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Title: Downpipe choices
Post by: Beeblebrox2nd on 03 March 2015, 12:43:21 am
Evening all.

Got a spot of bother regarding my downpipes.
They're original '01 pipes and I've just started to notice 2 wee pinholes in the connecting tubes between pipes1&2, and pipes 3&4 with some ticking/popping sounds coming from them. Whilst this isn't overtly annoying or 'owt, I'm reckoning on getting a replacement set soon.

Would any of you fine ladies or gentlemen be able to direct me to a place whereupon I could procure said new pipes? I've noticed a few eBay sellers offering pattern pipes for about £150-170 but not really sure about their quality.

Ta muchly, and all that malarky!
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: ChristoT on 03 March 2015, 12:51:55 am
Motad and Sandybikespares both do stainless sets for our trusty steeds. ;)
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: clayt74 on 03 March 2015, 07:49:58 am
I fitted motads to mine and am very happy. Easy to fit and a lifetime guarantee! Make sure what ever u buy that the have the small Link  pipes between 1&2, 3&4. Some of the cheaper ones don't and have a bad effect on mid range power
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Fazerider on 03 March 2015, 08:44:10 am
I've had a Motad set which were a good fit, but eventually the pipes fractured around the bracing welds underneath.
SandyBikeSpares were not so good, they seemed about an inch too short to comfortably mate up with the silencer. Also the exhaust clamps break rather easily.
I'll be giving Delkevic a try next.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Jules-C on 03 March 2015, 02:26:26 pm
I had a set from Sandy and one of the clamps broke.  The clamps appear to be a different grade of stainless that gives problems.  The Sandy ones don't have the balance pipes between #1 and #2 and between #3 and #4.

Got Motads on now but they now have a hole at the weld at one of the balance pipes

Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: RMT1983 on 03 March 2015, 09:41:21 pm
Ive got a set for sale, they were being kept for someone but they haven't got back to me and I cant sit waiting...................
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Buzz on 04 March 2015, 04:07:45 pm
I called up Motad direct a few months go and told them I'd seen a set go on Ebay for £125, they said "No Problem".  I paid on the phone and the pipes arrived 2 days later.  Awesome service!
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: clayt74 on 04 March 2015, 05:26:45 pm
I don't understand people saying their motads are failing? Mine came direct from motads with a lifetime warranty against material or workmanship for as long as I was the owner.
If your motads have failed contact them
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: HarryHornby on 04 March 2015, 05:52:45 pm
Buzz, just checking, coz this seems too good to be true and I might do the same.....


On their pricelist their FZS600 fazer downpipes are £246 but one phonecall and they sold them for £125???  I may be making a call if that's the case...


RMT1983 - what state are your second hand ones in?  Are they original?  Do they have the cross pipes that people mention on this thread?


Cheers
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: SpokesT on 05 March 2015, 06:14:14 pm
Mine have gone too, perforated at the collector box. Discovered this today.  I suppose I can't really complain, they're the originals on my 03 bike. So we can call Motad and tell em what we want to pay rather than their list price?? How does that work? I've been quoted £120 to have the holes welded for the upcoming MoT, but if I can pay a bit more for new downpipes and collector box it would seem a waste of money to get any welding done. Anyone bought any new uns recently?
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: hybrid400 on 05 March 2015, 06:30:42 pm
I did the same as buzz and rang them directly and got them for about 140 quid delivered-give them a ring,its a good quality pipe.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: SpokesT on 06 March 2015, 09:27:11 pm
I've sent em an email telling em I've been referred on here and how much etc. Fingers crossed...
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: mtread on 06 March 2015, 11:16:25 pm
Motads are definitely the way to go, especially if you can get those prices. Careful when taking the old ones off. Snapped studs etc.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: fatbloke62 on 07 March 2015, 07:56:27 am
I can vouch for contacting motad direct I did when I needed downpipes on my vfr800 , as I live close I just called in spoke to the guy's ordered  and collected a few days later, good fit and a good  price and  well made
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: SpokesT on 09 March 2015, 01:37:03 pm
theyve got back to me saying they can supply their Venom downpipes for £158 including delivery. I just need to establish whether that includes all the gubbins such as new bolts and gaskets etc then I think I'll go for that. Got my MoT in six weeks or so, and this should see it sail through again, fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Punkstig on 11 March 2015, 10:27:58 am
Motad don't include the gaskets, they're about £10- £15 for a set!
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: thunderpantz on 11 March 2015, 12:08:44 pm
I paid £140 for my motads with the gaskets
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Jules-C on 16 March 2015, 04:28:53 pm
I don't understand people saying their motads are failing? Mine came direct from motads with a lifetime warranty against material or workmanship for as long as I was the owner.
If your motads have failed contact them

