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E10 Petrol - Sannox - 22-06-21
Hi all, hope the weather is treating everyone fine. Reading in the news about new fuel ethanol mix that's coming to a forecourt near you soon. I'm assuming that the Fazers will be fine on the mix, however, hmmmm not 100% sure and can't find any official notice to say all ok, plus, never assume anything! Any thoughts?
Re: E10 Petrol - robbo - 22-06-21
Have a look at the thread on this subject in the General section. That might answer some questions.
Re: E10 Petrol - BBROWN1664 - 23-06-21
:agree
E10 is meant to be OK in all fazer models.
Re: E10 Petrol - Jules-C - 25-06-21
https://www.gov.uk/check-vehicle-e10-petrol
Yamaha
All Yamaha models from Model Year 1990 are compatible with E10.
Checking for my wife's Honda it comes up with the additional comments about cold weather conditions presumably an increased risk of carb icing.
Honda
E10 petrol is cleared for use in all European models with petrol engines equipped with electronic control fuel injection system (HONDA PGM-FI).
All Honda motorcycles and mopeds produced for the EU market since 1993 can use ethanol-blended gasoline up to 10% although carburettor-equipped models could experience poor driveability in cold weather conditions.
Re: E10 Petrol - robbo - 25-06-21
Well I'll be avoiding like the plague, until someone else has used it for a year and reports no problems. At present I'd rather take notice of Red Ceri's unfortunate experience, and give it a miss.
Re: E10 Petrol - Trebus - 25-06-21
It will just be another excuse to raise the price of the
‘E5 good stuff’ which incidentally is shit compared with the pre ethanol days.
Also note that pump prices are essentially at an all time UK high at £1.30 per litre. The last time pump prices were comparable in 2014, oil then was $120 a barrel. Today it is $75.
E10 foc u.
Re: E10 Petrol - darrsi - 26-06-21
(25-06-21, 10:47 PM)Trebus link Wrote: It will just be another excuse to raise the price of the
‘E5 good stuff’ which incidentally is shit compared with the pre ethanol days.
Also note that pump prices are essentially at an all time UK high at £1.30 per litre. The last time pump prices were comparable in 2014, oil then was $120 a barrel. Today it is $75.
E10 foc u.
As I mentioned in the other post, ESSO Supreme 99 has ZERO ethanol in it, but due to legalities the pump has to display an E5 sticker as it actually stands for "up to 5% ethanol".
Re: E10 Petrol - Trebus - 26-06-21
Yep, I’m aware of that option but thanks for mentioning.
Re: E10 Petrol - StreetFzr - 18-09-21
It’s easy enough to remove the ethanol from the petrol if you want to, there’s a guide on eBay but it’s basically done by adding water to the petrol in a clear bottle (use food colourant to identify easier) and then siphoning the remaining clear petrol off
Re: E10 Petrol - darrsi - 19-09-21
I seriously don't give a monkeys what anyone suggests, but if you like your bike to run like a dream, choose ESSO 99, more so if it's a toy or you do short runs.
Unquestionably better, without a doubt!
Re: E10 Petrol - StreetFzr - 21-09-21
Tbf I’ve been using Tesco ultimate as it’s still e5 and 99 Ron and it’s definitely running better with it, don’t know where my local wasp that’s has 99 or I’d try that ??
Re: E10 Petrol - StreetFzr - 25-09-21
(26-06-21, 03:16 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=Trebus link=topic=26996.msg326268#msg326268 date=1624657637]
It will just be another excuse to raise the price of the
‘E5 good stuff’ which incidentally is shit compared with the pre ethanol days.
Also note that pump prices are essentially at an all time UK high at £1.30 per litre. The last time pump prices were comparable in 2014, oil then was $120 a barrel. Today it is $75.
E10 foc u.
As I mentioned in the other post, ESSO Supreme 99 has ZERO ethanol in it, but due to legalities the pump has to display an E5 sticker as it actually stands for "up to 5% ethanol".
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This is only true for the south of England as in North England, Scotland, Wales, Cornwall and NI it does contain ethanol due to ‘technical supply reasons’ as quoted on their website
Re: E10 Petrol - darrsi - 28-09-21
(25-09-21, 10:50 PM)StreetFzr link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=26996.msg326271#msg326271 date=1624717007]
[quote author=Trebus link=topic=26996.msg326268#msg326268 date=1624657637]
It will just be another excuse to raise the price of the
‘E5 good stuff’ which incidentally is shit compared with the pre ethanol days.
Also note that pump prices are essentially at an all time UK high at £1.30 per litre. The last time pump prices were comparable in 2014, oil then was $120 a barrel. Today it is $75.
E10 foc u.
