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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Carb Balancing Problems
« on: 05 December 2015, 05:14:43 pm »
For what it's worth here is a picture of the adjuster and springs between carbs 1 and 2, looking from the air filter side.
Number 1 on the left. The bit between the adjuster (at top) and the bottom spring is attached to No 1 spindle. Adjuster and bottom spring seat is attached to No 2 spindle. The top spring is just to hold the adjuster at the set position.
I guess if No 1 butterfly was fully closed (or some how stopped from fully closing), then screwing the adjuster down would open No 2 and also 3 and 4 at the same time. If you think that is a possibility you could try screwing the idle adjuster (on flexible cable going to bottom centre of carbs) in to partly open all the carbs and see if No 1 to 2 adjuster still moves No 2. It shouldn't.




All sorted!


Thanks for everyones help, especially the pic you posted Limax2. When I put the "new" carb number 1 onto the others carbs I just jammed them together, with the result that the tab of the adjustment lever from carb 1 was in the middle of the spring that should have been below it, as per your photo, so that the screw at the top contacts with the tab.


It was a bit of a fiddle to get the tab in the right place and the spring jumped out more than once. About 6 times!!! In the end I put the spring in position then put the carb back on and used the two long bolts that connect all the carbs to pull it in slowly. Once it was just pushing against the side of the spring I managed to flick it underneath with a screwdriver.


The reason I didn't spot it was because the breather tube lies right in front of the adjuster, so in the photo Limax2 posted it would obscure the screw totally.


As for the throttle not snapping back. I think I had managed to cross over the two cables underneath the fuel tank. Fixed now.


And the Carbtune works properly now and I've balanced the carbs so she's so much better now. Not spot on, but it's my project bike and everything will be coming apart again soon. Just need to ride her to see how she runs with the pods and the Dynojet kit fitted.


Thanks again folks.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Carb Balancing Problems
« on: 03 December 2015, 04:22:07 pm »
Thanks Limax2.


So why is the butterfly in carb number 2 moving in my original carbs, but not in carb number 1? Have I installed the replacement carb number 1 incorrectly?


Good idea about the diaphragm swap. However would first like to resolve the inconsistency of the butterflies opening if possible. From what you say carb number 2 butterfly should not move when adjusting the balance between number 1 and 2. Except it does!

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Carb Balancing Problems
« on: 03 December 2015, 02:15:57 pm »
Thanks for the suggestions guys, especially the extensive post by His Dudeness.


I have limited time today, so here's what I've done today.


Firstly swapped over the hoses on the carbtune and I still get the high reading from the left/nearside carb. It's right at the top of the meter. So It's not the meter.


I've pulled the carbs off. I can't really see anything wrong, but bear in mind I'm new to working on carbs, so please treat me as someone with no knowledge.


I had a look at what happens when I turn the balancing screws and found something interesting. I'm guessing that moving the balancing adjuster screw changes the angle of the butterfly in just one of the carbs? Please confirm or deny this.


Looking at the original carbs, plus the replacement from the ones I bought from Deefer666 I can see that when turning the balancing adjuster screw for the two left/nearside carbs, the butterfly in the carb on the inside of the left/nearside carb moves, but the outer one doesn't appear to move. Looks the same on the other two carbs, just one butterfly moves.


However when I do the same thing on the replacement carbs, with my mangled carb on it, I see that the butterfly in the left/nearside carb moves, but not the one on the inside of the left/nearside carb! That confuses me, as it's the opposite of the other set of carbs. Surely the same butterfly would move? If only one butterfly moves when making adjustments between two carbs then perhaps I should swap the carbs back and just install the replacement carbs from Deefer666?


Hope that all makes sense.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Carb Balancing Problems
« on: 03 December 2015, 12:50:14 am »
Thanks for the link. Very useful.


I didn't set the TPS before starting, would that make much of a difference?


I forgot to mention I also fitted a Dynojet kit (needles and main jets) and changed the fuel mixture screws as per their instructions (2.5 turns out on each carb).


As the problem carb is the second hand replacement I fitted, is it possible there is an issue with that carb? Maybe the diaphragm is damaged?


As the rod on the Carbtune is right to the top of the scale, is that indicating a lack of vacuum, or something else?

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FZS600 Fazer / Carb Balancing Problems
« on: 02 December 2015, 09:22:50 pm »
I had to replace one of my carbs as it was damaged due to air screw being seized in place. I got a secondhand set (from Deefer666, thank you) and just used the one carb I needed, which was far left side of bike.


I have pod filters fitted and after switching the damaged carb thought I should balance the carbs. So bought a Morgan Carbtune balancer and tried to balance the carbs. Problem I'm getting is the carb I replaced is reading virtually off the scale and miles apart from the carb next to it or any of the others. I've adjusted the balancing screw pretty much through the whole range and I can't get it to come down. Have I missed something out? I've never balanced carbs before.


