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Changing Engine Oil - MikeBike - 20-03-18
Hello Guys.
I wish to change the Engine Oil.
I know the manual says it takes about 3,5 litres of oil. How do you guys do not to overfill the oil reservoir? I haven´t any tools to pump it out if it has too much.
How do you do it? Do you fill for example with 3 litres, check the level and add up and check again the level untill it has the right amount?
Thanks
Miguel
FZS600 1998-1999
Re: Changing Engine Oil - Jamieg285 - 20-03-18
Buy a cheap measuring jug, like you would use in the kitchen - typically 1ltr in size.
Measure the oil as it goes in. If you put in the amount is says in the manual then you shouldn't overfill. If you are worried, put a bit less in and then check the levels as you add a bit more.
Re: Changing Engine Oil - darrsi - 20-03-18
Think you'll find it says 2.5 litres, or around 2.7 litres if you change the oil filter as well.
Empty old oil then put sump plug in.
Do not overtighten it, there really is no need to.
With bike on centre stand on level ground you can start by putting in exactly 2.5 litres.
Then start the bike and let it run for a minute.
Switch off the engine, then keep your eye on the window on the bottom right of the sump.
Wait for the oil to settle for a couple of minutes and that will be your level.
On the casing next to the window there is a lower and upper level marking, you want it about two thirds up between the markings.
If you need to add more add a tiny bit at a time and repeat the above process until you get it where you want it.
Try not to overfill it though or it can cause other issues.
Re: Changing Engine Oil - mtread - 20-03-18
Only bit I would add is that you might want to replace the sump plug washer when you put it back in
Re: Changing Engine Oil - fazersharp - 20-03-18
(20-03-18, 05:29 PM)darrsi link Wrote: If you need to add more add a tiny bit at a time and repeat the above process until you get it where you want it.I usually find that about an egg cup full extra at a time is all it needs
Re: Changing Engine Oil - VNA - 20-03-18
Yup you can meaure out, and measure in.
Or Most oil tubs have rough markings on the side.
So once I've drained the oil and changed the filter, using a funnel I'll pour in the oil till I've put a good couple litres in, then bit by bit till I cover the bottom marker in the window. Start bike and run for half a minute to fill the filter. Quickly top up bit by bit till I've clearly covered that bottom mark again. The bike now has enougth oil to run safely.
However it's now got cold oil all round the engine, that'll take time to all drain into the sump. So whether I take it for a run or not straight after the oil change, I'll let it sit overnight on the centre stand, all oil will be in the sump come morning, and then I'll top up to the max mark - particulary so as the gen1 thous like it up to the upper mark.
Re: Changing Engine Oil - YamFazFan - 20-03-18
(20-03-18, 06:42 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: I usually find that about an egg cup full extra at a time is all it needs
Pigeon or ostrich?
Re: Changing Engine Oil - darrsi - 20-03-18
My sump window is useless now, can't see anything through it at all, so with a new filter on i just put in 2.7 litres and it seems to be fine.
Good idea measuring what comes out first though.
Only done that once before when i got the bike, did a change and pulled FOUR litres out of it. :eek
Re: Changing Engine Oil - fazersharp - 20-03-18
Chicken.
For me there is no point in measuring what comes out because most of it is all over my hands-downpipes-driveway.
Re: Changing Engine Oil - darrsi - 21-03-18
(20-03-18, 11:44 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: Chicken.
For me there is no point in measuring what comes out because most of it is all over my hands-downpipes-driveway.
It could certainly be a pointer for me though, as the window may as well not be there.
I even tried deliberately over filling it to make sure but I there was no oil movement in the window at all, so I just emptied it out again, measured the right amount then lobbed it back in.
If I had any type of oil leak it would become a problem, but I don't even need to top up between changes so it all seems absolutely fine and if there ever was something I hadn't spotted then that's what the oil light is for. I would know if there was a leak though as my garage floor would tell me.
