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my pooter has just give a pop up asking if I want to upgrade to windows 10, I've had a quick search on here but the answers were prior to or just as 10came out. I'd imagine any bugs have been ironed out by now so is anyone on here using 10 and can they recommend it or not?
cheers
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I actually really like it.
I'd say it's similar to 70% Windows 7, and 30% Windows 8 (which I didn't like at all)
Once you've done a bit of jiggery pokery and customised things to your own liking it's not too different from Windows 7 to use, with a few improvements of Windows 8 chucked in.
Definitely worth getting while it's free, 'cos you'll only end up getting it in time anyway.
I don't touch the new Edge browser though, as it doesn't allow Whatsapp Web or Adblock, and I can't be doing without them, so I still use Google Chrome which works fine with it.
I had problems initially after downloading it all with Chrome being unresponsive or just slow, but I used ADWCLEANER and it got rid of the problem and everything has been fine ever since.
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when upgrading it keeps a copy of your old O/S so u can roll back if you want or delete it later to free up any were up to 20 gig it uses for the save
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I upgraded my 6 year old Toshiba laptop to windows 10 shortly after it came out. It had generally the same start up time as win 7, about 3 to 4 minutes to settling down with fast boot switched on , but with loads of event errors. Programs were no faster than before. Out of curiosity I decided to back up the disk to a spare and wiped the original disk.
What a difference with windows 10 loaded from scratch, from switch on to usability less than 2 minutes with fast boot switched off, everything is a little faster and no more event log errors. The updated release of windows 10 now installed it is slightly better.
One recommendations is to go into the privacy setting and switch off any you do not want, there is no reason to have Microsoft tracking of you. Switch the feedback off and the Diagnostic and Usage to basic this cannot be turned off easily, unless you are using the enterprise version.
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As Darrsi said ...avoid the Edge browser...sometimes doesn't allow attachment with emails...no solution offered
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:agree I used it for an hour and went back to firefox, not a big fan of chrome or Internet explorer.
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My accounts package is win 95 !!!!
It runs on 7 but I doubt it'll work with 10 so I'm having to stick with 7.
No one I know has got windows 10 so I cant try it.
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being a computer novice, it looks like its either installed edge itself or I've allowed it. Would rather have IE with google as my home page like before but with the added extras of windows 10.
googled how to get rid of edge but it seemed long winded to me, can anyone offer a quick fix?
cheers
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really pissing me off now, how the foc do I get rid of this shite and do a system restore to my windows 8.1?
looked at doing it but the previous restore point offered was when I reactivated the avg free anti virus.......don't look like the previous sytem restores that I've done in the past
HELLLLLLPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Give it a little time.
IE doesn't exist on Windows 10. It is called Edge. Same thing really, just the next version. Works just as well and can use Google as your home page.
An alternative would be to use Firefox as your browser. I have always used IE (and now Edge) as they are there and never really had problems with them but also have Firefox and Chrome installed for the odd website that doesn't like IE.
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and.....if you prefer 8.1 to Windows 10, you need to book yourself an appointment at the local loony bin :pokefun
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I run 2 computers here at sharp hall, my work one which is xp and the family one that I brought with the focer font of knowledge help and that one is win 7 that I had to be dragged kicking and screaming to go for from the old family xp machine.Going from xp to win 7 everything looks far too "messy" and unnecessary.
As for win 10 - same as going from xp to 7 I don't like new things, I don't want to have to re-learn how to do stuff, xp worked, win 7 wont accept some of my software for example I have a pro scanner that in their wisdom epson do not supply a win 7 driver for, there is a long winded work around that I have yet to try but its just more shit I have to do and learn for no reason.
Can someone with win 8.1 or 10 confirm for me if something has been sorted from win 7
In xp I can move photos around in a folder and drag and drop them to re order them how I want, I can then re name them all in one go and xp will number them for me.