Also after swapping the carbs and refitting them the throttle cable is quite sticky in operation, that is if I let go of an open throttle it doesn't really snap shut.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Digital speedo help !
« on: 02 December 2015, 09:12:12 pm »
I hope you have better luck than I did with one of those. I sent it back and bought a Koso instead. Much better.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Project Ruby Racer (custom FZS600)
« on: 21 September 2015, 11:45:57 pm »
Thanks for the kind words and sorry for the lack of progress recently. Project is still on the go, just not had chance to attack it as it's track day season at the moment. Speaking of which, I blew my Daytona 675at Oulton last week and I'm off to Valencia Friday week! Interesting few days ahead.  :'(


I see that wrap around frame idea as more for a sports bike than an upright. Not sure it would look right on my kind of build. Plus I really like down tubes!


If you were to do it I'd want to take it someone who knew what they were doing as it could seriously affect handling, stability, etc.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Ideas to stop chain's rear side plates drying out?
« on: 21 August 2015, 11:46:03 pm »

Stop waisting your money, even if you are a Jersey Bean


 :thumbup

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Ideas to stop chain's rear side plates drying out?
« on: 16 August 2015, 06:54:41 pm »
Ye must be made of money. Spray lube is a rip off. Dirty old engine oil does the job


Yup. I live in Jersey where everyone is a millionaire!  ;)

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Ideas to stop chain's rear side plates drying out?
« on: 15 August 2015, 11:51:55 pm »
Wurth non fling chain lube is excellent. I use it all the time.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Project Ruby Racer (custom FZS600)
« on: 23 June 2015, 11:58:48 pm »
If I do encounter problems then my first plan is to fit the CDI from a YZF600R Thundercat as this uses virtually the same engine. I've looked at the wiring diagrams for each bike and it all looks virtually the same (minus the speed sensor on the Thundercat), with the same colour wires going to the same places. So I've got a second hand CDI for twenty quid and we'll see if that will work.


Haven't got that far yet, so haven't tried it.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: FZS600 USD fork conversion query
« on: 20 June 2015, 12:48:22 am »
wow thats nice work - can someone tell me....why do you re-valve forks - is it just due to wear and tear or can valving be an adjustable part?


A sports bike carries more weight over the front wheel so needs a firmer set up. Plus it's designed for control at speeds in excess of what a Fazer can achieve. Also the weight of the rider is relevant.


Then you have to consider the preferences of the rider. Bike web forums are full of "ideal" suspension settings for a particular model. There is no such thing. Only an ideal set up for each rider, as we all have a different idea of what is ideal. If Pedrosa got on Marquez's bike, or vice versa, they'd probably hate the set up.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Fazer 600 with pod filters
« on: 25 May 2015, 10:19:08 pm »
Still a work in progress for me.

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For Sale & Wanted / Re: WANTED - FZS 600 Carburettor Left side
« on: 07 April 2015, 12:15:52 am »
No worries.

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For Sale & Wanted / Re: WANTED - FZS 600 Carburettor Left side
« on: 03 April 2015, 12:06:12 am »
Thanks I'll bear that in mind. Just waiting for Deefer666 to see if he has any kicking around, so I'll give him first shot at making a sale.

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For Sale & Wanted / Re: WANTED - FZS 600 Carburettor Left side
« on: 01 April 2015, 11:20:32 pm »
Cheers ChristoT. PM sent.

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For Sale & Wanted / WANTED - FZS 600 Carburettor Left side
« on: 01 April 2015, 05:55:05 pm »
Need ONE carburettor for the outer left/clutch side of the bank of four for a 1998 FZS 600. Cosmetic condition not too important, but all needles, jets, etc must be moving freely and not seized in place. That I have already!  :o


Failing that a complete set will have to be bought, so anybody got a complete set they wish to part with?

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Where can I get 'quarter bikini fairings'
« on: 01 April 2015, 12:45:15 am »
Much to learn, have you. Hmmmmm.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Where can I get 'quarter bikini fairings'
« on: 31 March 2015, 11:49:23 pm »
Damnit, ya beat me!  :lol


You're in denial. You already realised you were beaten with your comment: Damnit, ya beat me! :lol




 :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Where can I get 'quarter bikini fairings'
« on: 31 March 2015, 11:15:22 pm »
122 Euro. That's about £88.

Damnit, ya beat me!  :lol


Ya snooze, ya lose!  8)

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Where can I get 'quarter bikini fairings'
« on: 31 March 2015, 11:09:05 pm »
122 Euro. That's about £88.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Project Ruby Racer (custom FZS600)
« on: 30 March 2015, 11:49:33 pm »
I know, I know! Update coming soon.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Chain replacement
« on: 22 March 2015, 12:48:33 am »
Dropping the swing arm is really straight forward and pretty quick. You could do it with the rear wheel in place, but much easier with it removed.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: new rack
« on: 22 March 2015, 12:42:12 am »
Lovely bit of fabing there.  :)

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Chain replacement
« on: 18 March 2015, 11:49:48 pm »
If you drop your swing arm out you can fit an endless chain.

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