Re: Changing Engine Oil - fazersharp - 21-03-18
Strange how the glass has gone funny, maybe its that 99p oil you use off ebay :pokefun :lol
I usually make a little plastic shoot to guide the oil over the horizontal pipe section but that doesn't leave enough room for my fingers to remove the plug which leads me to dropping it in the bucket of oil and having to fish it out.
Re: Changing Engine Oil - darrsi - 21-03-18
(21-03-18, 02:35 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: Strange how the glass has gone funny, maybe its that 99p oil you use off ebay :pokefun :lol
I usually make a little plastic shoot to guide the oil over the horizontal pipe section but that doesn't leave enough room for my fingers to remove the plug which leads me to dropping it in the bucket of oil and having to fish it out.
Nowt wrong with the oil I was the guinea pig for, and i'll certainly be using it again. :thumbup
Re: Changing Engine Oil - BBROWN1664 - 21-03-18
(21-03-18, 10:28 AM)darrsi link Wrote: I even tried deliberately over filling it to make sure but I there was no oil movement in the window at all, so I just emptied it out again, measured the right amount then lobbed it back in.
Maybe there was too much in there before hand. Have you tried looking at the oil glass when the engine had ben drained to see the difference :pokefun
Re: Changing Engine Oil - celticdog - 21-03-18
(21-03-18, 05:56 PM)BBROWN1664 link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=23898.msg277092#msg277092 date=1521624531]
I even tried deliberately over filling it to make sure but I there was no oil movement in the window at all, so I just emptied it out again, measured the right amount then lobbed it back in.
Maybe there was too much in there before hand. Have you tried looking at the oil glass when the engine had ben drained to see the difference :pokefun
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Maybe it needs an egg cup full of Windolene?
Re: Changing Engine Oil - Nemesis - 21-03-18
Hey up, just bought a sump plug washer does it matter which way it goes on? Noticed it not same both sides
Re: Changing Engine Oil - fazersharp - 21-03-18
(21-03-18, 06:41 PM)celticdog link Wrote: [quote author=BBROWN1664 link=topic=23898.msg277104#msg277104 date=1521651384]
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=23898.msg277092#msg277092 date=1521624531]
I even tried deliberately over filling it to make sure but I there was no oil movement in the window at all, so I just emptied it out again, measured the right amount then lobbed it back in.
Maybe there was too much in there before hand. Have you tried looking at the oil glass when the engine had ben drained to see the difference :pokefun
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Maybe it needs an egg cup full of Windolene?
[/quote] :rollin
Re: Changing Engine Oil - fazersharp - 21-03-18
(21-03-18, 07:04 PM)Nemesis link Wrote: Hey up, just bought a sump plug washer does it matter which way it goes on? Noticed it not same both sidesI have actually always thought that too, have always managed to study the one still attached to the bolt to put the new on on the same way
Re: Changing Engine Oil - Trebus - 21-03-18
The bonded seals or Dowty washers are a good alternative and mean you can re-use them. Copper washers an be annealed and re-used too
Re: Changing Engine Oil - darrsi - 21-03-18
(21-03-18, 05:56 PM)BBROWN1664 link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=23898.msg277092#msg277092 date=1521624531]
I even tried deliberately over filling it to make sure but I there was no oil movement in the window at all, so I just emptied it out again, measured the right amount then lobbed it back in.
Maybe there was too much in there before hand. Have you tried looking at the oil glass when the engine had ben drained to see the difference :pokefun
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Nah, it was bugging me so i spent quite a while doing things a bit at a time trying to get something to show up in the window, but it just didn’t. I drained it 3 times that day i think, but the window stayed the same.
Now i just warm the bike up so the oil drains more freely, let it do it’s thing, then stick 2.7 litres in after the new filter is on and the job’s a good’un.
Still don’t get why the have that little window within a window either, what’s all that about?
Re: Changing Engine Oil - Nemesis - 21-03-18
Yeah that was my plan fazersharp, just hoping it's got the right type on at the moment and the right way, Lol