Win 7 wont let you drag and drop to re order photos within a folder, when you try it just snaps back to where it came from. So does win 8.1 and win 10 behave the same way, anyone?
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I can't upgrade. It keeps telling me my Nvidia graphics card (on board graphics so can't change) isn't whatchmacalled for Windows 10. The PC is only about 4 years old.
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Fazersharp, With Windows 10 you cant seem to be able to drag/drop to re-order the photos but the multiple rename works.
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being a computer novice, it looks like its either installed edge itself or I've allowed it. Would rather have IE with google as my home page like before but with the added extras of windows 10.
googled how to get rid of edge but it seemed long winded to me, can anyone offer a quick fix?
cheers
No need to get rid of it, it's not doing any harm, just don't open it up.
As I said before, Google Chrome works fine with it, just download and install that then set it as your default browser when it asks you.
Windows 10 is honestly better than 8 or 8.1, just give yourself time to get used to it.
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:agree
Windows 8 and 8.1 are crap (and that's from someone who works in IT)
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Fazersharp, With Windows 10 you cant seem to be able to drag/drop to re-order the photos but the multiple rename works.
Thanks for checking for me :thumbup
Well isnt that a load of crap :rolleyes and useless
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really pissing me off now, how the foc do I get rid of this shite and do a system restore to my windows 8.1?
looked at doing it but the previous restore point offered was when I reactivated the avg free anti virus.......don't look like the previous sytem restores that I've done in the past
HELLLLLLPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Internet Explorer is still on your machine .
go to All apps scrool down to windows accessories and it is in there. Right click it and click pin to start menu. :thumbup
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:agree
Windows 8 and 8.1 are crap (and that's from someone who works in IT)
:agree :agree
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managed to pin IE to the task bar but it won't open.......says connection issues with modem but edge opens the internet if I click on it
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Just saw on the news that they'll be no further support for Internet Explorer any more!
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foccing shite, should always have an easy option to restore
looking around the Microsoft website......loads are pissed off with Win 10, I cannot even open email links.......I thought pooters were meant to make life easier FFS and I cannot use the emoticons either
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XP is the best (non server) OS Microsoft has produced. It is outdated now, no support.
Windows 7 is the next best thing. I wouldn't advise "upgrading". Windows 10 has very suspicious privacy policy and, while it does work a bit quicker than win 7, it still tends to take up too much RAM from time to time, for no obvious reason. So if not running 16 + GB of RAM, I'd definitely stick with Win 7.
Win 8 is the fastest OS, but the user interface is... :crazy
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I'm running a 3 year old laptop with 6GB RAM and the Mrs uses a similar aged one with 4GB RAM. Both run Windows 10 with no issues.
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XP is the best (non server) OS Microsoft has produced. It is outdated now, no support.
And thats the problem -it is too good, people like/ liked it so much that they are reluctant to give it up and microsoft have had to resort to almost blackmail to wrench it out of peoples hands.
The fact that it is not supported is a good thing because everytime there was an "update" it just broke somthing.
Windows 10 has very suspicious privacy policy and, while it does work a bit quicker than win 7, it still tends to take up too much RAM from time to time, for no obvious reason.
That's because it is downloading all your history and info to the NSA
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foccing shite, should always have an easy option to restore
looking around the Microsoft website......loads are pissed off with Win 10, I cannot even open email links.......I thought pooters were meant to make life easier FFS and I cannot use the emoticons either
Generally, like most things, people will only leave a review when they want to moan about something, rather than to praise it, so I wouldn't take too much notice as I'm sure there are millions of people more than happy with Windows 10.
You have to take into account that some of these people may just have finger trouble or simply don't know what they're doing during the changeover process.
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XP is the best (non server) OS Microsoft has produced. It is outdated now, no support.
And thats the problem -it is too good, people like/ liked it so much that they are reluctant to give it up and microsoft have had to resort to almost blackmail to wrench it out of peoples hands.
