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Suspended sentence - really? - BBROWN1664 - 26-10-22
Shame plod didn't nudge it earlier - the suspended sentence means nothing as the scrotes will take no notice of that.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-hampshire-63396667
[Edited to fix the tiny font: GrahamM]
Re: Suspended sentence - really? - agricola - 27-10-22
No licence, likely stolen machine, so no tax, no insurance, no mot, possibly a drug runner.
Re: Suspended sentence - really? - b1k3rdude - 27-10-22
Indeed, and it was barely a nudge at that. They need some broken bones to make sure it sinks in so they think twice next time.
Re: Suspended sentence - really? - Grahamm - 27-10-22
(27-10-22, 10:28 AM)b1k3rdude link Wrote: They need some broken bones to make sure it sinks in so they think twice next time.
Great idea! Why not give them a belt on the head with a truncheon whilst you're at it...
Re: Suspended sentence - really? - robbo - 27-10-22
(27-10-22, 11:42 AM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=b1k3rdude link=topic=27537.msg330540#msg330540 date=1666862881]
They need some broken bones to make sure it sinks in so they think twice next time.
Great idea! Why not give them a belt on the head with a truncheon whilst you're at it...
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(27-10-22, 11:42 AM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=b1k3rdude link=topic=27537.msg330540#msg330540 date=1666862881]
They need some broken bones to make sure it sinks in so they think twice next time.
Great idea! Why not give them a belt on the head with a truncheon whilst you're at it...
[/quote]That's what's needed. They'll more than likely get their scooter resprayed in rainbow stripes and be given front row tickets for the cops next performance of the macarena.[/quote]
Re: Suspended sentence - really? - agricola - 27-10-22
(27-10-22, 11:42 AM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=b1k3rdude link=topic=27537.msg330540#msg330540 date=1666862881]
They need some broken bones to make sure it sinks in so they think twice next time.
Great idea! Why not give them a belt on the head with a truncheon whilst you're at it...
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Oh absolutely yes.
Likely as not, a lifetime on benefits beckons, interspersed with occasional interactions with the criminal justice system, further draining the public purse
Re: Suspended sentence - really? - Grahamm - 27-10-22
(27-10-22, 04:38 PM)agricola link Wrote: Likely as not, a lifetime on benefits beckons, interspersed with occasional interactions with the criminal justice system, further draining the public purse
And if we privatise the NHS they'll have to pay for their treatment too!
(For more details, see the Daily Mail...)
Re: Suspended sentence - really? - BBROWN1664 - 27-10-22
(27-10-22, 11:42 AM)Grahamm link Wrote: Great idea! Why not give them a belt on the head with a truncheon whilst you're at it...
Now you mention it :pokefun
Seriously though, some of the scrotes do deserve a good tw@ting to remind them not to do it again sometimes. Suspended sentences are just an inconvenience (that they had to get up early or leave the pub to go to court) as it does nothing.
Re: Suspended sentence - really? - b1k3rdude - 27-10-22
(27-10-22, 11:42 AM)Grahamm link Wrote: Great idea! Why not give them a belt on the head with a truncheon whilst you're at it...Were these little f***s to stop when instructed to by the police, there would be no need to knock off now would there...
I have zero empathy or sympathy in instance, these are the type of meatsacks that attack people with hammers or worse acid. A broken leg or arm, is something you recover from, a hammer to the head or acid in the face is not.
Re: Suspended sentence - really? - Grahamm - 27-10-22
(27-10-22, 10:43 PM)b1k3rdude link Wrote: Were these little f***s to stop when instructed to by the police, there would be no need to knock off now would there...
Well, why not just authorise the Police to shoot them then?
(These and other such great ideas can be found in the pages of the Judge Dredd comic...)
Quote:I have zero empathy or sympathy in instance, these are the type of meatsacks that attack people with hammers or worse acid. A broken leg or arm, is something you recover from, a hammer to the head or acid in the face is not.
Ah, the presumption of guilt as a justification for "assertive policing". Another great idea (that worked so well for George Floyd...)
Re: Suspended sentence - really? - b1k3rdude - 28-10-22
Im not a fan of the police by any stretch, I have been abused (physically and otherwidse) by them or more than one occasion. But regarding these scrotes and your presumption of guilt in relation to them, the fact they DONT pull over and put other peopls lives in danger while they are at it, means I have no problem with the police using tacktical contact to force them to stop, period.
On a related note everytime and I mean EVERYTIME I have seen 2 guys on a scooter, in London, they are always & clearly upto no good. The give away signs are trainers, no protective gear (beyond the crash helmet), tracksuit bottoms, the list goes on. The aformentioned then coupled with them staring at you, looking around like they are being followed and riding in a manor that means you need to GTFO away from them or the situation.
What the mayor of London should be doing instead of creating B$ schemes like ULEZ, changing the speed limit to 20 on A-roads, is give the Police more money to fund things like Operation Venice.
Re: Suspended sentence - really? - BBROWN1664 - 28-10-22
(27-10-22, 11:49 PM)Grahamm link Wrote: Ah, the presumption of guilt as a justification for "assertive policing". Another great idea (that worked so well for George Floyd...)
If you were innocent, would you fail to stop? No - they were guilty of something which is why they didnt want to stop.