Emailed Motad after I stumbled over the invoice at the weekend.  Quick response from them saying the downpipes/collector have a 3 year warranty.  Once I've taken failed pipes off they will arrange for courier to collect them and then send out new pipes.

Lifetime warranty possibly applies to end cans?
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: clayt74 on 16 March 2015, 06:11:25 pm
I don't understand people saying their motads are failing? Mine came direct from motads with a lifetime warranty against material or workmanship for as long as I was the owner.
If your motads have failed contact them

Emailed Motad after I stumbled over the invoice at the weekend.  Quick response from them saying the downpipes/collector have a 3 year warranty.  Once I've taken failed pipes off they will arrange for courier to collect them and then send out new pipes.

Lifetime warranty possibly applies to end cans?
I will dig out my paperwork, cos I only purchased downpipes....... Still running stock end can.......... I have been wrong before, but not often on something in my favour
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: gerkin on 17 March 2015, 07:18:18 pm
+ 1 for the motad 140 quid inc delivery in 2010 ,so there getting cheaper!!??
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Buzz on 19 March 2015, 01:14:09 pm
I'd still call 'em up direct and put them on the spot, "saw a set on Ebay for £130" and go from there.  I got these (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SET-OF-4-COPPER-EXHAUST-GASKETS-Yamaha-FZS-600-Fazer-1998-2003-NEW-/351209580398?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item51c5b8e76e) gaskets from Ebay for £5, just make sure the flanges are clean and not caked with crud, any pressure on the gaskets with a screwdriver when trying to seat them and you'll put a big dent in them, they're only thin.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: risticuss on 20 March 2015, 10:22:19 am
Aside for Motad/Venom and Sandybikespares, has anyone tried Delkevic.


I bought a set for my CBR and they seemed pretty good, but the ones they stock for the Fazer come in 3 pieces, Cylinder 1&2 together, 3&4 together and the collector, with spring clips to secure the downpipes to the collector. The header sections have the balance pipes on them. They have a 1 year guarantee and cost £180 so about average really.


I emailed them to see if they sold the 3 parts separately, as that was the only reason I could think that they would split them, in case the collector rusted through it could be replaced, but they only sell them as a set.


Anyone tried these or what are your thoughts on them?

Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Skippernick on 20 March 2015, 08:30:18 pm
I noticed this and thought it was weird, interested to know if anyone has bought them.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Jules-C on 20 March 2015, 09:00:03 pm
Easier to build as it doesn't have to be quite as accurate since the pipe to collector box will allow for slight misalignment?  Or easier to store and ship?

Some bikes that don't have one piece downpipes and collector box may require the exhaust to be fitted individually due to alignment of exhaust ports and frame frame tubes etc and Delkevic have got used to doing it that way?
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Fazerider on 22 April 2015, 07:06:05 pm

For those that are interested in Delkevic downpipes, this is how my recent purchase worked out.
The advantage of the separate downpipes and collector design is clear, they fit in a surprisingly small box. In the absence of any included instructions I assembled them off the bike since those springs that hold the headers in the collector looked as if they'd need a lot of force. In fact, they need an amazing stretch... way beyond the elastic limit, i.e. they don't return to their original length once they've been pulled far enough to hook the parts together.