The fact that it is not supported is a good thing because everytime there was an "update" it just broke somthing.
Windows 10 has very suspicious privacy policy and, while it does work a bit quicker than win 7, it still tends to take up too much RAM from time to time, for no obvious reason.
That's because it is downloading all your history and info to the NSA
Being ironic?
Anyhow, the memory problem will probably be solved with patches and/or a service pack.
The privacy problem - not sure if it will ever be solved by Microsoft.
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managed to pin IE to the task bar but it won't open.......says connection issues with modem but edge opens the internet if I click on it
Is you Operating system 64 bit or 32 bit?
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64 or 32.....dunno, how do I find out?
You have to take into account that some of these people may just have finger trouble or simply don't know what they're doing during the changeover process.
and therein lies the issue Darssi...............they offer an upgrade where you just click a tab to accept but only once its upgraded do you find out that certain important things to you that once worked, no longer work and not only that......you then can't do anything about it. I understand loads like it and that's great but for the numpties like me its a crying shame that I'm now on here asking advice instead of just doing a system restore
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64 or 32.....dunno, how do I find out?
You have to take into account that some of these people may just have finger trouble or simply don't know what they're doing during the changeover process.
and therein lies the issue Darssi...............they offer an upgrade where you just click a tab to accept but only once its upgraded do you find out that certain important things to you that once worked, no longer work and not only that......you then can't do anything about it. I understand loads like it and that's great but for the numpties like me its a crying shame that I'm now on here asking advice instead of just doing a system restore
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/which-operating-system (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/which-operating-system)
I'm only self taught, so don't think you're alone, I also rely on the mighty Google, YouTube and helpful forums like this.
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cheers......64 bit
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cheers......64 bit
:thumbup Good man Darrsi
Open Edge
Copy and paste this link into the Edge "Where to now box" https://www.microsoft.com/en-ie/download/internet-explorer-11-for-windows-7-details.aspx (https://www.microsoft.com/en-ie/download/internet-explorer-11-for-windows-7-details.aspx) and Click Next
On the next page click download
IE 11 will start to download
when it finishes downloading click Run
This will install the latest version of IE.
Let me know how you get on :)
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Internet explorer should already be installed, just type Internet in the search box !!! If you want to use it as your default browser just type Default in the search box, choose Default programs then Web Browser and select Internet Explorer.
/Edit: MS included IE11 in Windows 10 as a fall-back for sites that were not optimised for Edge.
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It does not work on all upgrades and has to be reinstalled :grumble
I eventually gave up using it due to problems even though I liked it and now use Firefox.
Never really took to Google Chrome
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It does not work on all upgrades and has to be reinstalled :grumble
I'm not really sure about that as it is part of the Windows 10 installation so there's no reason why it would have to be installed a second time unless the upgrade process failed at some point which isn't going to be a common occurrence.
https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2015/08/26/how-microsoft-edge-and-internet-explorer-11-on-windows-10-work-better-together-in-the-enterprise/
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Sounds like you're trying to polish a turd.
Time to move on and try a different browser, if you're not sure which one then try them all, apart from Edge, that's just minging.
One thing iwill recommend though, as i said earlier i use Chrome and i've downloaded a free app called ADBLOCK, which for some daft reason Edge won't let me use.
It blocks nearly all pop up adverts, and also stops those annoying 30 second videos on sites like YouTube, etc, before whatever you want to see.
An icon will sit in the top right corner of your so if you ever need to turn it off quickly, which is rare, then there is very easy access. It will also show a counter of how many ads blocked, mine's on nearly 400,000 at the moment, which goes to show how much annoying crap gets flaunted in front of you.
Really worth using if you don't already have it.
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Sounds like you're trying to polish a turd.
Not really just trying to clarify some misconceptions.