As I mentioned in the other post, ESSO Supreme 99 has ZERO ethanol in it, but due to legalities the pump has to display an E5 sticker as it actually stands for "up to 5% ethanol".
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This is only true for the south of England as in North England, Scotland, Wales, Cornwall and NI it does contain ethanol due to ‘technical supply reasons’ as quoted on their website
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I'll take any fuel at the moment.
Re: E10 Petrol - StreetFzr - 28-09-21
I'll take any fuel at the moment.
Plenty up here in Durham mate!
Re: E10 Petrol - darrsi - 29-09-21
(28-09-21, 11:19 PM)StreetFzr link Wrote: I'll take any fuel at the moment.
Plenty up here in Durham mate!
Bit the bullet and queued for 90mins this morning.
The queue didn't look bad at all, maybe 15 vehicles in front of me, although they were coming from both sides of the road.
But i' m still puzzled as to why it took so long, as there were 2 diesel pumps working and the other 2 pumps had a choice of different fuels?
Had to be done though.
Re: E10 Petrol - StreetFzr - 30-09-21
(29-09-21, 12:45 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=StreetFzr link=topic=26996.msg327318#msg327318 date=1632867565]
I'll take any fuel at the moment.
Plenty up here in Durham mate!
Bit the bullet and queued for 90mins this morning.
The queue didn't look bad at all, maybe 15 vehicles in front of me, although they were coming from both sides of the road.
But i' m still puzzled as to why it took so long, as there were 2 diesel pumps working and the other 2 pumps had a choice of different fuels?
Had to be done though.
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If you need it mate then you’d have to endure it, it’s the panic idiots who have caused all this problem filling up when they’d usually barely use a tennner a week!!!
Re: E10 Petrol - darrsi - 30-09-21
(30-09-21, 03:08 PM)StreetFzr link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=26996.msg327321#msg327321 date=1632915918]
[quote author=StreetFzr link=topic=26996.msg327318#msg327318 date=1632867565]
I'll take any fuel at the moment.
Plenty up here in Durham mate!
Bit the bullet and queued for 90mins this morning.
The queue didn't look bad at all, maybe 15 vehicles in front of me, although they were coming from both sides of the road.
But i' m still puzzled as to why it took so long, as there were 2 diesel pumps working and the other 2 pumps had a choice of different fuels?
Had to be done though.
[/quote]
If you need it mate then you’d have to endure it, it’s the panic idiots who have caused all this problem filling up when they’d usually barely use a tennner a week!!!
[/quote]
I just went past the queue at the same garage and it was a bit deceiving, as there were more like 20 to 25 vehicles so that does explain the 90min wait.
Re: E10 Petrol - StreetFzr - 30-09-21
(30-09-21, 05:58 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=StreetFzr link=topic=26996.msg327333#msg327333 date=1633010939]
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=26996.msg327321#msg327321 date=1632915918]
[quote author=StreetFzr link=topic=26996.msg327318#msg327318 date=1632867565]
I'll take any fuel at the moment.
Plenty up here in Durham mate!
Bit the bullet and queued for 90mins this morning.
The queue didn't look bad at all, maybe 15 vehicles in front of me, although they were coming from both sides of the road.
But i' m still puzzled as to why it took so long, as there were 2 diesel pumps working and the other 2 pumps had a choice of different fuels?
Had to be done though.
[/quote]
If you need it mate then you’d have to endure it, it’s the panic idiots who have caused all this problem filling up when they’d usually barely use a tennner a week!!!
[/quote]
I just went past the queue at the same garage and it was a bit deceiving, as there were more like 20 to 25 vehicles so that does explain the 90min wait.
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I’d be sick waiting that long for fuel, luckily we don’t have that problem!!
Incase anyone is interested, I had an email from esso regarding where they supply ethanol free fuel and they verified it was only Devon, Cornwall, North West England, Scotland, and Teesside that has ethanol in both their Supreme 97 or 99 Ron fuel. The rest is ethanol free.
They also said the majority of their synergy 95 petrol is still actually e5 and that they have no intention of adding ethanol to their 97/ 99 supreme fuel in any of the places that already receive the ethanol free fuel.
I’ve included a screenshot of their reply too.
Seems esso will be my go to station for now then!!!
Re: E10 Petrol - darrsi - 01-10-21
I just went past a queue near where I live which had over 100 vehicles in it.
But more importantly.....the garage wasn't even open.
Re: E10 Petrol - robbo - 01-10-21
M&P have a product called Putoline E10 Fuel Fighter. Price is £13.63 and would treat 250 litres of petrol.(25 ml per 25 litres), container holds 250ml. I’ll no doubt carry some of this as a precaution, so that should you ever find a petrol station that’s only got E10, it won’t be a drama.