(https://s19.postimg.cc/rablgah2b/Delkevic_1.jpg)


I then offered the pipes up to the bike, locating the downpipes into the cylinder head ports and loosely bolting the rear to the support under the footpeg, and found the fit was not all it could be.
For a start the headers run noticeably closer to the frame where they go past the steel coolant pipe. For most people that wouldn't be a problem, but I'd had to reposition the coolant pipe a bit forward to suit an aftermarket radiator and it was now stopping the left hand header from seating properly. After changing the spacer for the coolant pipe I was then able to get the headers to seal against the cylinder head ok.
Well... ok until I tightened up the rear bolt. The collector wanted to be lower, further forward and to the left of where it should be, with it forced into position by the bolt the strain was enough to cause the downpipes to leak at the head. Removing the rear bolt completely solved that, but I wasn't happy with the entire system supported on the header clamps and the strap hanger for the silencer... and suspected an MOT inspector wouldn't be either.


(https://s19.postimg.cc/d2lwrn4df/Delkevic_2.jpg)


After an email exchange with Delkevic they advised that the springs are attached afterwards and the downpipes shouldn't be seated fully into the collector. So, after dismantling and assembling again, the fit is better but still not good. I've had to include a spacer of 5mm between the collector bracket and the footpeg support to reduce the sideways strain on the headers, the pipes are about 1 cm from being fully seated into the collector, the springs are about 3x their natural length… it's a bit noisy and I can't work out if it's still leaking at a joint somewhere.


Since Motad downpipes are accurately made so they bolt straight on and are less expensive, I now wish I'd gone back to them rather than experimenting.
Still, at least you don't need to make the same mistake. :lol
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Skippernick on 22 April 2015, 10:23:33 pm
Interesting thanks for that fazerider, bad luck though :o
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: unfazed on 13 May 2015, 10:45:56 pm
Interesting, about Delkevic, I just bought a set before seeing Fazeriders problems.

I have exactly the same issue of the downpipes not fitting on the 600. The 2 right hand  pipes just will not fit in the head with the rear mounting tight and with the clamps tighten on the head the rear mount was 25mm away from the mounting and stuck up against the stand. :rolleyes

Wrote to Delkevic and they sent me a replacement set, spent 3 hours in the garage tonight and the new set have exactly the same problem, but this time the mounting is 18mm away. and touching the stand bolt. It is just the 2 right hand pipes again. There was to much strain when on the clamp bolts at the head when trying to pull the rear mount in and I am not going to risk foccing up the head bolts by forcing it. :'(

The reason I bought them was that I have fitted them to other bikes without any problem and know a few with fazers who have fitted them without any problems.
I have written to them again and sent pictures this time.
Will keep you all posted

Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: bandit on 13 May 2015, 11:37:48 pm
Refund & get some Motad ones.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: unfazed on 14 May 2015, 12:38:10 am
That is the plan now, but I will wait to see what they say in the reply tomorrow first.

The quality is ok, but that foccing jig they are using to make them must be seriously misaligned  :rolleyes

Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Jules-C on 14 May 2015, 10:02:13 am
Been waiting 5 weeks for new Motad downpipes after sending old set back for replacement under warranty, before sending them back they said they had FZS600 pipes in stock but by time it took the old pipes and they arranged courier to pick them up they had none left.  Took a couple of weeks for them to make a new batch and then they found they had used the wrong head rings.  New batch being made and should have a set next week.

Lucky I have car and access to other bikes or my 20 minute commute would've become  a 1 hour 20 minute bus trip each way!
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Fazerider on 14 May 2015, 10:50:32 am

Sorry to hear that, unfazed.


After I wrote to them initially Delkevic offered a replacement, but after another attempt at fitting them and getting a borderline satisfactory result I couldn't be bothered with organising an exchange and going through the fitting routine yet again. I also figured that since they're all bound to have been made on the one jig, they're all going to be pretty much the same anyway.
It's very disappointing that something priced at the top end of the pattern replacement market barely fits despite the flexibility allowed by the joints into the collector.


I just went out to take a couple of photos to give a clearer idea of what was necessary to make the pipes fit.


(https://s19.postimg.cc/q714f6s4j/rear_bracket.jpg)


You an just about make out the extra nut needed as a spacer so the rear bracket doesn't get forced all the way over to the mounting point.




(https://s19.postimg.cc/noffei6eb/collector.jpg)


The downpipes were about 10mm from fully seated… and now I find that over the past couple of thousand miles the springs have pulled them almost all the way into the collector. Which probably explains why the thing sounds crap again: the leverage must have opened up slight gaps where the pipes clamp to the cylinder head.


