to reflect this. Nice of you to flag the british flag for North Sea oil darrsi, but a bargain is a bargain!
What woudl you like the title to be? for now Ive just changed Russian to EU.
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Hi all ! Whats the brand that is thread refers to ? I have been using mannol oil in both my car & bike for a few years now. Its golden & slippery & at great price both vehicles run great onit, says made in EU on the can.
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Sorry my bad ! I've just looked at the very start of the thread & seen the pics of the brand.
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why do i have a feeling someone at westway oils has a cushy marketing job where they just scour the internet finding if its mentioned anywhere and post that.
So what?
4 years ago I had this discussion on here and decided to be the Guinea pig to try it out.
4 years and several oil changes later, i can confirm it is absolutely fine, and a good price too.
That's what everyone wanted to hear isn't it?
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@darrsi, added your into to the OP.
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why do i have a feeling someone at westway oils has a cushy marketing job where they just scour the internet finding if its mentioned anywhere and post that.
So what?
4 years ago I had this discussion on here and decided to be the Guinea pig to try it out.
4 years and several oil changes later, i can confirm it is absolutely fine, and a good price too.
That's what everyone wanted to hear isn't it?
im just saying what a job it must be to have that job
i would rather trust the opinion of the many (including the classic motorcycle racing club) who have endorsed this oil.
it just seems a bit of a great job running all over the net reading forums
i heard of this company from years ago within the classic racers circle and have no problem with them at all
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why do i have a feeling someone at westway oils has a cushy marketing job where they just scour the internet finding if its mentioned anywhere and post that.
So what?
4 years ago I had this discussion on here and decided to be the Guinea pig to try it out.
4 years and several oil changes later, i can confirm it is absolutely fine, and a good price too.
That's what everyone wanted to hear isn't it?
im just saying what a job it must be to have that job
i would rather trust the opinion of the many (including the classic motorcycle racing club) who have endorsed this oil.
it just seems a bit of a great job running all over the net reading forums
i heard of this company from years ago within the classic racers circle and have no problem with them at all
All he did was be informative and as he said answer a few questions. :lol