Author Topic: Downpipe choices (Read 33813 times)

Skippernick · « **Reply #25 on:** 22 April 2015, 10:23:33 pm »

Interesting thanks for that fazerider, bad luck though

unfazed · « **Reply #26 on:** 13 May 2015, 10:45:56 pm »

Interesting, about Delkevic, I just bought a set before seeing Fazeriders problems.

I have exactly the same issue of the downpipes not fitting on the 600. The 2 right hand pipes just will not fit in the head with the rear mounting tight and with the clamps tighten on the head the rear mount was 25mm away from the mounting and stuck up against the stand.

Wrote to Delkevic and they sent me a replacement set, spent 3 hours in the garage tonight and the new set have exactly the same problem, but this time the mounting is 18mm away. and touching the stand bolt. It is just the 2 right hand pipes again. There was to much strain when on the clamp bolts at the head when trying to pull the rear mount in and I am not going to risk foccing up the head bolts by forcing it.

The reason I bought them was that I have fitted them to other bikes without any problem and know a few with fazers who have fitted them without any problems.
I have written to them again and sent pictures this time.
Will keep you all posted

bandit · « **Reply #27 on:** 13 May 2015, 11:37:48 pm »

Refund & get some Motad ones.

unfazed · « **Reply #28 on:** 14 May 2015, 12:38:10 am »

That is the plan now, but I will wait to see what they say in the reply tomorrow first.

The quality is ok, but that foccing jig they are using to make them must be seriously misaligned

Jules-C · « **Reply #29 on:** 14 May 2015, 10:02:13 am »

Been waiting 5 weeks for new Motad downpipes after sending old set back for replacement under warranty, before sending them back they said they had FZS600 pipes in stock but by time it took the old pipes and they arranged courier to pick them up they had none left. Took a couple of weeks for them to make a new batch and then they found they had used the wrong head rings. New batch being made and should have a set next week.

Lucky I have car and access to other bikes or my 20 minute commute would've become a 1 hour 20 minute bus trip each way!

Fazerider · « **Reply #30 on:** 14 May 2015, 10:50:32 am »

Sorry to hear that, unfazed.

After I wrote to them initially Delkevic offered a replacement, but after another attempt at fitting them and getting a borderline satisfactory result I couldn't be bothered with organising an exchange and going through the fitting routine yet again. I also figured that since they're all bound to have been made on the one jig, they're all going to be pretty much the same anyway.
It's very disappointing that something priced at the top end of the pattern replacement market barely fits despite the flexibility allowed by the joints into the collector.

I just went out to take a couple of photos to give a clearer idea of what was necessary to make the pipes fit.

You an just about make out the extra nut needed as a spacer so the rear bracket doesn't get forced all the way over to the mounting point.

The downpipes were about 10mm from fully seated… and now I find that over the past couple of thousand miles the springs have pulled them almost all the way into the collector. Which probably explains why the thing sounds crap again: the leverage must have opened up slight gaps where the pipes clamp to the cylinder head.

I've just written to Delkevic again. I can't waste more time on finding new ways to bodge these onto the bike so I've asked for a refund.

Jules-C · « **Reply #31 on:** 14 May 2015, 12:16:27 pm »

No point trying a third set a you say since there is clearly a problem with their jig. Shame when you spend the time and effort trying to get them to fit twice with no success.

The Sandy Bike Spares ones don't have a bracket for bolting to the footrest bracket but they are one piece, with the springs holding the pipes into the collector it is an essential part of the set up that it is aligned correctly.

Did Delkevic use a crashed bike with bent frame to build their jig?

Fazer Forever · « **Reply #32 on:** 14 May 2015, 01:00:51 pm »

I've got Delkevic pipes and can, bought seperately. Had them a few years but don't remember the pipes in three pieces, and I certainly don't have the springs,
so maybe they've changed the design. No problems with fitting and are lasting well.

unfazed · « **Reply #33 on:** 14 May 2015, 05:39:08 pm »

Delkevic were back on to me and are going to check the ones I returned as the second set had the same problem and will let me know tomorrow.
I did suggest possible jig misalignment since one side is perfect.
I fitted a set to a fazer over 3 years ago and do not remember having any problems.

