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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: nickodemon on 04 November 2013, 10:30:42 pm
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I have a set of avon storm tyres on my recently purchased fzs 600. they have worn unevenly front and rear. when i picked up bike it had 12 psi front and 17 psi rear. The rear has squared off even though there is loads of life in the tyre and the front has worn correctly, as in more worn in centre than sides but feels bumpy running my hand front to back. Has anyone else used avon storms? Whats the tyre of choice for crap weather for the fazer?
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+1 for BT023
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T30 has way surpassed my expectations in the wet, bit pricey though, but really worth the confidence to be truthful.
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ive got the pilot Road 3s, which are awesome in the wet!
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Im with the bt 023's too. Not run them on a fazer yet but on every other bike ive run theyve been fautless. Great grip levels and last really well too. Did thr ron haslam race school back in June and they use the new t 30's which are amazing but then they used 023's before them. It's your money but the 023's are superb.
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+1 for Michelin Pilot Road 3's. Great Grip and longevity.
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I had a set of Avon Storm 2 Ultra on which I was very happy with and still had plenty of tread left after 8k miles. But then the rear let me down in the middle of France. I had tyre sealant stuff in which probably stopped a rapid deflation, but in one place fine wires in the casing where sticking through on the inside so a get me home repair was not possible. Kind of put me off the Avons, but to be fair I suppose I must have run over some object without noticing it? Hobson's choice at the time was to replace it with a Metzeler Z6, which I am also happy with. Avon still on the front with even wear and still plenty of tread.
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Have used BTO23 which is a good tyre IMO however "Rhonnda Red" came shod with Pilot Road 3s-wont be going back to 023s!-outstanding wet grip from the Michelins!
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pr3s for me. used to have bt023s which were fine but the michelins are superior (and more expensive!)
t30s should be better.
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I use conti motion on the work bike and still can't outride the rubber in the wet. I do have ABS tho which is a godsend in the wet.
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I'm keen to try the pr3's but have been put off by Michelins. Reason being that I used to ride a courier company bike shod with the original pilot roads. In about 150000 miles of using them I must have had about 15 punctures...even got 3 in a week once. Now whether that's just bad luck in about 100000 miles of using 023's I haven't had a single one !!! Hope I haven't just jinxed myself :'(
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I know I'm going to get a slagging off from the 'non believers', but I've used Maxxix supermax for the last couple of years on my 600, and they've been good enough for my 10k/year commuting in all weathers on everything from B roads to motorway. And I don't hang about! :rolleyes
I even use Maxxis diamonds on my FZ1 now I trust them that much.
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I think with tyres people generally stick with what they know best. Its a personal preference based on good or bad experiences. As a certain plonker of a fashion expert says... "It's all about the confidence" :)
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I'm on Metzeler Z6's front and rear which so far I'm pretty happy with.
Already the front feels a lot more 'reliable' leaned over in the wet than the ME Z4's that were on the bike when I got it.
Also the front had a 120/60 instead of the Yamaha recommended 110/70 which I have now fitted. Could be placebo but it feels like before the tyre was too 'pointy' on account of being squeezed into the narrower rim. So it felt sketchy on the lean. Now seems much more predictable as the angle gets steeper. But the Z4's are older than the hills, so could just be a better tyre!!
for the next set I'm torn between trying the Maxxis's's's or the PR3's. I guess it'll depend on my bank account!
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Metzelers and Maxxis are the only tyres I can't comment on, I'm a sucker for trying new things but at the moment for me nothing beats the PR3's for road riding, only on track will they show any weakness!
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Michelin PR3 :-)
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Got a new T30 on the front (16000 miles on the previous BT23) and it feels planted, nice feedback in the wet and find myself going quicker round bends in the wet.
Got a 23 with 12000 miles on the back and NEVER had an issue with giving it the beans out of wet corners.
Ride every day into London
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Got a new T30 on the front (16000 miles on the previous BT23) and it feels planted, nice feedback in the wet and find myself going quicker round bends in the wet.
Got a 23 with 12000 miles on the back and NEVER had an issue with giving it the beans out of wet corners.
Ride every day into London
I have just the rear T30 and it sticks like glue in the wet, i'm very impressed with it.
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Metzelers and Maxxis are the only tyres I can't comment on, I'm a sucker for trying new things but at the moment for me nothing beats the PR3's for road riding, only on track will they show any weakness!
Try the Metezlers Sportec M5 :eek
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Michelin PR 3s every time. Brilliant in the wet, you almost forget it's raining :)
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Dunlop Roadsmart 2 are great in the wet and dry and wearing well too :)
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It seems like there are lots of us that are happy with our tyres, but that kinda makes sense as you want to tell yourself that it was money well spent while you've still got them.
So how about a list of the worst tyres for an fZS600 in the winter / wet? Ones that you'd never buy again even if they were cheaper than a set of Nangkong Ditch Destroyers!
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Any tyres I would never buy again are gone off the market :lol :lol :lol
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It's probably true to say that all tyres are mostly good today, can't think of any horror stories from the major tyre manufacturers, anyone know of any really dodgy ones?
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whats them dodgy fkrs they put on them chinese chopper copy,s...arnt they called ..jinlu or something like that?...90% nylon...they also make them for cars?...
