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Political correctness, wokeness, justified or something else - BBROWN1664 - 29-01-25
We all know the world has gone mad over recent years with person A being banned because Person C got upset over a comment Person A made to Person B - Person B wasn't even worried about the comment and was far from upset.
Show we worry about it or not?
The latest one in the news is the Go Compare bloke, Wynne Evans, who allegedly made a remark to one of the other male dancers about a female dancer who was between them. A bit of googling will tell you what he said and personally i suspect the female dancer may have even taken what was said as a compliment but someone got upset on her behalf and now Wynne has been binned.
Do we need to take a step back and stop getting so upset about everything or am i stuck in the dark ages?
RE: Political correctness, wokeness, justified or something else - agricola - 29-01-25
Yes, we need to take a step back. Political correctness, gender bending, quotas etc, its corrupted the nation. I think its appalling that schools now provide breakfasts for children, change their nappies because parents cant be arsed to teach them toilet training or wash and feed them. Sadly, I think thats the tip of the iceberg, the present govt seems to have a significant number of members prepared to cater for such schemes.
RE: Political correctness, wokeness, justified or something else - Grahamm - 29-01-25
If you don't recall, last year, there were allegations of bullying, inappropriate physical contact, verbal abuse and a "toxic culture" permeating Strictly.
Anyone appearing on it could hardly NOT be aware of this and should have thought twice before making comments like the ones he was recorded making.
But, of course, too many people just want to blame this on "wokeness" or "political correctness" and use it to justify their own bigoted behaviour towards anyone who is in the slightest bit different.
RE: Political correctness, wokeness, justified or something else - BBROWN1664 - 29-01-25
(29-01-25, 05:22 PM)Grahamm Wrote: should have thought twice before making comments like the ones he was recorded making.
Having read what Wynne said, he should have kept his mouth shut in my opinion to save himself from himself and others. That said, did the dancer get offended or was it someone being offended on her behalf thats caused the problem for him?
If it was the dancer then ok. If it was someone else, then that person needs to think about it again IMHO
RE: Political correctness, wokeness, justified or something else - agricola - 29-01-25
(29-01-25, 05:22 PM)Grahamm Wrote: If you don't recall, last year, there were allegations of bullying, inappropriate physical contact, verbal abuse and a "toxic culture" permeating Strictly.
Anyone appearing on it could hardly NOT be aware of this and should have thought twice before making comments like the ones he was recorded making.
But, of course, too many people just want to blame this on "wokeness" or "political correctness" and use it to justify their own bigoted behaviour towards anyone who is in the slightest bit different.
TV programmes like Come Dancing tend to be populated with "sensitive" types, likely to be involved with the general TV culture and easily set off. I, and others like me, started in the local steel works and continued thhroughout life mixing with ordinary hard working folk who called a spade a spade, new right from wrong, and had a certain amount of appreciation of their nation and its history. I pay little attention to the attention seeking, narcissistic, surgically enhanced, so called celebrity culture sadly dominating everyday life.
Storm in tea cup
RE: Political correctness, wokeness, justified or something else - Grahamm - 30-01-25
"I believe in plain speaking", so often the excuse of someone who doesn't understand that it's really just plain rudeness.
RE: Political correctness, wokeness, justified or something else - Grahamm - 30-01-25
Here's someone else who thinks they're just "plain speaking"...
Over 60 people have just died in the collision between a passenger plane and a military helicopter and Trump is using this tragedy to attack his predecessors and "DEI".
Talk about clueless and uncaring, those people had families!
Donald Trump Blames Obama, Biden, DEI for DC Plane Crash
RE: Political correctness, wokeness, justified or something else - BBROWN1664 - 31-01-25
Trump is a tw@t though with little/no common sense
RE: Political correctness, wokeness, justified or something else - unfazed - 31-01-25
Speaking of the Idiot with "No Common Sense", he did this last Tuesday
Members of the Aviation Security Advisory Committee received a memo Tuesday saying that the department is eliminating the membership of all advisory committees as part of a “commitment to eliminating the misuse of resources and ensuring that DHS activities prioritize our national security.”
The aviation security committee, which was mandated by Congress after the 1988 PanAm 103 bombing over Lockerbie, Scotland, will technically continue to exist but it won’t have any members to carry out the work of examining safety issues at airlines and airports. Before Tuesday, the group included representatives of all the key groups in the industry — including the airlines and major unions — as well as members of a group associated with the victims of the PanAm 103 bombing. The vast majority of the group’s recommendations were adopted over the years.
RE: Political correctness, wokeness, justified or something else - darrsi - 15-02-25
(30-01-25, 12:23 AM)Grahamm Wrote: "I believe in plain speaking", so often the excuse of someone who doesn't understand that it's really just plain rudeness.
On the flip side, being offended by somebody speaking their mind, commonly known as "having their own personal opinion" could also be considered as being quite rude! It's the equivalent of trying to dominate a conversation by not letting the other person have their fair say, which in turn is basically what this post is about.
If someone else's opinion constantly has the ability to frazzle your mind that's not the other persons fault, unless they are quite obviously being blatantly offensive to you, to the point of picking a verbal fight.
Also known as banter, it's about having a bit of equal give and take, rather than crying about it every time something or someone else displeases your own point of view or agenda.
