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Gen. 2 wheels in a Gen.1? - ProdigalSon - 24-07-18
Sorry if this has been asked before I did try doing a search but couldn't find the answer, are the 5 spoke wheels from the Gen. 2 a direct fit on a Gen.1 bike or do they need modifying in any way, poncy I know but I prefer the look of the 5 spoke wheels.
Thanks for any help.
Re: Gen. 2 wheels in a Gen.1? - slimwilly - 31-07-18
Probably no chance of them fitting, I rekon
Re: Gen. 2 wheels in a Gen.1? - devilsyam - 31-07-18
beem there done that
Re: Gen. 2 wheels in a Gen.1? - ProdigalSon - 31-07-18
(31-07-18, 08:14 PM)devilsyam link Wrote: beem there done thatWould you care to enlighten me as to how it went?
Re: Gen. 2 wheels in a Gen.1? - devilsyam - 31-07-18
round n round lol front is easy rear bit more involved
option 1 use a custom disc which takes for ever to get made
option 2 early r6 rear caliper modded to take a tourque arm and mounted in verted
Re: Gen. 2 wheels in a Gen.1? - devilsyam - 31-07-18
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Re: Gen. 2 wheels in a Gen.1? - devilsyam - 31-07-18
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Re: Gen. 2 wheels in a Gen.1? - ProdigalSon - 31-07-18
(31-07-18, 08:28 PM)devilsyam link Wrote:Thanks for that, getting things machined isn't a great problem as a personal friend of mine has his own engineering business so possibly easier to go with the R6 rear caliper option than a different disc, thanks for that.
Re: Gen. 2 wheels in a Gen.1? - NorthWestern - 31-07-18
You could take a look at my post outlining how I fit an r1 rear. If you can get stuff machined and a small amount of tig welding it's pretty straight forward. Plus at the end of it you have a factory looking blue spot r1 caliper, unmodified wheel/disc and no torque arm for a clean look.
Should be same as fitting a gen2 wheel essentially
Re: Gen. 2 wheels in a Gen.1? - devilsyam - 01-08-18
There we arm another option if you don't mind welding
Re: Gen. 2 wheels in a Gen.1? - Red Ceri - 02-08-18
I think you need to consider the disc diameter on the front wheel if you are using the Gen1 forks, as the Gen1 Discs have 6 bolt fixing and 298mm Diameter vs 5 bolt on Gen2 and 310/320mm Diameter discs as standard. So the caliper won't be allow the larger discs of the Gen2.
Re: Gen. 2 wheels in a Gen.1? - ProdigalSon - 02-08-18
(02-08-18, 11:56 AM)Red Ceri link Wrote: I think you need to consider the disc diameter on the front wheel if you are using the Gen1 forks, as the Gen1 Discs have 6 bolt fixing and 298mm Diameter vs 5 bolt on Gen2 and 310/320mm Diameter discs as standard. So the caliper won't be allow the larger discs of the Gen2.
Yes I was hoping to keep the original forks as personally I don't find anything wrong with them, sounds like this could get expensive!
Re: Gen. 2 wheels in a Gen.1? - Hugh Mungus - 03-08-18
Might be cheaper to buy a new bike!
Re: Gen. 2 wheels in a Gen.1? - Red Ceri - 04-08-18
(02-08-18, 06:57 PM)ProdigalSon link Wrote: [quote author=Red Ceri link=topic=24367.msg282644#msg282644 date=1533207396]
I think you need to consider the disc diameter on the front wheel if you are using the Gen1 forks, as the Gen1 Discs have 6 bolt fixing and 298mm Diameter vs 5 bolt on Gen2 and 310/320mm Diameter discs as standard. So the caliper won't be allow the larger discs of the Gen2.
Yes I was hoping to keep the original forks as personally I don't find anything wrong with them, sounds like this could get expensive!
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I'm running 99 R1 forks and ended up sourcing caliper spacers from a company in the US, they were fairly expensive at £170 but allows me to run 230mm disc.
I spoke a few UK companies that used to make the spacers but none were willing to machine anymore.
Re: Gen. 2 wheels in a Gen.1? - Hugh Mungus - 04-08-18
This is the problem with one off stuff. I found it very difficult to get any engineering firm to make up any bits I needed. They're either too busy or just not interested. I did find one firm but they're long gone now.
Re: Gen. 2 wheels in a Gen.1? - ProdigalSon - 04-08-18
I'm fortunate in so much as a friend has a small engineering company so all may not be lost with the original forks, I hadn't thought of spacers, I'm just having difficulty reconciling myself with the prices people are asking for second hand wheels. :eek
Re: Gen. 2 wheels in a Gen.1? - Falcon 269 - 05-08-18
(02-08-18, 06:57 PM)ProdigalSon link Wrote: Yes I was hoping to keep the original forks as personally I don't find anything wrong with them, sounds like this could get expensive!There's a saying, "the best you've had is the best you know".
It's very true of many things but on bikes, especially so of suspension. Until you've ridden a Gen 1 with decent fork mods and a better shock, you have little idea of what you're missing in terms of handling, road-holding and ride quality.
Given a choice between dropping time and several hundred pounds into fitting 5-spoke wheels for cosmetic reasons versus putting that into improving the suspension, I know where my cash would go.
Re: Gen. 2 wheels in a Gen.1? - ProdigalSon - 05-08-18
(05-08-18, 05:45 AM)Falcon 269 link Wrote: [quote author=ProdigalSon link=topic=24367.msg282666#msg282666 date=1533232624]There's a saying, "the best you've had is the best you know".
Yes I was hoping to keep the original forks as personally I don't find anything wrong with them, sounds like this could get expensive!
It's very true of many things but on bikes, especially so of suspension. Until you've ridden a Gen 1 with decent fork mods and a better shock, you have little idea of what you're missing in terms of handling, road-holding and ride quality.
Given a choice between dropping time and several hundred pounds into fitting 5-spoke wheels for cosmetic reasons versus putting that into improving the suspension, I know where my cash would go.
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Mike I hear where you're coming from, I fitted a BMW S1000RR rear shock to the bike not long after I got it and I find that far better than the stock one, I'm not sure if they are stock internals in the front forks but I don't have much of an issue with those I set them up how I wanted them and I've never felt that I've had a problem with them. I like the look of the 5 spoke wheels but weighing up the cost of the wheels, refurbishing them and the issues re discs I may give up on the idea as if I'm still gainfully employed this time next year I would love to go back to an Aprilia V4 Tuono. :lol
Re: Gen. 2 wheels in a Gen.1? - devilsyam - 05-08-18
you use the r6 discs