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I'd second that. Remember Cheng shing and vee rubber ? :eek
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I'd second that. Remember Cheng shing and vee rubber ? :eek
...yea..gets me how they pass our tyre regs what good is a tyre made of 90%..nylon in our climate!...mabe lasting factor but no grip in wet at all...bk in 70,s continental used to be bstd,s for using to much nylon in the making of there tyres!!...better now though?...thank god!!
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I got a great deal on a set of four Continental tyres for my Pug 306 in about 2003. Ruined a great little car. Hardest rubber I've ever seen on tyres. In the wet they turned roundabouts into straightabouts! Terrible tyres.
Not really relevant though....
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got them on me fazer and they realy good!! dry or wet? ;) ....but again?...thats bike rubber isnt it?
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I'm on Maxxis Supermaxx and they are fine. Can't beat the price either, £125 per pair delivered
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I'm on Maxxis Supermaxx and they are fine. Can't beat the price either, £125 per pair delivered
....how do you find them in wet ?.....lads got pair on his bandit"...but front needs replacing!!
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No problems yet, been riding in rain all this week. I ride all winter too but I don't corner hard so I don't often find the limits of my tyres.
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No problems yet, been riding in rain all this week. I ride all winter too but I don't corner hard so I don't often find the limits of my tyres.
...yea cheers f that?...he doesnt ride too hard on corners either so should be ok!!...not had it on road yet?...silly boy thinks its better than a fazer? :rolleyes ......
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No problems yet, been riding in rain all this week. I ride all winter too but I don't corner hard so I don't often find the limits of my tyres.
...yea cheers f that?...he doesnt ride too hard on corners either so should be ok!!...not had it on road yet?...silly boy thinks its better than a fazer? :rolleyes ......
You really do like your punctuation don't you chap :lol
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No problems yet, been riding in rain all this week. I ride all winter too but I don't corner hard so I don't often find the limits of my tyres.
...yea cheers f that?...he doesnt ride too hard on corners either so should be ok!!...not had it on road yet?...silly boy thinks its better than a fazer? :rolleyes ......
You really do like your punctuation don't you chap :lol
....nah" not realy had any since using puncture safe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol
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I'd second that. Remember Cheng shing and vee rubber ? :eek
Maxxis and cheng shin are the same tyre manufacturer, Maxxis being they're 'premium' tyre
I had the Bridgestone T30 rear let go on me in the wet the other day, mid corner on ever so slight acceleration, although admittedly when I checked pressures the next day it was down to 24, yep, low, which is funny because steering hadn't become overly heavy which makes me believe whatever the construction it must be pretty stiff!
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I'd second that. Remember Cheng shing and vee rubber ? :eek
Maxxis and cheng shin are the same tyre manufacturer, Maxxis being they're 'premium' tyre
I had the Bridgestone T30 rear let go on me in the wet the other day, mid corner on ever so slight acceleration, although admittedly when I checked pressures the next day it was down to 24, yep, low, which is funny because steering hadn't become overly heavy which makes me believe whatever the construction it must be pretty stiff!
24 ???
That would normally be like riding with a sack of spuds as a tyre! :lol
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I'd second that. Remember Cheng shing and vee rubber ? :eek
Maxxis and cheng shin are the same tyre manufacturer, Maxxis being they're 'premium' tyre
I had the Bridgestone T30 rear let go on me in the wet the other day, mid corner on ever so slight acceleration, although admittedly when I checked pressures the next day it was down to 24, yep, low, which is funny because steering hadn't become overly heavy which makes me believe whatever the construction it must be pretty stiff!
24 ???
That would normally be like riding with a sack of spuds as a tyre! :lol
Completely agree, I can normally tell if the pressure has dropped by 4 let alone that much hence why I'm thinking the structure must be pretty stiff!
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I'd second that. Remember Cheng shing and vee rubber ? :eek
Maxxis and cheng shin are the same tyre manufacturer, Maxxis being they're 'premium' tyre
I had the Bridgestone T30 rear let go on me in the wet the other day, mid corner on ever so slight acceleration, although admittedly when I checked pressures the next day it was down to 24, yep, low, which is funny because steering hadn't become overly heavy which makes me believe whatever the construction it must be pretty stiff!
24 ???
That would normally be like riding with a sack of spuds as a tyre! :lol
Completely agree, I can normally tell if the pressure has dropped by 4 let alone that much hence why I'm thinking the structure must be pretty stiff!
Yeah, i'm pretty hot on it as well, i'm fortunate to have air lines at work so i check mine quite often anyway.
Dropped my rear to 40 recently, was finding 42 just a little too much, but if the structure is stiff like you say then i could probably go down to 38 which could be good for winter.
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running 34/38 through winter darrsi...and i think it makes a diffrence?....thats on contis!
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Go too low on pressures and you're negating the effect the sipes have on wet roads- too low a pressure and the tyre deforms so much the sipes close up and won't push the water at the contact point on the road!
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Go too low on pressures and you're negating the effect the sipes have on wet roads- too low a pressure and the tyre deforms so much the sipes close up and won't push the water at the contact point on the road!
I'll probably just stick around the 40psi then so the bike can cope with my slender physique. :lol