2000 Fazer 600 not starting - Printable Version

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2000 Fazer 600 not starting - jonr1x - 09-12-22

Hi all, I've got a 2000 Fazer 600 that won't start. I bought the bike about 3 or 4 weeks ago and on two occasions it wouldn't start without being bumped. Every other time it starts first push of the button. Now it will start first time but then cut out and won't start again. I've checked the battery and that seems fine. Are there any common things that a non mechanical person can check relatively easily? Thanks.

Re: 2000 Fazer 600 not starting - darrsi - 09-12-22

That's a very open ended question, there are so many possibilities of why it might not start consistently?

How exactly did you check the battery?
You need to put a meter on the terminals and let us know the readings with engine off, ticking over, and slightly revving, to try and see what condition the battery might be in? (when it does start obviously)
Make sure you have the headlights switched off when trying to start the engine, because they will zap your battery for power if it's not in good working condition.

Sounds daft, but I would lift the tank and firstly make sure the fuel tap is switched fully on, and then check that the fuel pipe coming from the tank isn't kinked in any way restricting fuel flow, especially when you rest the tank back down again.

New set of spark plugs never hurts, especially if you don't know the history of the bike, and a similar case can be made for the air filter (and fuel filter).

When trying to start the bike, hold the clutch in, to separate the clutch plates. If this helps then maybe an oil change wouldn't go amiss either.

Re: 2000 Fazer 600 not starting - unfazed - 09-12-22

does the engine turn over when you press the start button?

Re: 2000 Fazer 600 not starting - Grahamm - 09-12-22

I'd check the continuity on the kill switch/ side stand cut out switch and, if necessary, strip them down and clean them.

Re: 2000 Fazer 600 not starting - darrsi - 10-12-22

When trying to start is it backfiring at all?

I had starting issues years ago, especially in cold/damp weather, and it took me ages to resolve it which included swapping electrical parts through a process of elimination.
Then one day i read something about the ignition system and used electronic contact cleaner spray in the ignition barrel (where the the key goes) and gave it a good saturating whilst moving the key about at the same time and it never played up after that. There's quite a few contacts in the ignition barrel and over a long time of hot, cold, wet, dry weather moisture and dirt can clog up the barrel causing bad connections. I still clean it occasionally even now, and have also made a little cap/cover to go over the ignition barrel to stop dirty rain getting into it when it's parked up outside at work. Very simple but effective.

Re: 2000 Fazer 600 not starting - darrsi - 10-12-22

Here's an old post of mine which might be worth you reading too.

https://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=20471.0

Re: 2000 Fazer 600 not starting - darrsi - 10-12-22

Add to that last post, i notice that the Starter Solenoid was mentioned a few times. (and so was cleaning the ignition barrel with contact cleaner)

https://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=26685.msg322808#msg322808

Little bit fiddly to replace from memory, but i managed it so it can't be that bad.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=starter+solenoid+fzs+600&_sacat=0

Re: 2000 Fazer 600 not starting - darrsi - 10-12-22

(09-12-22, 10:22 PM)Grahamm link Wrote: I'd check the continuity on the kill switch/ side stand cut out switch and, if necessary, strip them down and clean them.

That side stand switch is in a very bad place to access, which is why i bypassed mine many years ago during my elimination process stages.
In fact i still think i have a brand new one somewhere which i would have gladly fitted if it wasn't such a ball ache to do. It's never been a problem without it and it passes the MOT okay so not really a big deal to me, although you're better off having it functioning than not in fairness.

Re: 2000 Fazer 600 not starting - Grahamm - 10-12-22

(10-12-22, 07:21 AM)darrsi link Wrote: That side stand switch is in a very bad place to access,

Ah, fair enough.

They obviously fixed that issue on the FZ6.

Re: 2000 Fazer 600 not starting - agricola - 10-12-22

(10-12-22, 07:21 AM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=Grahamm link=topic=27572.msg330839#msg330839 date=1670620971]
I'd check the continuity on the kill switch/ side stand cut out switch and, if necessary, strip them down and clean them.

Re: 2000 Fazer 600 not starting - darrsi - 10-12-22

(10-12-22, 12:22 PM)agricola link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=27572.msg330843#msg330843 date=1670653278]
[quote author=Grahamm link=topic=27572.msg330839#msg330839 date=1670620971]
I'd check the continuity on the kill switch/ side stand cut out switch and, if necessary, strip them down and clean them.

Re: 2000 Fazer 600 not starting - darrsi - 10-12-22

(10-12-22, 11:45 AM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=27572.msg330843#msg330843 date=1670653278]
That side stand switch is in a very bad place to access,

Ah, fair enough.

They obviously fixed that issue on the FZ6.
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From memory, with the bike on the floor you just can't get near it.
Maybe easier on a raised platform?

Re: 2000 Fazer 600 not starting - jonr1x - 10-12-22

Thanks for all the replies, it's much appreciated. Tried starting the bike yesterday and she started then immediately cut out. Tested the battery off, running and after running for a while and it's ok. Later on same day tried starting her again and she started with a lot of revs. I'll look at the side stand switch and kill switch and try the starter motor too and the ignition barrel as that is getting a bit stiff and clunky. I'll also check the fuel tap and line under the tank. Again thanks a lot and hopefully I'll get it sorted.

Re: 2000 Fazer 600 not starting - darrsi - 10-12-22

(10-12-22, 07:34 PM)jonr1x link Wrote: Thanks for all the replies, it's much appreciated. Tried starting the bike yesterday and she started then immediately cut out. Tested the battery off, running and after running for a while and it's ok. Later on same day tried starting her again and she started with a lot of revs. I'll look at the side stand switch and kill switch and try the starter motor too and the ignition barrel as that is getting a bit stiff and clunky. I'll also check the fuel tap and line under the tank. Again thanks a lot and hopefully I'll get it sorted.

Side stand switch can easily be "tested" by putting the bike on the centre stand instead and see if it still misbehaves with the side stand up.

Re: 2000 Fazer 600 not starting - midden - 11-12-22

(10-12-22, 08:18 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=jonr1x link=topic=27572.msg330854#msg330854 date=1670697295]
Thanks for all the replies, it's much appreciated. Tried starting the bike yesterday and she started then immediately cut out. Tested the battery off, running and after running for a while and it's ok. Later on same day tried starting her again and she started with a lot of revs. I'll look at the side stand switch and kill switch and try the starter motor too and the ignition barrel as that is getting a bit stiff and clunky. I'll also check the fuel tap and line under the tank. Again thanks a lot and hopefully I'll get it sorted.

Side stand switch can easily be "tested" by putting the bike on the centre stand instead and see if it still misbehaves with the side stand up.
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use a screwdriver to push the pin out

Re: 2000 Fazer 600 not starting - unfazed - 11-12-22

(10-12-22, 07:34 PM)jonr1x link Wrote: Thanks for all the replies, it's much appreciated. Tried starting the bike yesterday and she started then immediately cut out. Tested the battery off, running and after running for a while and it's ok. Later on same day tried starting her again and she started with a lot of revs. I'll look at the side stand switch and kill switch and try the starter motor too and the ignition barrel as that is getting a bit stiff and clunky. I'll also check the fuel tap and line under the tank. Again thanks a lot and hopefully I'll get it sorted.

That description sounds very like partially blocked pilot jet or jets.