I've just written to Delkevic again. I can't waste more time on finding new ways to bodge these onto the bike so I've asked for a refund.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Jules-C on 14 May 2015, 12:16:27 pm
No point trying a third set a you say since there is clearly a problem with their jig.  Shame when you spend the time and effort trying to get them to fit twice with no success.

The Sandy Bike Spares ones don't have a bracket for bolting to the footrest bracket but they are one piece, with the springs holding the pipes into the collector it is an essential part of the set up that it is aligned correctly.

Did Delkevic use a crashed bike with bent frame to build their jig?
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Fazer Forever on 14 May 2015, 01:00:51 pm
I've got Delkevic pipes and can, bought seperately. Had them a few years but don't remember the pipes in three pieces, and I certainly don't have the springs,
so maybe they've changed the design. No problems with fitting and are lasting well.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: unfazed on 14 May 2015, 05:39:08 pm
Delkevic were back on to me and are going to check the ones I returned as the second set had the same problem and will let me know tomorrow.
I did suggest possible jig misalignment since one side is perfect.
I fitted a set to a fazer over 3 years ago and do not remember having any problems.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Inertia_v1 on 18 May 2015, 06:11:15 pm
has anybody tried the black widow exhausts on ebay?
 
Regards
Inertia
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Ebme Geek on 18 May 2015, 06:58:53 pm
the shop on those is listed as "sandybikespares", not sure if these are what is refered to on here as sandy pipes and they have been re-branded.
 
I went with Motad when I changed mine, phoned them and quoted an ebay price, as others here have aswell.
Can't remember how long I have had them, but still happy  :)
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: sinto on 18 May 2015, 08:30:46 pm
the shop on those is listed as "sandybikespares", not sure if these are what is refered to on here as sandy pipes and they have been re-branded.
 

Exactly the same company my friend :)
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Inertia_v1 on 18 May 2015, 09:01:58 pm
Are they a good choice? Im new here and to bike mods in general, from what I have seen they all seem to have there own issues?

Regards
Inertia
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: sinto on 18 May 2015, 09:18:44 pm
Welcome to the forum,
Go here http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/board,5.0.html (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/board,5.0.html) and introduce yourself and where your from etc and post some pics of your bike (always a good start) :lol

As far as exhaust pipes, it's all down to personal choice and wallet thickness :)

Presuming you've read all this thread (but there's loads more in this forum) you'll see there is problems with all aftermarket systems, it's just down to reading up and making your choice.

:eek And of course adding a silencer comes with even more choices :rolleyes

Only thing that is common throughout the threads is get stainless steel :)

And this will make interesting reading BEFORE you attempt to take the pipes off.
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,16432.0.html (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,16432.0.html)
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Inertia_v1 on 18 May 2015, 10:11:51 pm
At the moment it's garaged with the engine out, broken shift shaft
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: sinto on 18 May 2015, 10:15:10 pm
At the moment it's garaged with the engine out, broken shift shaft
:(
You'll find help on that I'm sure if you use the search function
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Inertia_v1 on 18 May 2015, 10:15:29 pm
At the moment it's garaged with the engine out, broken shift shaft.
The previous owner did a lot with it, but I'm intending to keep the project running, so I figure replacing the downpipes while fitting the new engine seems to be the right time
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Inertia_v1 on 18 May 2015, 10:18:29 pm
My phones smileys seem to be cutting my posts short lol
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: anutz on 18 May 2015, 10:22:09 pm
I currently have a spare engine i am cleaning up and one task it to get the engine studs replaced with stainless steel - will be updating as i go....not something you will probably want to mess with - but its a spare so i figured why not - plan it so swap it in during winter

http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,17020.0.html (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,17020.0.html)
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Inertia_v1 on 18 May 2015, 10:22:20 pm
Yeah I have been reading a lot about this issue, I was going to try and fix it myself but I came across an engine for a good price so I opted for that solution. The old one can become a separate project at a later time :)
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: sinto on 18 May 2015, 10:26:41 pm
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,17020.0.html (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,17020.0.html)