Inertia_v1 · « **Reply #34 on:** 18 May 2015, 06:11:15 pm »

has anybody tried the black widow exhausts on ebay?

Regards
Inertia

Ebme Geek · « **Reply #35 on:** 18 May 2015, 06:58:53 pm »

the shop on those is listed as "sandybikespares", not sure if these are what is refered to on here as sandy pipes and they have been re-branded.

I went with Motad when I changed mine, phoned them and quoted an ebay price, as others here have aswell.
Can't remember how long I have had them, but still happy

sinto · « **Reply #36 on:** 18 May 2015, 08:30:46 pm »

Quote from: Ebme Geek on 18 May 2015, 06:58:53 pm

the shop on those is listed as "sandybikespares", not sure if these are what is refered to on here as sandy pipes and they have been re-branded.

Exactly the same company my friend

Inertia_v1 · « **Reply #37 on:** 18 May 2015, 09:01:58 pm »

Are they a good choice? Im new here and to bike mods in general, from what I have seen they all seem to have there own issues?

Regards
Inertia

sinto · « **Reply #38 on:** 18 May 2015, 09:18:44 pm »

Welcome to the forum,
Go here http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/board,5.0.html and introduce yourself and where your from etc and post some pics of your bike (always a good start)

As far as exhaust pipes, it's all down to personal choice and wallet thickness

Presuming you've read all this thread (but there's loads more in this forum) you'll see there is problems with all aftermarket systems, it's just down to reading up and making your choice.

And of course adding a silencer comes with even more choices

Only thing that is common throughout the threads is get stainless steel

And this will make interesting reading BEFORE you attempt to take the pipes off.
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,16432.0.html

Inertia_v1 · « **Reply #39 on:** 18 May 2015, 10:11:51 pm »

At the moment it's garaged with the engine out, broken shift shaft

sinto · « **Reply #40 on:** 18 May 2015, 10:15:10 pm »

Quote from: Inertia_v1 on 18 May 2015, 10:11:51 pm

At the moment it's garaged with the engine out, broken shift shaft

You'll find help on that I'm sure if you use the search function

Inertia_v1 · « **Reply #41 on:** 18 May 2015, 10:15:29 pm »

At the moment it's garaged with the engine out, broken shift shaft.
The previous owner did a lot with it, but I'm intending to keep the project running, so I figure replacing the downpipes while fitting the new engine seems to be the right time

Inertia_v1 · « **Reply #42 on:** 18 May 2015, 10:18:29 pm »

My phones smileys seem to be cutting my posts short lol

anutz · « **Reply #43 on:** 18 May 2015, 10:22:09 pm »

I currently have a spare engine i am cleaning up and one task it to get the engine studs replaced with stainless steel - will be updating as i go....not something you will probably want to mess with - but its a spare so i figured why not - plan it so swap it in during winter

http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,17020.0.html

Inertia_v1 · « **Reply #44 on:** 18 May 2015, 10:22:20 pm »

Yeah I have been reading a lot about this issue, I was going to try and fix it myself but I came across an engine for a good price so I opted for that solution. The old one can become a separate project at a later time

sinto · « **Reply #45 on:** 18 May 2015, 10:26:41 pm »

http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,17020.0.html

anutz's follow up on his spare engine

No point me doing that ^^^^^^^ if anutz already put it there

sinto · « **Reply #46 on:** 18 May 2015, 10:28:37 pm »

Quote from: Inertia_v1 on 18 May 2015, 10:18:29 pm

My phones smileys seem to be cutting my posts short lol

Yeah it does that, you have to use emicons or whatever they're called
Took me ages to figure that out!

Inertia_v1 · « **Reply #47 on:** 18 May 2015, 10:39:42 pm »

Cool thanks that will be a nice one to follow

sinto · « **Reply #48 on:** 18 May 2015, 10:41:37 pm »

Quote from: Inertia_v1 on 18 May 2015, 10:39:42 pm

Cool thanks that will be a nice one to follow

anutz is actually an under cover mechanic kidding on he works in an office

Inertia_v1 · « **Reply #49 on:** 18 May 2015, 10:45:25 pm »

We all like to have a little tinkle from time to time lol