/Edit: I'm as reluctant to accept unnecessary change foisted upon me as the next man but sometimes you have to move with the times. I didn't like Edge at first but I've adapted to it and now happily use it as my regular browser, it seems cleaner and smoother than older browsers and I've not had any major issues with it.
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Sounds like you're trying to polish a turd.
Not really just trying to clarify some misconceptions.
/Edit: I'm as reluctant to accept unnecessary change foisted upon me as the next man but sometimes you have to move with the times. I didn't like Edge at first but I've adapted to it and now happily use it as my regular browser, it seems cleaner and smoother than older browsers and I've not had any major issues with it.
I was more than willing to use the Edge from the off but by it not allowing Adblock, and then finding out that Whatsapp Web didn't work either, which I really use a lot over the weekends while I'm on the laptop, it was a no brainer to go back to Chrome.
Realistically speaking Windows 10 is still a newbie and obviously, like anything new, it will have it's teething troubles, but as a whole I'm quite happy with it right now and would certainly recommend it, even more so while it's still free.
I am also part of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" brigade, but in comparison to Windows 8 which I set up for a mate of mine on his new computer, it's a world apart and a great improvement.
I've jumped from W7 to W10, so not too much of a change for me to be honest.
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I'm not really sure about that as it is part of the Windows 10 installation so there's no reason why it would have to be installed a second time unless the upgrade process failed at some point which isn't going to be a common occurrence.
https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2015/08/26/how-microsoft-edge-and-internet-explorer-11-on-windows-10-work-better-together-in-the-enterprise/ (https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2015/08/26/how-microsoft-edge-and-internet-explorer-11-on-windows-10-work-better-together-in-the-enterprise/)
And you go to a windows site to get the true information :rollin
The number of upgrades I have had to fix tells me otherwise, many are caused by malware on the machines when the upgrade took place others were cause by anti virus programs not working correctly which in a few cases the install process did not catch.
At this stage any one who comes to me with odd ball problems from the upgrade that cannot be sorted in 30 minutes I back up the complete disk to a spare, wipe the original and install Windows 10 from scratch. Not only is it faster it is also more far more stable.
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I'm not really sure about that as it is part of the Windows 10 installation so there's no reason why it would have to be installed a second time unless the upgrade process failed at some point which isn't going to be a common occurrence.
https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2015/08/26/how-microsoft-edge-and-internet-explorer-11-on-windows-10-work-better-together-in-the-enterprise/ (https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2015/08/26/how-microsoft-edge-and-internet-explorer-11-on-windows-10-work-better-together-in-the-enterprise/)
And you go to a windows site to get the true information :rollin
The number of upgrades I have had to fix tells me otherwise, many are caused by malware on the machines when the upgrade took place others were cause by anti virus programs not working correctly which in a few cases the install process did not catch.
At this stage any one who comes to me with odd ball problems from the upgrade that cannot be sorted in 30 minutes I back up the complete disk to a spare, wipe the original and install Windows 10 from scratch. Not only is it faster it is also more far more stable.
I must've picked up Malware when I changed over, but that Adwcleaner sorted it all out very well, the same as it did a couple of Xmas's ago when some sad bastard ruined everyone's day by hoofing out a nasty virus that completely took over the browser, and added about 3000 unwanted items to the my system.
My mates new laptop at the time had even more and it fixed his one as well. For such a basic looking app it works very thoroughly. :thumbup
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All this is exactly why I have stayed with xp.
I use firefox with that but am getting pissed off with it because it seems now that there is an update every 2 days and every time there is one it go's crap and something stops working.It used to work great, now I get 100% cpu spikes on some sites, I might start a separate post on that one after the weekend as i dont want to
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All this is exactly why I have stayed with xp.
I use firefox with that but am getting pissed off with it because it seems now that there is an update every 2 days and every time there is one it go's crap and something stops working.It used to work great, now I get 100% cpu spikes on some sites, I might start a separate post on that one after the weekend as i dont want to
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It's old, XP must be sooooooo sloooooow in comparison to Windows 7 or above.