anutz's follow up on his spare engine


No point me doing that ^^^^^^^ if anutz already put it there :lol
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: sinto on 18 May 2015, 10:28:37 pm
My phones smileys seem to be cutting my posts short lol
Yeah it does that, you have to use emicons or whatever they're called
Took me ages to figure that out!
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Inertia_v1 on 18 May 2015, 10:39:42 pm
Cool thanks that will be a nice one to follow :)
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: sinto on 18 May 2015, 10:41:37 pm
Cool thanks that will be a nice one to follow :)
anutz is actually an under cover mechanic kidding on he works in an office :lol :rollin
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Inertia_v1 on 18 May 2015, 10:45:25 pm
We all like to have a little tinkle from time to time lol
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Pickle on 04 August 2015, 03:41:18 pm
Well Motad aren't offering any more than a 10% discount at the moment but seeing as my pipes are shot to shit they appear to have me over a barrel.
I'm sure he could hear the tears rolling down my cheeks as he took my card details!  :o


Now to get the old ones off - Let  the battle commence  :2guns
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: darrsi on 04 August 2015, 06:40:14 pm
Well Motad aren't offering any more than a 10% discount at the moment but seeing as my pipes are shot to shit they appear to have me over a barrel.
I'm sure he could hear the tears rolling down my cheeks as he took my card details!  :o


Now to get the old ones off - Let  the battle commence  :2guns


If you knew they were coming off you should've been regularly treating them with penetrating oil of some sort.
Good luck though, you may be fortunate.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: unfazed on 04 August 2015, 07:55:22 pm
If in doubt, use a nut splitter and clean the threads with a 6mm die

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41au92chKPL.jpg)
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Pickle on 04 August 2015, 08:28:52 pm
Well I got 6 off no problem, sheared one and rounded off the nut on another. Like the nut splitter idea but doubt I'd get it in around the nut its the one under the oil feed pipe so not a lot of room. I think I'm going to have to cut the pipes off to get access. These studs should be at least 8mm!!
I don't know if my nuts are standard but they are long with a hex recess for an Allen key.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: sinto on 04 August 2015, 08:30:44 pm
Where's the expert anutz on this matter? He done a complete rebuild and sure he'll have a good few pointers :)
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: mr wayneker on 10 August 2015, 04:53:50 pm
cant see any motad for under £300 :eek
not looking forward to getting these off
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Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: unfazed on 10 August 2015, 05:37:02 pm
I would be more concerned about the state of the oil pipe :'(
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: mr wayneker on 10 August 2015, 05:58:05 pm
getting some more HEL lines soon so will soon find out about the oil line :'(

actually the bolts shouldn't be to bad to get off the exhaust as long as the studs are ok :rolleyes
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: fatbloke62 on 10 August 2015, 06:10:19 pm
look on this thread on 10th march, spokesT got his motad downpipes for £158
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: mr wayneker on 10 August 2015, 06:18:25 pm
yeah I saw that but there is no follow up

I don't see how you can get that much off the retail price for motad downpipes
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: risticuss on 11 August 2015, 02:40:00 pm
When I was looking for downpipes for my CBR6 a couple of years ago,  motad sold their venom range for approx. £180 or you could get them on ebay occasionally from motad for £160 as opposed to the £233 it was for their mptad range. Exactly the same pipes,  just a different grade of stainless, and a shorter guarantee period.. But on their website now the only mention of venom for the fazer is the end can and link pipe.

You could try calling them to find out if they still do the venom downpipes for the fazer. A look in their ebay should a few weeks ago showed no end of downpipes for hondas and suzukis but few yamahas.

With the amount of people after new downpipes at the minute, me included, perhaps we could negotiate a discount for a group buy.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Pickle on 11 August 2015, 07:41:36 pm
look on this thread on 10th march, spokesT got his motad downpipes for £158
Add another £110 on to that.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: risticuss on 12 October 2015, 12:41:11 pm
Just a heads up to anyone after a set of MOTAD headers...


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-FZS600-FAZER-STAINLESS-MOTAD-DOWNPIPES-AND-COLLECTOR/161851938129?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D33840%26meid%3Db231cd6aa1d94eb980759093752fe8f1%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D351527121910 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-FZS600-FAZER-STAINLESS-MOTAD-DOWNPIPES-AND-COLLECTOR/161851938129?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D33840%26meid%3Db231cd6aa1d94eb980759093752fe8f1%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D351527121910)

Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: anutz on 12 October 2015, 01:30:52 pm
Where's the expert anutz on this matter? He done a complete rebuild and sure he'll have a good few pointers :)



only just saw this lol - sinto  :lol


did u get any where with them???