Re: Suspended sentence - really? - b1k3rdude - 28-10-22
Also on the subject of George Lloyd (GL), while tragic it cant be compared. Different country and while there is some predudice and racisim in the met, they are no where near the same level as the popo in the US. And lastly that thug and his buddies involved in the death of GL, all got sent to prison. When british cops cause wrongfull death they need to get sent down also, but due to the broken system that we have that is not happening nearly enough.
Re: Suspended sentence - really? - Grahamm - 28-10-22
(28-10-22, 08:56 AM)BBROWN1664 link Wrote: If you were innocent, would you fail to stop?
Have you ever been stopped for being "suspiciously black"? No...?
Time for the classic Constable Savage sketch again...
Re: Suspended sentence - really? - BBROWN1664 - 28-10-22
(28-10-22, 04:19 PM)Grahamm link Wrote: Have you ever been stopped for being "suspiciously black"? No...?
Time for the classic Constable Savage sketch again...
I have been stopped and even arrested for things I have not done. One thing I didn't do was run though as I knew I had nothing to hide and had done nothing wrong.
Re: Suspended sentence - really? - robbo - 28-10-22
It’s quite simple. If the cops say stop. Stop……….unless of course you’ve got something to hide.
Re: Suspended sentence - really? - Grahamm - 28-10-22
(28-10-22, 08:13 PM)BBROWN1664 link Wrote: I have been stopped and even arrested for things I have not done. One thing I didn't do was run though as I knew I had nothing to hide and had done nothing wrong.
I'm glad you are secure enough in your privilege...
The 2019/20 data indicates that Black people were about 5.7 times more likely to have force used on them than White people. The data further shows that officers were more than nine times as likely to have drawn Tasers (but not discharged them) on Black people than on White people. Additionally, Black people were eight times more likely to be ‘compliant handcuffed’ than White people and over three times more likely to have a spit and bite guard used on them than White people.
Report from HM Inspector of Constabulary
https://www.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/hmicfrs/wp-content/uploads/disproportionate-use-of-police-powers-spotlight-on-stop-search-and-use-of-force.pdf
Re: Suspended sentence - really? - Grahamm - 28-10-22
(28-10-22, 09:16 PM)robbo link Wrote: It’s quite simple. If the cops say stop. Stop……….unless of course you’ve got something to hide.
Try telling that to the People who campaigned for Civil Rights in the USA.
It's quite simple: if the Police are liable to give you a belt around the head with a truncheon or (these days) zap you with a Taser if you don't do what they say, not only are you extremely naive and trusting, you're also jeopardising the privacy, safety and civil rights of everyone else by justifying the authorities stopping anyone they want "just in case" they might have something to hide..
Re: Suspended sentence - really? - darrsi - 29-10-22
(28-10-22, 11:08 PM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=BBROWN1664 link=topic=27537.msg330554#msg330554 date=1666984411]
I have been stopped and even arrested for things I have not done. One thing I didn't do was run though as I knew I had nothing to hide and had done nothing wrong.
I'm glad you are secure enough in your privilege...
The 2019/20 data indicates that Black people were about 5.7 times more likely to have force used on them than White people. The data further shows that officers were more than nine times as likely to have drawn Tasers (but not discharged them) on Black people than on White people. Additionally, Black people were eight times more likely to be ‘compliant handcuffed’ than White people and over three times more likely to have a spit and bite guard used on them than White people.
Report from HM Inspector of Constabulary
https://www.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/hmicfrs/wp-content/uploads/disproportionate-use-of-police-powers-spotlight-on-stop-search-and-use-of-force.pdf
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"....The 2019/20 data indicates that Black people were about 5.7 times more likely to have force used on them than White people...."
Yeah, but you can't deny that they do have a tendency to resist more, be uncooperative, bad mannered, or simply try and do the off.
I have friends who are police officers, and they tell me exactly the same thing. They have nothing to prove or any reason to lie to me, it's just the way things are.
Get rid of the massive chip on your shoulder, cooperate in a polite manner, and stop scarpering even when you're innocent, and the future could be a lot easier and brighter for everyone, but i can't see that happening anytime soon when some people have an instant disrespect for a person in uniform.
Re: Suspended sentence - really? - darrsi - 29-10-22
(28-10-22, 11:08 PM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=BBROWN1664 link=topic=27537.msg330554#msg330554 date=1666984411]
I have been stopped and even arrested for things I have not done. One thing I didn't do was run though as I knew I had nothing to hide and had done nothing wrong.
I'm glad you are secure enough in your privilege...
The 2019/20 data indicates that Black people were about 5.7 times more likely to have force used on them than White people. The data further shows that officers were more than nine times as likely to have drawn Tasers (but not discharged them) on Black people than on White people. Additionally, Black people were eight times more likely to be ‘compliant handcuffed’ than White people and over three times more likely to have a spit and bite guard used on them than White people.
Report from HM Inspector of Constabulary
https://www.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/hmicfrs/wp-content/uploads/disproportionate-use-of-police-powers-spotlight-on-stop-search-and-use-of-force.pdf
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Privilege? What a ridiculous thing to say?
And irrespective of your link, the police force, especially the Met, are so woke right now that they're scared to let their officers do their job properly without fear of some sort of reprisal, normally by the repulsive media.
Like all these idiot protesters sitting in the roads of London. How on earth is that not wilful obstruction and a breach of the peace, yet the police are hardly on rapid response to remove them to let Londoners get on with their daily life without any more hinderance. Life is tough enough right now so we really don't need brainless morons upsetting everyone, because that is all that they're doing, they are not gaining any support by the decent general public whatsoever.