I know my old laptop which has it on is. I crank it up occasionally just to blow away the cobwebs, and to remind me again how slow it really was.
I only keep it as I use it as another back-up place for a mountain of music.
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And you go to a windows site to get the true information :rollin
No I posted the link as evidence that I'm not talking out of my arse :rolleyes My job of work means I have to be more knowledgeable than most when it comes to these things so I get my information from a number of sources as well experience.
I don't doubt you've had some borked upgrades because the machines you've worked on have been borked in the first place but that does not negate the fact that Windows 10 comes with IE11 pre-installed and assuming a successful installation of Windows 10 there should be no reason other than user error to have to re-install Internet Explorer.
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All this is exactly why I have stayed with xp.
That's a very risky strategy if you value the security of your data.
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All this is exactly why I have stayed with xp.
I use firefox with that but am getting pissed off with it because it seems now that there is an update every 2 days and every time there is one it go's crap and something stops working.It used to work great, now I get 100% cpu spikes on some sites, I might start a separate post on that one after the weekend as i dont want to
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It's old, XP must be sooooooo sloooooow in comparison to Windows 7 or above.
I know my old laptop which has it on is. I crank it up occasionally just to blow away the cobwebs, and to remind me again how slow it really was.
I only keep it as I use it as another back-up place for a mountain of music.
Yes I have to admit that it is now looking slow as I also have another pc with win 7 but the speed is more to do with the newer pc with better cpu and and extra 6gb ram than the difference between xp and 7. I will be replacing my xp pc with a newer one with win 7 and I will NOT be upgrading to 10
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All this is exactly why I have stayed with xp.
That's a very risky strategy if you value the security of your data.
I have a paid for security software installed, whats the issue with an old xp then
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There is security and security.
XP is no longer supported by Microsoft so other vendors like Avast, MacAfee etc don't fully support XP with their products either. As browsers go out of support, MacAfee etc stop looking for and fixing things they find as it just adds cost with no benefit for them.
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I'm suprised that no-one has mentioned Linux yet
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There is security and security.
XP is no longer supported by Microsoft so other vendors like Avast, MacAfee etc don't fully support XP with their products either. As browsers go out of support, MacAfee etc stop looking for and fixing things they find as it just adds cost with no benefit for them.
I am still getting some sort of support for xp as I have just received an up date -Windows malicious software removal tool January 2016(KB890830) whats that then?
And as far as I am aware my Norton is fully supporting xp
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And as far as I am aware my Norton is fully supporting xp
From Norton support - "If you have a Windows XP computer, we strongly recommend that you upgrade to a more modern and supported operating system as soon as possible."
https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v95977279_EndUserProfile_en_us
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And as far as I am aware my Norton is fully supporting xp
From Norton support - "If you have a Windows XP computer, we strongly recommend that you upgrade to a more modern and supported operating system as soon as possible."
https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v95977279_EndUserProfile_en_us (https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v95977279_EndUserProfile_en_us)
This from the second line on the link you gave
Your Norton products will continue to support Windows XP for the foreseeable future.
I will be changing my pc for a win 7 one very shortly but hate the feeling that I am being forced into it
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And as far as I am aware my Norton is fully supporting xp
From Norton support - "If you have a Windows XP computer, we strongly recommend that you upgrade to a more modern and supported operating system as soon as possible."
https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v95977279_EndUserProfile_en_us (https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v95977279_EndUserProfile_en_us)
This from the second line on the link you gave
Your Norton products will continue to support Windows XP for the foreseeable future.