I ended up taking the head to an engine shop to drill out some studs lol - and then dismantled the bike - all is well now..
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Pickle on 12 October 2015, 05:53:13 pm
I paid £286 for mine delivered so that Ebay deal is a steal and they are the correct pipes with the balance tubes. A tad pissed off that they are now flogging them for £100 less than I paid!


Anutz, I eventually got mine off without taking the head off but it was several hours (circa 20!) of jerking about with extension drills and a Dremmel to get the sheared stud out and helicoiled. All good in the end and the new SS doonpips look the nuts.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: sinto on 12 October 2015, 06:23:51 pm
Where's the expert anutz on this matter? He done a complete rebuild and sure he'll have a good few pointers :)
only just saw this lol - sinto  :lol
Wow anutz, your replies are getting quicker :pokefun :lol
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: anutz on 12 October 2015, 07:25:02 pm
I paid £286 for mine delivered so that Ebay deal is a steal and they are the correct pipes with the balance tubes. A tad pissed off that they are now flogging them for £100 less than I paid!


Anutz, I eventually got mine off without taking the head off but it was several hours (circa 20!) of jerking about with extension drills and a Dremmel to get the sheared stud out and helicoiled. All good in the end and the new SS doonpips look the nuts.


Nice work, i suppose me spending 20 minutes thinking i would have em free is one reason i ended up in a right mess, on the plus side i now know the bike inside out....
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: anutz on 12 October 2015, 07:26:04 pm
Where's the expert anutz on this matter? He done a complete rebuild and sure he'll have a good few pointers :)
only just saw this lol - sinto  :lol
Wow anutz, your replies are getting quicker :pokefun :lol


Indeed they are Sinto, but not as fast as you on your red bike  :b ....
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: sinto on 12 October 2015, 08:02:16 pm
You know I comment on your truth :lol

Hope you've been enjoying your bike now it's all good for the road, apart from it being blue though :b
How's it been with all the stuff you done to it?
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: anutz on 12 October 2015, 08:16:35 pm
its still blue, but its been brill...


the new front springs and the R6 shock have made any sort of diving disappear and its confidence inspiring!


rattling that i introduced when i changed the cam chain tensioner gasket has just gone, so its sounds sweet even when cold....


so generally very happy with it, a second bolt check after i had been out a while back showed the cylinder head covers, side caps, one of them had a loose bolt that i can only assume was from the buzzing arounf at 7-9rpm all the time....but its been fine since i re-tightened it up...


And the new down pipes i added, well the just look nicer


Only thing i want to do is put some wider bars on it...


I saw your mountain bike thread, i just got mine back together, luckily no engine to mess up on that!


Anutz :)
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: sinto on 12 October 2015, 08:49:26 pm
its still blue, but its been brill...


the new front springs and the R6 shock have made any sort of diving disappear and its confidence inspiring!


rattling that i introduced when i changed the cam chain tensioner gasket has just gone, so its sounds sweet even when cold....


so generally very happy with it, a second bolt check after i had been out a while back showed the cylinder head covers, side caps, one of them had a loose bolt that i can only assume was from the buzzing arounf at 7-9rpm all the time....but its been fine since i re-tightened it up...


And the new down pipes i added, well the just look nicer


Only thing i want to do is put some wider bars on it...


I saw your mountain bike thread, i just got mine back together, luckily no engine to mess up on that!


Anutz :)
Well worth all the effort you put in :)
Yes you've got to check your nuts regularly didn't you know? :eek :lol
7-9k revs? Drop another gear and use the box :)
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: HJFazer on 02 February 2016, 01:15:30 pm
Hi All... and more specifically Pickle I think...


It has now come the time where I need to replace my original downpipes and rather than start a new thread I figured I'd message on here.


Pickle - what was the best price you got from Motad? I'll be calling next week but figured I should see what they offered you before i do.