RE: Political correctness, wokeness, justified or something else - Grahamm - 15-02-25
(15-02-25, 08:41 AM)darrsi Wrote: Also known as banter, it's about having a bit of equal give and take,
Except it's rarely "equal give and take", it's someone with power punching down.
Rather like those bullies at school who, when caught by the teacher, whined "Oh Sir, we were just having a bit of a laugh..."
Oddly, I was never the one laughing.
RE: Political correctness, wokeness, justified or something else - darrsi - 15-02-25
(15-02-25, 01:20 PM)Grahamm Wrote:(15-02-25, 08:41 AM)darrsi Wrote: Also known as banter, it's about having a bit of equal give and take,
Except it's rarely "equal give and take", it's someone with power punching down.
Rather like those bullies at school who, when caught by the teacher, whined "Oh Sir, we were just having a bit of a laugh..."
Oddly, I was never the one laughing.
Bullying is a different kettle of fish though, on a different level, and not what this post is about.
This is more about people that not only get offended by the slightest thing, but make a point of being loud in their uncalled for response so that they get the attention that THEY so obviously want and desperately crave.
RE: Political correctness, wokeness, justified or something else - BBROWN1664 - 15-02-25
(15-02-25, 01:53 PM)darrsi Wrote: This is more about people that not only get offended by the slightest thing, but make a point of being loud in their uncalled for response so that they get the attention that THEY so obviously want and desperately crave.
Its also about people getting offended on behalf of someone else when. Especially when the someone else (often) wasn't even offended.
RE: Political correctness, wokeness, justified or something else - darrsi - 15-02-25
(15-02-25, 02:55 PM)BBROWN1664 Wrote:I was chatting with people at work the other day about how a lot of films, especially on TV, have had scenes cut out or altered due to this sort of thing. Worse still some are simply not even shown on telly any more.(15-02-25, 01:53 PM)darrsi Wrote: This is more about people that not only get offended by the slightest thing, but make a point of being loud in their uncalled for response so that they get the attention that THEY so obviously want and desperately crave.
Its also about people getting offended on behalf of someone else when. Especially when the someone else (often) wasn't even offended.
I find that offensive!
RE: Political correctness, wokeness, justified or something else - agricola - 15-02-25
(30-01-25, 12:23 AM)Grahamm Wrote: "I believe in plain speaking", so often the excuse of someone who doesn't understand that it's really just plain rudeness.
You are so wrong. Here's a great example of someone speaking plainly and not being cowed. Was she being rude when she quite plainly told her employer he was jeopardizing patient safety?
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/other/letby-hospital-forced-whistleblower-out-of-her-job-tribunal-rules/ar-AA1z7rhZ?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=ac73ab6359dc4560a0b03bf219585532&ei=23
RE: Political correctness, wokeness, justified or something else - Grahamm - 16-02-25
(15-02-25, 01:53 PM)darrsi Wrote: Bullying is a different kettle of fish though, on a different level, and not what this post is about.
This is more about people that not only get offended by the slightest thing, but make a point of being loud in their uncalled for response so that they get the attention that THEY so obviously want and desperately crave.
When someone who has a position of power, be it political authority, a wide audience afforded to them by the media or simply popularity, uses that position to behave in a way that negatively affects a group that doesn't share the same things, that is not "banter", that is punching down, aka bullying, aka not picking on someone your own size.
Of course they are also the ones who then complain about "people being offended by the slightest thing" (ie they don't like their opinions being called to account) and claiming (vociferously and repeatedly to their wide audience!) that they are "being cancelled"!
Still, gets them attention, doesn't it...?!
(15-02-25, 08:48 PM)agricola Wrote:(30-01-25, 12:23 AM)Grahamm Wrote: "I believe in plain speaking", so often the excuse of someone who doesn't understand that it's really just plain rudeness.
You are so wrong.
You are comparing apples and oranges.
RE: Political correctness, wokeness, justified or something else - b1k3rdude - 17-02-25
I haven't watched terrestial TV in over 10 years, as most of it is trash-tier programming, SCD is case in point. And I have zero patience for Woke idology, DEI or anthing that results in chilling of free speach. The computer games ind. is in freefall atm, as game puplishers are learning the hardway that thier customer base wont be dictated to. So @the OP, no fella your not alone.
RE: Political correctness, wokeness, justified or something else - Grahamm - 17-02-25
It's ironic, we constantly hear that it's "Woke idology, DEI or anthing that results in chilling of free speach" from the political right, yet it's the political right that are the ones actually doing it!
From Reporters Sans Frontiers:
USA: Trump’s vision of “free speech” comes at the expense of press freedom
RE: Political correctness, wokeness, justified or something else - b1k3rdude - 17-02-25
Agent orange et al, are sociopathic psychopath's, that one could reasonably comment, don't necessarily have a political leaning in the traditional sense. In other words, are extreme outliers that don’t follow excepted societal norms.
RE: Political correctness, wokeness, justified or something else - fazersharp - 19-02-25
(16-02-25, 10:52 PM)Grahamm Wrote: When someone who has a position of power, be it political authority,Or a motorbike forum lets say with over zealous moderators who are the gate keepers to a conversation that edit/ban those who do not share their political and social views, then watch as the forum slowly dies a death from over modding.