I will be changing my pc for a win 7 one very shortly but hate the feeling that I am being forced into it
You'll be putting unleaded fuel in your bike next. :lol
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thanks to unfazed and following his instructions, I've now got IE 11 back and its allowing me access to most if not all sites in my favourites tab. It will not ley me access my works system and when I try to log into work it gives a security message relating to the certificate of the site. Work have tried everything including remote access and even had me trying Chrome instead of IE but the same message appeared........work said its my end causing the issue
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thanks to unfazed and following his instructions, I've now got IE 11 back and its allowing me access to most if not all sites in my favourites tab. It will not ley me access my works system and when I try to log into work it gives a security message relating to the certificate of the site. Work have tried everything including remote access and even had me trying Chrome instead of IE but the same message appeared........work said its my end causing the issue
Oh, that old china, a bit like when my email address wouldn't receive any emails ONLY from work, but it was my fault, resulting in me needing a new address? :look
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And you go to a windows site to get the true information :rollin
No I posted the link as evidence that I'm not talking out of my arse :rolleyes My job of work means I have to be more knowledgeable than most when it comes to these things so I get my information from a number of sources as well experience.
I don't doubt you've had some borked upgrades because the machines you've worked on have been borked in the first place but that does not negate the fact that Windows 10 comes with IE11 pre-installed and assuming a successful installation of Windows 10 there should be no reason other than user error to have to re-install Internet Explorer.
and I worked as an IT administrator and IT trainer for 25 years :eek :thumbup
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thanks to unfazed and following his instructions, I've now got IE 11 back and its allowing me access to most if not all sites in my favourites tab. It will not ley me access my works system and when I try to log into work it gives a security message relating to the certificate of the site. Work have tried everything including remote access and even had me trying Chrome instead of IE but the same message appeared........work said its my end causing the issue
Use the snipping tool and post the message
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All this is exactly why I have stayed with xp.
I use firefox with that but am getting pissed off with it because it seems now that there is an update every 2 days and every time there is one it go's crap and something stops working.It used to work great, now I get 100% cpu spikes on some sites, I might start a separate post on that one after the weekend as i dont want to
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Security on XP is seriously lacking, in the last 3 months I have received 2 machines which had 2 different working versions of anti virus software and both were hit by what is called Ransomeware, Cryptolocker or Cryptowall virus/trojan.
It encrypts files and wants you to pay a ransom in Bitcoin to receive the encryption key. Bitcoin cannot be traced apparently
One lost years of work documents/pdfs, excel worksheets, t presentations, drawings and all his photographs (many were of his wife who died a year before). The first fellow had backups, but when he could not open the files he retrieved them from his back drive which then became infected. The second fellow lost everything on his, because he had no backup.
The encryption use is the latest virtually uncrackable by using a long RSA key of 1024 bits or more
Continue to use XP for internet and email access at your own risk :eek
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seems it was an antivirus issue that needed an update, got a prompt off my free AVG and once I'd hit the repair button, everything went ok......including the works connection
glad to be back on IE 11
thanks to everyone who gave me some advice
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All this is exactly why I have stayed with xp.
I use firefox with that but am getting pissed off with it because it seems now that there is an update every 2 days and every time there is one it go's crap and something stops working.It used to work great, now I get 100% cpu spikes on some sites, I might start a separate post on that one after the weekend as i dont want to
:hijack
Security on XP is seriously lacking, in the last 3 months I have received 2 machines which had 2 different working versions of anti virus software and both were hit by what is called Ransomeware, Cryptolocker or Cryptowall virus/trojan.
It encrypts files and wants you to pay a ransom in Bitcoin to receive the encryption key. Bitcoin cannot be traced apparently
One lost years of work documents/pdfs, excel worksheets, t presentations, drawings and all his photographs (many were of his wife who died a year before). The first fellow had backups, but when he could not open the files he retrieved them from his back drive which then became infected. The second fellow lost everything on his, because he had no backup.
The encryption use is the latest virtually uncrackable by using a long RSA key of 1024 bits or more
Continue to use XP for internet and email access at your own risk :eek
I dont keep anything on the computer, everything is backed and if that happened to me then I would just bin it.
Its all crap - computers are crap apple is crap