Thanks

HJFazer
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Punkstig on 03 February 2016, 10:46:17 pm
They had a set on eBay last week for £160, give it 2 or 3 weeks and phone them directly saying you've seen them previously and do they have any at that price - you might be pleasantly surprised, or they'll so no!
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: HJFazer on 04 February 2016, 12:21:49 pm
Cheers Punkstig :)
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: risticuss on 08 February 2016, 03:51:12 pm
I managed to get mine on eBay for £185 which included gaskets and delivery.


You should be able to get them for something around that quite easily.


Oh, and if they sell you a badly welded. unpolished set, get on the phone and moan as that's what happened to me. e.g.


(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l109/risticuss/20160125_162503_zpsn2wwyui6.jpg) (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/risticuss/media/20160125_162503_zpsn2wwyui6.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: HJFazer on 08 February 2016, 05:20:13 pm
risticuss - are they motad? If so were they direct from Motad on eBay?
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Punkstig on 10 February 2016, 11:59:32 am
I'd guess they're Motad as they have the link pipes from 1-2 and 3-4, I don't think any other aftermarket exhaust has these
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: AdamC on 14 February 2016, 07:08:59 pm
I saw some Lextek downpipes at the MCN show today, £130 normally but on show offer at £115. No 1-2 & 3-4 link pipes but tempting price. Has anybody tried them?
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: fazersharp on 14 February 2016, 07:44:54 pm
I saw some Lextek downpipes at the MCN show today, £130 normally but on show offer at £115. No 1-2 & 3-4 link pipes but tempting price. Has anybody tried them?
Got a feeling they are Chinese -- good or bad - don't know, others would say cheep Chinese parts look the "the part" but thats as far as they go.
But like I said I dont know if they are Chinese, only done a quick google. 
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: bandit on 14 February 2016, 08:53:43 pm
I would say they are not Motad as I can't see the centre stand bracket that the stopper on on the stand hits.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: AdamC on 15 February 2016, 04:01:58 pm
I'm pretty certain they're Chinese, they're definitely Motad (who quoted me £305 at the show
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: AdamC on 15 February 2016, 04:08:18 pm
 :eek

So interested to hear any user feedback on the Lextek.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: AdamC on 15 February 2016, 04:10:37 pm
I'm pretty certain they're Chinese, they're definitely Motad (who quoted me £305 at the show

*not Motad
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: risticuss on 16 February 2016, 07:06:40 am
They were direct from Motad through eBay.
The centre stand bracket is on the link pipe by the way.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: bandit on 16 February 2016, 09:06:47 am
 :) Sorry risticuss,forgot the stand bracket was on the link pipe,when you put them on did you find the clamps that bolt to the head bend when tightened easily.   
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: risticuss on 16 February 2016, 01:30:42 pm
I did notice that, as well as the fact that they're quite a bit thicker and so I struggled to get the nuts on more than I should have.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: sc0ttie on 18 February 2016, 09:26:11 pm
Hi All... and more specifically Pickle I think...


It has now come the time where I need to replace my original downpipes and rather than start a new thread I figured I'd message on here.


Pickle - what was the best price you got from Motad? I'll be calling next week but figured I should see what they offered you before i do.


Thanks

HJFazer


Did you call and get that price? I think I may have to do this also but I wondered how you got on?
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Bimbam on 19 February 2016, 09:40:14 am
I see at lot of posts about this topic.
Why not buy the orginal downpipes?
My downpipes is from 1998 and are fine, so the quality must be ok. (not perfect)
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: fazersharp on 19 February 2016, 01:41:15 pm
I see at lot of posts about this topic.
Why not buy the orginal downpipes?
My downpipes is from 1998 and are fine, so the quality must be ok. (not perfect)

Are you sure!
I am a dry rider only "98" and just seen 3 or 4 pin prick holes in the collector area (same place as the OP ). Have a lay down and look underneath.
I think the rot mainly from the inside via condensation - water vaper.
But you are right no one ever talks about fitting standard OEM steel pipes which brings me to the question can you even get them and if so are stainless steel ones cheaper.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Bimbam on 19 February 2016, 04:01:10 pm
Now i checket and i have no holes. (lucky?) The bike has only gone 52.000 km.

I will check avability and price at the local Yamaha dealer.
But i dont expect answers i the weekend.
I will keep you posted  :)

Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: fatboy on 19 February 2016, 05:31:56 pm
Still available from Yamaha, bit pricey mind
https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/4165898/fzs600-fazer-5dm7-2000-070-b/exhaust (https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/4165898/fzs600-fazer-5dm7-2000-070-b/exhaust)
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: fatboy on 19 February 2016, 05:41:49 pm
Got a set on mine from sandy bike spares, been on about 4years.no problems so far.
Regards Adrian
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: fazersharp on 19 February 2016, 07:15:37 pm
Still available from Yamaha, bit pricey mind
https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/4165898/fzs600-fazer-5dm7-2000-070-b/exhaust (https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/4165898/fzs600-fazer-5dm7-2000-070-b/exhaust)

£761.63
excl. VAT
You are not wrong there
I wouldnt mind new standard ones if only they were cheaper than better quality stainless ones
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Bimbam on 19 February 2016, 09:19:54 pm
Now i got the price in Denmark = 1080 GBP. Auch  :o

Now i know why you want another.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Bimbam on 22 February 2016, 08:23:07 pm
Hi again  :)
Finally got the price on Micron downpipes. It is 470 GBP.
Anybody know The Micron downpipes?
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: risticuss on 23 February 2016, 11:19:42 am
I thought Micron had gone bust.

The thing that gets me about the second hand OEM downpipes that are sometimes up for sale on eBay, they're usually rusty as anything, and the sellers want £150 usually.  Might as well buy a stainless set for not much more, OEM or not.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: fazersharp on 23 February 2016, 01:03:21 pm
Even if they look good on the outside they may still be shot on the inside at the collector area, its a water trap there
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: sc0ttie on 23 February 2016, 06:02:47 pm
Even if they look good on the outside they may still be shot on the inside at the collecter area, its a water trap there


This is what has stopped me from buying any used from ebay, you just cant tell how the inside is, most of them look corroded on the outside anyway so an indication of the inside and miles they did already. I am getting a set of new Motad header pipes next month, I have had to do a temporary repair on my collector box for now as I have already got rear tyre and clutch to replace this month.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: bandit on 23 February 2016, 07:13:06 pm
Start soaking those header nuts with plusgas spray well before trying to remove them. Good luck. 
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Fergus on 24 February 2016, 08:18:15 am
Hi all, Just a quick heads up,
I saw Motad headers listed on ebay yestarday for £165.00, I rang Motad, who said they shouldn't be listed at that price....He looked up the ebay post and said  they would honour the listing and have shipped them to me for the quoted ebay price....
 
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Kentish on 30 May 2016, 01:58:01 pm
I have just found two holes in the underside of my downpipes! what are my best options? any ideas?

motads seem well over priced
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: fazersharp on 30 May 2016, 11:33:17 pm
I have just found two holes in the underside of my downpipes! what are my best options? any ideas?

motads seem well over priced

Yep here you go here are mine that I filled with gun-gum http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,19727.msg229518.html#msg229518 (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,19727.msg229518.html#msg229518)
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Kentish on 03 June 2016, 11:08:38 am
I have just found two holes in the underside of my downpipes! what are my best options? any ideas?

motads seem well over priced

Yep here you go here are mine that I filled with gun-gum [url]http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,19727.msg229518.html#msg229518[/url] ([url]http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,19727.msg229518.html#msg229518[/url])


Had my welded now....see how long they last!!
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Freza on 27 June 2016, 05:03:26 pm
Do you guys know of any good deal on some good downpipes that are wider than stock ones?
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Carter on 27 June 2016, 08:12:53 pm
Hi, just a heads up for people with pin holes or gaps in the welds on their collector or 2 into 1 pressings, you can mig these with ordinary wire . It's common practice in the trade to weld aluminised steel and/or stainless that way. All the systems are made to a price, (exotic materials obviously bump the price up) if it's a quick fix to pass an mot or repair a crack, anyone who can use a mig could help you. Ok, it'll go rusty after a while but it'll take a long time to rust through.
Just my thoughts on it really but if it's your pride and joy I wouldn't blame you for getting it done properly.
Title: Re: Downpipe choices
Post by: Freza on 28 June 2016, 03:07:26 pm
Anybody knows inner diameter of stock downpipes?

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